Jack Shitama

The Non-Anxious Leader Podcast

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The Non-Anxious Leader Podcast uses a family systems theory approach to increase your spiritual, emotional and physical well-being so you can be the best leader possible. Each episode explores research and practical tips to help you be a personal and professional non-anxious presence.

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Jack Shitama

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Religion

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www.thenonanxiousleader.com

Latest episode

Jul 6, 2026

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Episodes

Episode 39: Interview with Bill Selby, Family Systems Expert (Part 1 of 3) 07.10.2019

Bill Selby is the founder of the Center for Pastoral Effectiveness of the Rockies. He has been training clergy in how to be a non-anxious leader since 1999. This is part one of a three part interview. In today's segment, Bill shares the importance of staying connected, process and content, and identifying healthy leaders. Subscribe to my weekly  ⁠Two for Tuesday⁠  emails.

Episode 38: Spiral Dynamics, Richard Rohr and the Problem We Face 30.09.2019

Spiral dynamics is a model that helps us understand both human and societal development. The challenge of the 21st century is finding unity in the midst of ever-growing diversity. Understanding family systems can help. Show Notes: Stages of Social Development: The Cultural Dynamics that Spark Violence, Spread Prosperity, and Shape Globalization by Don Edward Beck, Ph. D. The Liturgists Podcast, Ep...

Episode 37: Parent is a Noun (and How that Applies to Leadership) 23.09.2019

The word "parenting" first appeared in the late 1950's. Developmental psychologist Alison Gopnik maintains that parenting is a bad idea. Parent is a noun, not a verb. This has important implications for leaders who want to help others be their best. Show Notes: Alison Gopnik’s Advice to Parents: Stop Parenting! by Peter Gray, Ph. D., Psychology Today. What Kind Of Parent Are You: Carpenter Or Gard...

Episode 36: The Illusion of Control (and Why It Matters) 16.09.2019

We sometimes think we have more control than we do. At other times we underestimate the amount of control we have. Knowing the difference is an important leadership competency. Show Notes: Choiceology: Season 4 Episode 1 Keeping the illusion of control under control: Ceilings, floors, and imperfect calibration by Francescas Gino, Zachariah Sharek and Don Moore Subscribe to my weekly  ⁠Two for Tues...

Episode 35: Sabotage and Empathy (What Works and What Doesn't) 09.09.2019

Being able to recognize and respond effectively to emotional sabotage is essential for leading change. Empathy is good, except when it's not. This episode helps to unpack the difference. Show Notes: The following episodes are helpful in further understanding how to respond to sabotage: Episode 19: Self-Regulation–the Key to Being a Non-Anxious Presence Episode 26: How to Handle It When You Are Anx...

Episode 34: How the Emotionally Dependent Hold Us Hostage 02.09.2019

Emotionally dependent people require others to make them feel loved and validated. Giving in to their demands holds us hostage. Understanding how this works, as well as how self-differentiation is a way forward is an essential leadership skill. Show Notes: Are You Too Emotionally Dependent on Your Partner? by Leon F. Selzer Ph. D. Subscribe to my weekly  ⁠Two for Tuesday⁠  emails.

Episode 33: Xenophobia and Self-Differentiation 26.08.2019

This episode is a bit personal. Two recent occurrences reminded me that I'm different. The rise of xenophobia is a global phenomenon. Responding in self-differentiated ways to those who emphasize differences in negative ways is the best chance we have to build a more civil and hope-filled world. Show Notes: Does Fear Motivate Workers — or Make Things Worse? from KNOWLEDGE@WHARTON Fear and Hopi...

Episode 32: Why You Get Triangled (and How to Deal with It) 19.08.2019

The emotional triangle is the most stable form of human relationship. This is because most of the time we are not able to appropriately deal with tension or stress in a two-person relationship. This episode gives examples of triangles, explains how they are formed and maintained, and shows you how to deal with being triangled. Show Notes: Episode 19: Self-Regulation--The Key to Being a Non-Anxious...

Episode 31: All Change Is Loss 12.08.2019

"People aren't afraid of change, they're afraid of loss (Sandy Shugart)." Understanding this can help leaders show people how to face the pain of loss directly. This develops strength and results in growth. Subscribe to my weekly  ⁠Two for Tuesday⁠  emails.

Episode 30: Anxiety Is Poison (Nobody Gets the Problem They Can Handle) 05.08.2019

The difference between a challenge and a problem is how we handle it. Anxiety, our own and that of others, is the key factor. Remaining a non-anxious presence will help us and those we lead to rise up to challenges and not make them problems. Subscribe to my weekly  ⁠Two for Tuesday⁠  emails.

Episode 29: Three Ways a Leader Must Be Flexible 29.07.2019

This episode is an example of why it's important to be flexible. My personal travels and a case of stupidity caused it to drop a day late. Here's what I learned from it, and how it can help you. Show Notes: Episode 23: Musings from Thailand on Self-Differentiation Stewart Butterfield's bio Subscribe to my weekly  ⁠Two for Tuesday⁠  emails.

Episode 28: How to Take a Leadership Stand on Controversial Issues (including a Family Systems take on Donald Trump's Leadership Style) 22.07.2019

As a leader, people want to know where you stand. Learning how to do this in a healthy way creates the possibility for conversations that can lead to effective change. Show Notes: Gun Reform: Speaking Truth to Bullshit, Practicing Civility, and Effecting Change by Brene Brown Trump's Chaos Theory by Lance Morrow What’s Wrong with Donald Trump’s Chaos Theory of Power? by Michael A. Genovese Sub...

Episode 27: How to Stand up for Yourself 15.07.2019

The healthy way to stand up for yourself is to take a non-anxious emotional stand. Avoid reactivity by not arguing and not agreeing. Understanding family systems theory will help you do this. Show notes: Generation to Generation: Family Process in Church and Synagogue by Edwin Friedman Subscribe to my weekly  ⁠Two for Tuesday⁠  emails.

Episode 26: How to Handle It When You Are Anxiously Attacked 08.07.2019

Remaining a non-anxious presence when someone unleashes their anxiety on you is a challenge. The best response is don't argue, don't agree. This requires the ability to self-regulate your own anxiety. This episode explores the best way to do this. Show Notes: Glossary of Family Systems Terms from The Center for Family Systems Theory of Western New York Triggers: Creating Behavior That Last...

Episode 25: The Positive Consequences of Pain 01.07.2019

Pain is not something to be avoided. It is a part of life and can help us grow. Research on physical pain shows that there can be positive consequences. The same is true for emotional pain.  Show Notes: The Positive Consequences of Pain: A Biopsychosocial Approach by Brock Bastian, Jolanda Jetten, Matthew J. Hornsey and Siri Leknes Subscribe to my weekly  ⁠Two for Tuesday⁠  emails.

Episode 24: The Top Five Regrets of the Dying (and How to Avoid Them) 24.06.2019

On our deathbed, most of our regrets will be things we left undone. Four of the top five are so-called regrets of inaction. Looking at them from a family systems perspective will help to avoid them. Show Notes: This article from Cornell summarizes Tom Gilovich's work on regret. The Top Five Regrets of the Dying: A Life Transformed by the Dearly Departed by Bronnie Ware Subscribe to my weekly ...

Episode 23: Musings from Thailand on Self-Differentiation 17.06.2019

Food is a proxy for culture, and culture is a system with its own set of unwritten rules that can create surrounding togetherness pressure. Getting outside of our own culture can help us to better self-differentiate. Show notes: Here is a recipe using turmeric marinated tofu . The egg I described in this episode is called a Century Egg . Subscribe to my weekly  ⁠Two for Tuesday⁠  emails.

Episode 22: The Secret of Success 03.06.2019

The overnight success is a myth, or at best a rarity. The rest of us have to work at it. Regardless of what you do, there is a proven approach to making an impact. Show Notes: Domino Chain Reaction , a YouTube video by Stephen Morris. It's only 2-1/2 minutes, and well worth watching. The ONE Thing: The Surprisingly Simple Truth behind Extraordinary Results by Gary Keller and Jay Papasan Drip b...

Episode 21: Difficult Conversations Part 2-How to Be a Non-Anxious Presence 27.05.2019

Engaging in a difficult conversation takes preparation to enable one to be a non-anxious presence. These techniques will help you to prepare, get started and remain a non-anxious presence. Show Notes: Difficult Conversations: How to Discuss What Matters Most by Douglas Stone, Bruce Patton, Sheila Heen and Roger Fisher Subscribe to my weekly  ⁠Two for Tuesday⁠  emails.

Episode 20: Difficult Conversations Part 1: What's Going On in Us? 20.05.2019

There are three potential conversations that go on in our heads when we are having a difficult conversations: What happened, feelings and identity. Understanding how these work and what to do about them is essential to being a non-anxious presence in challenging interactions. Show Notes: This podcasts references material from Difficult Conversations: How to Discuss What Matters Most by Douglas Sto...

Episode 19: Self-Regulation--the Key to Being a Non-Anxious Presence 13.05.2019

Remaining a non-anxious presence, especially in anxious situations, is the key to effective leadership. This is hard to do. You will feel anxious inside. Learning to regulate your own anxiety can help you be your most effective. Subscribe to my weekly  ⁠Two for Tuesday⁠  emails.

Episode 18: Pain, the Quick-Fix, Crisis, and Why It's a Great Time to Be a United Methodist 06.05.2019

In family systems theory, pain is an opportunity for growth. Our culture promotes pain avoidance and seeking the quick fix. Sometimes the only way to find growth is through a crisis. Subscribe to my weekly  ⁠Two for Tuesday⁠  emails.

Episode 17: Soap, Innovation and Emergent Strategy 29.04.2019

Very few organizations are able to sustain effectiveness over the long haul. It requires a balance between planning and adapting to changing circumstances, both of which are needed for innovation and execution. Procter and Gamble is an example of a company that has been able to change with the times. Show Notes: This article from the American Chemical Society documents P&G's history and ho...

Episode 16: A Family Systems Perspective on Brene Brown's Anatomy of Trust 22.04.2019

Brene Brown uses the acronym "BRAVING" to describe how to build trust in relationships. Trust is key to effective leadership. Understanding Brown's take from a family systems perspective is helpful in learning to be a non-anxious presence. Show Notes: Brene Brown's talk on the Anatomy of Trust The SPEED of TRUST: The One Thing that Changes Everything , by Stephen M.R. Covey Subsc...

Episode 15: Messy Desks vs. Clean Desks (and Why It Matters) 15.04.2019

Is a messy desk or clean desk better for productivity and creativity? The answers might surprise you. The results from different studies help us to understand, from a family systems perspective, how we can help the team we work with do their best work. Show Notes: Why Google Encourages Having a Messy Desk , from Business Insider Science Explains What the State of Your Desk Says About You , from Fa...

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