Dr. Gretchen Hawley PT, DPT, MSCS
The MSing Link
Do you have Multiple Sclerosis and have goals of improving your mobility, energy, and motivation? On this show, you’ll learn MS-specific exercises and symptom management strategies to help you gain control over your life with MS. I also bring in other MS Experts in the healthcare industry to share their insights and advice so you’ll be armed with research-driven education. You’ll leave each episode feeling empowered and ready to take action!
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Dr. Gretchen Hawley PT, DPT, MSCS
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Jul 8, 2026
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Episodes
142. Knee Kissing 101: Why is It Happening & What To Do About It 23.08.2023 24:20
I'm super excited because today is going to be the very first piece of content that I create in a brand new series that I'm starting called If This, Then What? And this first episode in this series is on knee kissing! What is it, why it is happening in the first place, and then some exercises and things that you can do to combat it. Additional Resources : https://www.doctorgretchenhawley.com/...
141. New Research on Primary Progressive MS w/ Dr. Bob Axtell 16.08.2023 25:02
On todays episode, Dr. Bob talks to us about his research (their newest findings discovered a potential treatment for primary-progressive MS)., what it means for people with Primary progressive MS, and things you can do NOW to set yourself up for even more benefit when future therapies arrive. Bob Axtell is an Associate Member of the Arthritis & Clinical Immunology Research Program at th...
140. Improved Walking in 2 Weeks w/ This Routine 09.08.2023 18:39
Thanks so much for tuning in today! I wanted to share a story with you about a 1:1 client that I've been working with for just about one month. And two weeks into us working together, she started noticing really great benefits in her walking. But I wanted to share with you what those benefits are, what exercise routine she's doing to get those benefits, and also a surprising observation that at fi...
139. Neuroplasticity & Neuro Physical Therapy w/ Eliz Martin 02.08.2023 47:18
I have a very special guest, Eliz Martin. On today's episode, we talk about how Eliz has used neuroplasticity and physical therapy to go from being nonverbal and nonambulatory to now speaking clearly and walking with her forearm crutches. Every story and experience with neuroplasticity is different, but I think you'll find Eliz's very inspiring! Connect with Eliz: ⭑ Instagram &nb...
138. Triggers for Multiple Sclerosis 26.07.2023 24:32
Today, I am chatting with you about all things relating to triggers and MS! Recently, a lot of my MSing Link members, or my 1:1 clients, have been asking me for help in determining why they are experiencing symptoms when there does not seem to be a clear reason. So, this episode, hopefully, can be a helpful guide if you are experiencing this as well, or for the future! Episode reference: The...
137. Brain/Gut Connection with Dr. Kim Bretz ND 19.07.2023 30:18
Today, I am joined by Dr. Kim Bretz, ND! This is her second episode with The MSing Link Podcast, and I am so excited to have her back to talk about the brain, gut connection! She dives into why our brains and guts communicate, what a dysregulation can create, and more! Dr. Kim Bretz ND is a practicing naturopathic doctor with a focus on gut health for over 20 years. She is an advocate for ed...
136. Improve Your Mobility with Progressive MS w/ Susan W. 12.07.2023 33:38
Today, I have a very special guest with me. Her name is Susan! I have had the opportunity to work with Susan in my 1:1 Mentor Membership program, and now she has continued on with The MSing Link program. Susan has seen so much improvement in her goals of standing for longer periods of time, improving her walking, and more! She shares her journey to diagnosis, about having spinal cord lesions, and...
135. Need A Wheelchair & a Rollator? Try Go Zeen w/ Dr. Petra Rose PT, DPT 05.07.2023 34:15
Have you heard of the Zeen? It's a new mobility aid that allows for so much added freedom while still being safe, and supported! On today's episode, I am joined by Dr. Petra Rose who works with the GoZeen company, and she shares with us all the in's and out's of this awesome new product! If you happen to be a more visual learner, please check out this episode on YouTube so that you can...
134. Racial Disparities in MS with Dr. Robert Shin 28.06.2023 25:16
We have a very special guest with us, Dr. Robert Shin. He also goes by Bob. On today's episode, we talk about racial and ethnic disparities in multiple sclerosis. Dr. Shin has a special interest in health disparities in multiple sclerosis, as well as visual problems associated with MS and other demyelinating disorders Robert K Shin, MD, FANA, FAAN, is a graduate of Yale Un...
133. 10 Types of Exercise (And Which is Best for MS) 21.06.2023 20:30
Today, I want to chat with you about an article that was recently released that caused quite a stir amongst the community, or at least in the part of the community that I am in contact with. The article was claiming that yoga is better for people with multiple sclerosis than physical therapy. I want to clear the air for you about this article and about what is actually true! Let's get i...
132. Disability Advocacy & Staying Mobile with Hayley Aspinall 14.06.2023 22:20
On today’s episode, I’m interviewing Disability Advocate Hayley Aspinall. She’s had Multiple Sclerosis for 23 years and while her MS symptoms challenge her daily, she’s able to maintain a positive outlook overall. Today, Hayley shares her tools and strategies to maintain her independence, feel good on the inside and out, and how her disability advocacy has led to changes in her local community and...
131. Reduce Inflammation & Calm Your Nervous System w/ Lisa Marcovici 07.06.2023 34:29
Lisa Marcovici is a licensed Brain Gym Consultant and international Faculty Member of Breakthroughs International. For over 20 years, Lisa has been actively engaging students of all ages in Brain Gym Activities to help improve their movement through exercises that release tension, reduce inflammation, and calm the nervous system. On today’s episode, Lisa explains how all that is possible + gives u...
130. Disease Modifying Therapies for MS w/ Dr. Joshua Katz, MD 31.05.2023 27:13
Dr. Katz is the Director of the Elliot Lewis Center, and a nationally recognized expert in multiple sclerosis, neuromyelitis optica, MOG associated disease, and transverse myelitis. I’ve worked alongside Dr. Katz for many years and shared many patients. He’s one of the few neurologists who truly listens to you and your symptoms and will spend the time to brainstorm solutions for living your...
129. Pool Therapy & Exercises for Multiple Sclerosis 24.05.2023 21:22
Today's episode is all about pool therapy! Is it beneficial or not, how you can incorporate it into your daily routine, and what it actually is versus what you may believe it to be! And I also share some specific exercises that I typically recommend to clients who are interested in taking to the water for their exercise. Additional Resources : https://www.doctorgretchenhawley.com/insi...
128. Improving Boundaries & Communication w/ Dr. Elizabeth Fedrick 17.05.2023 29:17
Join me today as I chat with Elizabeth Fedrick on all things boundaries! From the different types, why they are important, and how to set them, she shares her knowledge & tips on how to be effective, but kind. Boundaries are such an important tool in effective communication and relationships! You won't want to miss this one! Dr. Elizabeth Fedrick, PhD, LPC Biography: I am a...
127. Progress is Possible w/ Debbie E. 10.05.2023 28:20
Today, I am chatting with Debbie E! Debbie is a MSing Link member, and someone who I had the pleasure of working 1:1 with! Throughout her journey with MS since diagnosis, she was seeking out a program that would allow her to feel confident, strong, and assist her in day to day tasks that require standing for longer periods of time. In her search she came across The MSing Link, and hasn't looked ba...
126. Treating Multiple Sclerosis with Fibroblasts w/ Dr. Hamid Khoja, Ph.D 03.05.2023 23:15
Join me as I sit down with Dr. Hamid Khoja, Ph. D. His newest research is looking at using fibroblast cell therapy to help slow the progression of MS as well as potentially remyelinate and recover previously lost function. This research is still in the very early phases of development, but the results have been promising and exciting, so I wanted to have Dr. Khoja share his...
125. Launching into the Pages of The MSing Link 26.04.2023 28:08
Tune in as I share give you a sneak peak into my new book that will be launching this year! I am so excited for you all to get this into your hands so that you can start implementing some of the practices & feel empowered! This book discusses everything from the basics of what MS is, exercises to help with balance & walking, mindset, and more! Additional Resources : htt...
124. Occupational Therapy Tools & Lifestyle Hacks for a Fulfilling Life 19.04.2023 43:47
Lindsay DeLong OTR/L is an Occupational Therapist of 10 years focusing on adult populations in home health. She is the founder of EquipMeOT, an online platform on YouTube, Instagram, and TikTok focusing on modifications and adaptations for maximizing safety and quality of life through the lifespan. On today’s episode, Lindsay shares what occupational therapy is, how it can help people with chronic...
123. Foot Drop 101 12.04.2023 17:19
Foot drop, drop foot, foot slap, foot drag...no matter what name you call it, this symptom can be improved upon through specific exercises and stretches! Tune in today as I break down the slight difference between all the names used to describe this symptom, and what can be done about it. Additional Resources : https://www.doctorgretchenhawley.com/insider Reach out to Me : hello@docto...
122. The In's & Out's of Overcoming MS with Dr. Jonathan White 05.04.2023 31:57
Overcoming Multiple Sclerosis is a wonderful, wealth of knowledge for those living with MS! Their website and programs are always growing, and expanding to bring as many helpful tools, resources, and support to the community as possible. And I am proud to say that I’ve been collaborating with Overcoming Multiple Sclerosis for a few years now by offering MS-specific exercise videos and content. Tod...
121. Neurorecovery vs. Compensation 29.03.2023 17:34
Neurorecovery and compensation are probably two words that you have heard float around when it comes to how someone with MS should be moving throughout the day. But, it can be tricky to know when neurorecovery practices should be used versus compensation practices. Let me breakdown the difference between these 2 helpful strategies, and how they can be most effective for you! Tune in to find out mo...
120. Thriving with Chronic Illness w/ Nitika Chopra 22.03.2023 32:09
On today’s episode, Nitika talks about how thriving with a chronic illness means something different for each person, but thriving is available to all of us. She gives her top tips on how to access a state of thriving while allowing grace on other days. She also talks about her upcoming in person Chronicon event where I’ll be speaking! Nitika Chopra is a chronic illness advocate & the founder...
119. The #1 Mistake 15.03.2023 13:58
Are you making the #1 mistake that occurs when people are trying to improve their walking? It is absolutely NOT anyone's fault because it's something that we do not even think about when walking! It's bending the knee, or lack of ability to bend the knee. But, the good news is there are ways to help with this! Let me share them with you! Additional Resources : https://www.doctorgretc...
118. Spasticity Causes & Treatments w/ Dr. Mitzi Williams MD 08.03.2023 21:46
On today’s episode, we’re diving into the ins and outs of spasticity. You’ll finish this episode feeling prepared with actionable steps to improve your mobility and muscle tightness t o improve your energy and therefore, do more in your daily life. Dr. Mitzi Joi Williams is a Board-Certified Neurologist and Fellowship trained Multiple Sclerosis Specialist who serves as the Founder &am...
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