Sacha and Ish

The Not So Breakfast Show

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Listen, laugh and learn as we share our latest thoughts about staying relevant, contemporary leadership and doing life right. Ish Cheyne is the Head of Fitness in New Zealand for global fitness juggernaut Les Mills. Sacha Coburn is the COO of Coffee Culture, a leading group of boutique coffee shops, and the co-founder of The Company You Keep.co.nz.

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Sacha and Ish

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Latest episode

Nov 1, 2026

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Episodes

Have We All Gone a Bit Soft? The Truth About Resilience 01.11.2026

Say Hello Episode 279 In this episode, Ish and Sacha explore whether we've become less resilient or simply got too comfortable avoiding discomfort. They kick around the concept of lawnmower leadership, when well-meaning leaders (and parents) rush ahead, removing challenges and smoothing the path for others. It may come from a good place, but when we remove every obstacle, we also take away th...

The Barcelona comedown - behind the scenes of how we did it 25.10.2026

Say Hello Episode 278 Fresh from Barcelona, Ish and Sacha take us behind the scenes of their recent Les Mills International conference sessions, unpacking how they shaped the presentations into an experience that had people laughing, learning, getting uncomfortable and singing their hearts out. At the centre of it all is a surprisingly simple six-grid structure: an opening, three key points, an in...

The Barcelona Primer 04.10.2026

Say Hello Episode 277 This episode is a behind-the-scenes primer for the Les Mills United summit in Barcelona.  Ish and Sacha share how their own Les Mills journeys started in some fairly unlikely places, what they’ll be talking about when they get there, and why mental strength and honest self-review might be two of the most useful muscles we can build right now. Plus a couple of ester eggs, like...

High Performance, Bad Behaviour: Where Do You Draw the Line? 27.09.2026

Say Hello Episode 276 What do you do when someone is smashing every target… while making everyone around them quietly consider a career change? This week, Ish and Sacha get into the awkward world of difficult high performers: the rock stars, sales guns and thoroughbreds who deliver brilliant results but don't always play nicely with others. When is "difficult" actually a valuable ch...

AI Was Supposed to Save Us Time. So Where Did It Go? 20.09.2026

Say Hello Episode 275 Ish and Sacha dig into the slightly uncomfortable reality of AI and productivity: technology keeps promising to save us time, but humans are remarkably talented at immediately filling that time with more stuff. From AI-generated reports nobody really needs, to 15-page emails nobody wants to read, they explore the difference between using AI to make work better and simply usin...

What Ted Lasso Gets Right About Leadership 13.09.2026

Say Hello Episode 274 What do Ted Lasso, Korean skincare, a runaway car and being unexpectedly told you’re “foxy” have in common? More than you’d think, apparently. After Ish narrowly avoids watching his car disappear backwards down his death-trap driveway, he and Sacha get into why Ted Lasso has become such a compelling picture of leadership. Not because Ted has everything sorted, but because he...

Do You Really Need to Find Your Why? 06.09.2026

Say Hello Episode 273 Do you know your why? Your purpose? The deep, meaningful reason you leap out of bed every morning ready to change the world? No? Excellent. You may be absolutely fine. This week, Sacha takes aim at Simon Sinek and the whole “find your why” idea or at least the pressure that comes with it. Do we all really have one big purpose we’re supposed to uncover, or is that just another...

Why Smart People Still Make Dumb Decisions 30.08.2026

Say Hello Episode 272 What happens when being “the smart one” becomes part of your identity? Apparently, you get very good at constructing brilliant arguments for ideas that may still be completely terrible. This week, Ish and Sacha get into the uncomfortable gap between intelligence and good judgement. There’s ego, groupthink, sunk costs, Harvard-sized imposter syndrome, a $200 million floating m...

Critical Ignoring: The Skill Your Attention Is Begging For 23.08.2026

Say Hello Episode 271 Ish arrives with a voice that sounds like it’s been dragged through gravel, but fortunately it’s not illness; it’s karaoke. Ten songs, a bit of Blues Brothers, and a final assault on Sweet Child O’ Mine will apparently do that to a man. Once the vocal cords have been accounted for, we get into something most of us are probably terrible at: critical ignoring. Because between S...

Congratulations, You’re the Manager. Sorry About Your Life. 16.08.2026

Say Hello Episode 270 This episode is about one of the most common promotion traps at work: taking the person who is brilliant at doing the job and assuming they’ll naturally be brilliant at leading everyone else who does it. Ish and Sacha unpack why technical excellence and leadership ability are two very different things, why promotion has become the default way organisations reward high perform...

Are You in a Work Situationship? 09.08.2026

Say Hello Episode 269 Some people stay in a job for years. That doesn’t necessarily mean they’re committed. They might just be comfortable, financially trapped, quietly checking Seek at lunchtime, or waiting for someone else to make the first move. In this episode, Ish and Sacha ask whether you and your employer are actually committed to each other, or whether you’re in a full-blown work situation...

Five Things Every Leader Should Know About Their Team 02.08.2026

Say Hello Episode 268 In this episode, Ish and Sacha explore five things every leader should know about the people in their team, beyond names, roles and coffee orders. They unpack why motivation is never one-size-fits-all, how leaders can unknowingly drain people, and why “just tell me straight” often means “tell me promptly, but please don’t remove all traces of kindness.” The conversation also...

Excellence Should Create Growth, Not Entrapment 26.07.2026

Say Hello Episode 267 Being good at your job is meant to be a good thing. Until everyone notices, starts sending everything your way, and your reward for being reliable is a to-do list that now requires its own project manager. In this episode, Ish and Sacha unpack the curse of being the capable one — why high performers get overloaded, why leaders keep defaulting to the same safe pair of hands, a...

Rubik’s Cubes, Bougie Birthday Cakes and Three Very Useful Envelopes 19.07.2026

Say Hello Episode 266 What do Rubik’s Cubes, children’s birthday cakes, startup pitch decks and a CEO with three envelopes have in common? Quite a lot, apparently. In this episode, Ish uses his hard-earned Rubik’s Cube mastery to explore how leaders solve problems. Sometimes we learn the process. Sometimes we copy someone else’s steps. Sometimes we outsource the whole thing. And sometimes we quiet...

Terrible Leadership Advice 05.07.2026

Send us Fan Mail Episode 265 In this episode, Ish and Sacha unpack some of the worst leadership advice that often gets dressed up as wisdom. They start with the classic “don’t bring me problems, bring me solutions” and explore why that can shut down useful thinking if people haven’t properly defined the problem first. From there, they take aim at advice like “treat everyone the same,” “leave your...

What Your Boss Is Really Saying 28.06.2026

Send us Fan Mail Episode 264 Ever sat in a meeting and heard a very vague, slightly passive-aggressive comment float across the room… then spent the next ten minutes wondering, “Was that aimed at me?” Same! In this episode, Ish and Sacha unpack the weird little phrases we use at work to soften, dodge, delay, delegate, or quietly scream into the void. From “let’s circle back” to “as per my last ema...

Friends, Friction, and the Fine Art of Collaboration 21.06.2026

Send us Fan Mail Episode 263 In this episode, Ish and Sacha unpack the joy and occasional lumpiness of working with people who have different styles to your own. The conversation comes from real life, as they have recently been building a project together and noticing the little differences in how they think, plan, create, communicate, and get things over the line.  They talk about the difference...

Go Slow to Go Fast: Better Thinking at Work 14.06.2026

Send us Fan Mail Episode 262 Ever had one of those moments where your mouth starts speaking before your brain has properly joined the meeting? Ish has. And, to be fair, most of us have. Especially when being quick, responsive, and “good in the moment” is part of what people value us for. In this episode, Ish and Sacha get into fast brains, slow brains, gut instinct, airport security rage, AI-gener...

How to Stop Sounding Vague at Work 24.05.2026

Send us Fan Mail Episode 261: How to Stop Sounding Vague at Work Ish and Sacha talk about how to stop sounding vague at work and start communicating with more intention, confidence, and cut-through. They explore why people waffle, why fear makes us soften our opinions, and why “I was kind of thinking maybe…” rarely helps anyone make a good decision. Ish introduces practical ways to prepare before...

Are you OK? The AI check-in 10.05.2026

Send us Fan Mail Join us on Skool AI is coming in hot from every angle, at every speed. This week Ish and Sacha stop pretending they haven't noticed and have a proper chat about it. Are we thriving? Panicking? Accidentally writing back to Copilot like it's a colleague? (Yes. Yes we are.) From bullet trains in Tokyo to dancing cavoodles doing the Thriller, this is your weekly reminder tha...

MWM:The Quietest Power Move in Presenting 05.05.2026

Send us Fan Mail Join us on Skool Fresh off a full day of back-to-back presenting, Sacha shares the quiet technique that stopped an event organiser in their tracks. It's not about projecting confidence. It's not about owning the room. It's about inviting people into yours. Sacha calls it laying a virtual table,  an openness, a conversational ease, a gentle "come, join me"...

Smile, Remember Names, Solve the Crime 03.05.2026

Send us Fan Mail Join us on Skool   Episode 259 What if the most important career training you ever got was standing behind a reception desk? In this episode, Ish and Sacha dig into why customer service isn't just a job, it's a masterclass in human psychology, relationship building, and career development. Ish breaks down a recent training session he ran for a reception team, where he fl...

Join us on Skool 28.04.2026

Send us Fan Mail  Join our 30 Minute Presenter community on Skool  https://www.skool.com/30-minute-presenter-5848/about See you there!

Work Ethic: Your Greatest Strength… or Your Biggest Trap? 26.04.2026

Send us Fan Mail Join us on Skool Topic:  Work Ethic: Your Greatest Strength… or Your Biggest Trap?  We all love to say we’ve got a strong work ethic. It sounds impressive. It feels right. It’s basically a personality trait at this point. But… what if that “great work ethic” is actually working against you? In this episode, we get into the messy middle between working hard and working smart —and w...

The First 5 Minutes That Make or Break Your Presentation 19.04.2026

Send us Fan Mail Join us on Skool Episode 257: The First 5 Minutes That Make or Break Your Presentation We’re recording early, with Sacha dialling in at 6am in full Hugh Hefner-style pyjamas ahead of a big trip to Mexico  In classic Sacha fashion, preparation has gone deep… including discovering that Mexico City sits at 2,200+ metres above sea level (a slight difference from Queenstown 😅). So if...

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