Curt Widhalm, LMFT and Katie Vernoy, LMFT
The Modern Therapist's Survival Guide with Curt Widhalm and Katie Vernoy
The Modern Therapist’s Survival Guide: Where Therapists Live, Breathe, and Practice as Human Beings It’s time to reimagine therapy and what it means to be a therapist. We are human beings who can now present ourselves as whole people, with authenticity, purpose, and connection. Especially now, when clinicians must develop a personal brand to market their private practices, and are connecting over social media, engaging in social activism, pushing back against mental health stigma, and facing a whole new style of entrepreneurship. To support you as a whole person, a business owner, and a therap...
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Curt Widhalm, LMFT and Katie Vernoy, LMFT
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Jul 6, 2026
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No Cap: It’s Time to Glow Up Your Teen Therapy Skills 01.07.2024 38:56
No Cap: It’s Time to Glow Up Your Teen Therapy Skills Curt and Katie chat about how to work effectively with teen clients. We look at what adults often get wrong about teens as well as how therapists can develop real relationships with their teen clients. We also look at the differences that can show up in how you do therapy with teens. Transcripts for this episode will be available at mtsgpodcast...
More Than Cogs in the Machine: Bringing trauma-informed principles into the workplace 24.06.2024 1:09:39
More Than Cogs in the Machine: Bringing trauma-informed principles into the workplace Curt and Katie chat about trauma-informed workplaces. We explore what a trauma informed workplace is, why it is important to implement, and how best to do so. We also explore some practical challenges to creating a trauma-informed workplace and ideas for how to handle these challenges. This is a continuing educat...
Pursuing Happiness as a Therapist: An interview with Stevon Lewis, LMFT 17.06.2024 39:05
Pursuing Happiness as a Therapist: An interview with Stevon Lewis, LMFT Curt and Katie interview Stevon Lewis, LMFT, about how he makes his career more sustainable. We look at his current philosophies around low effort, alignment, and fun. We also explore how he was able to initially able temper his expectations, work through misaligned paths, and pivot when needed. Finally, we talk about what it...
On The Move: How Run Walk Talk Therapy Reshapes Mental Health An interview with Sepideh Saremi, LCSW 10.06.2024 39:01
On The Move: How Run Walk Talk Therapy Reshapes Mental Health An interview with Sepideh Saremi, LCSW Curt and Katie interview Sepideh Saremi, LCSW, on her therapy model, Run Walk Talk. We look at the practicalities and clinical benefit of including movement (specifically running and walking) in therapy. We talk about the principles of movement as method, movement as modulator, and movement as meta...
What Can Therapists Do About the Loneliness Epidemic? 03.06.2024 32:43
What Can Therapists Do About the Loneliness Epidemic? Curt and Katie chat about loneliness as a presenting problem in therapy. We explore the misconceptions about loneliness and how therapists often go to fix the problem rather than understand the problem. We also look at the clinical considerations, including gender differences, the impact of Covid-19, and the changes in how people socialize. Fin...
When Doing “No Harm” Isn’t Good Enough: Bringing beneficence to your clients 27.05.2024 1:07:14
When Doing “No Harm” Isn’t Good Enough: Bringing beneficence to your clients Curt and Katie chat about ethics again. We look at how therapists decide what is beneficial for clients. We also contrast the concept of “beneficence” (doing good) versus “nonmaleficence” (doing no harm). We specifically explore how to identify when something is in the therapist’s interest versus the client’s interest as...
Is Seeking an “Abundance Mindset” Toxic? 20.05.2024 41:13
Is Seeking an “Abundance Mindset” Toxic? Curt and Katie chat about abundance and scarcity mindsets, looking at what the research actually says about these often-used terms. We explore the dangers of how the abundance mindset is often weaponized against entrepreneurs (like private practitioners) in how they think and how much they should pay for coaching services. We also look at the role of privil...
How to Navigate Shifts in the Mental Health Field and Your Career Path: An interview with Dr. Melvin Varghese 13.05.2024 41:55
How to Navigate Shifts in the Mental Health Field and Your Career Path: An interview with Dr. Melvin Varghese Curt and Katie interview Dr. Melvin Varghese about how he’s navigated his career path. We look at a life changing event that helped him to get perspective on what is most important to him. We also explore practicalities of prioritizing personal life as an entrepreneur. Transcripts for thi...
Are Therapy and Coaching All That Different? 06.05.2024 36:16
Are Therapy and Coaching All That Different? Curt and Katie chat about the differences between coaching and therapy, for a second time. We look at some common myths (and how coaches continue to share this misinformation). We also look at how therapists can effectively incorporate coaching into their therapy sessions, with client consent. Finally, we discuss the challenges inherent in coaching and...
Are You Too Burned Out to Work? An ethical assessment of therapist burnout and impairment 29.04.2024 1:10:34
Are You Too Burned Out to Work? An ethical assessment of therapist burnout and impairment Curt and Katie chat about the ethics of working while burned out. We look at what burnout is, how it develops and what the impacts are on clients and treatment outcomes. We also explore individual and systemic strategies to mitigate the risks of burnout. This is a law and ethics continuing education podcourse...
What Therapists Need to Know About Menopause and Perimenopause: An interview with Dr. Sharon Malone, MD 22.04.2024 42:04
What Therapists Need to Know About Menopause and Perimenopause: An interview with Dr. Sharon Malone, MD Curt and Katie interview Dr. Sharon Malone, MD, author of Grown Woman Talk, about menopause and perimenopause. We explore the mental health impacts as well as the differential diagnosis when assessing a woman over 40 who might be experiencing this phase of life. We also talk about what good trea...
Conscious and Trauma-Informed Leadership: An interview with Kelly L. Campbell 15.04.2024 33:18
Conscious and Trauma-Informed Leadership: An interview with Kelly L. Campbell Curt and Katie interview Kelly Campbell about her work with leaders. We explore the ways in which trauma can impact leaders, their teams, and their organizations. We also look at what trauma-informed leadership coaching can look like, including overarching goals for trauma-informed and high conscious leadership. Tra...
Is It Worth It? Analyzing return on investment for your therapy practice 08.04.2024 39:09
Is It Worth It? Analyzing return on investment for your therapy practice Curt and Katie chat about different types of return on investment (ROI) for a therapist in private practice. We look at what therapists often get wrong when deciding how to invest their time, money, or energy. We also give some ideas of what can be more effective in getting the highest ROI (of all types) for your therapy busi...
Don’t Forget to Pay Yourself and Other Money Planning Strategies: An interview with Carla Titus 01.04.2024 38:53
Don’t Forget to Pay Yourself and Other Money Planning Strategies: An interview with Carla Titus Curt and Katie interview Carla Titus, Fractional CFO about what therapists get wrong when budgeting for their private practice. We explore financial strategies to maintain a viable business as well as how you can grow your business responsibly. We talk about making sure to pay yourself first, then set u...
An Expert Witness Weighs in on Therapist Malpractice: An interview with Dr. Frederic Reamer 25.03.2024 45:07
An Expert Witness Weighs in on Therapist Malpractice: An interview with Dr. Frederic Reamer Curt and Katie interview Dr. Frederic Reamer about his perspective as an expert witness opining on therapist conduct. We talk about the three types of cases he sees (mistakes, challenging decisions, and misconduct) as well as what therapists can do to protect and set themselves up for success. Transcript...
Are You Burned Out or Are You Bored? 18.03.2024 36:00
Are You Burned Out or Are You Bored? Curt and Katie chat about another type of burnout, “bore out.” We explore the difference between burnout and boredom. We talk about what might be unique to therapists’ jobs that would lead to boredom. We also dig into how dissociation can show up as either burnout or boredom. Finally, we share ideas on how modern therapists can mitigate some of the impacts of b...
Seeking Purpose Beyond Accomplishment: An interview with Kasey Compton 11.03.2024 39:43
Seeking Purpose Beyond Accomplishment: An interview with Kasey Compton Curt and Katie interview Kasey Compton, LPCC, on her new book, In Search of You. We explore her journey of healing and what it was like to put that healing into a public space. We also talk about Kasey’s challenges with being bullied in her home town due to the choices she has made (getting divorced and then choosing a same-sex...
When Your Clients are Wealthy and Well Known: An interview with Dr. Holly Daniels, LMFT 04.03.2024 39:39
When Your Clients are Wealthy and Well Known: An interview with Dr. Holly Daniels, LMFT Curt and Katie interview Dr. Holly Daniels about working with high profile clients. We talk about the lifestyle factors (like isolation and dehumanization) that come with celebrity as well as the differences when working with famous and powerful people who bring in more common concerns like relationship challen...
When Your Client is a Little Bit Famous: The unique needs and perspectives for working with content creators in therapy 26.02.2024 1:12:40
When Your Client is a Little Bit Famous: The unique needs and perspectives for working with content creators in therapy Curt and Katie chat about the unique needs that content creators (youtubers, podcasters, onlyfans performers) bring to session. We look at the development stages of being a creator, what exactly a “content creator” is, pros and cons (for mental health) of being a content creator,...
The Power and the Peril of Pop Psychology 19.02.2024 38:46
The Power and the Peril of Pop Psychology Curt and Katie chat about pop psychology. We look at what it is, how it influences society, the dangers of leaving it unchecked, and how therapists can support their clients in navigating through all the different self-help content. We also challenge the use of Enneagram and Myers Briggs as “identity” and talk about using pop psychology as a starting point...
Is AI Really Ready for Therapists? An interview with Dr. Maelisa McCaffrey 12.02.2024 42:27
Is AI Really Ready for Therapists? An interview with Dr. Maelisa McCaffrey Curt and Katie interview Dr. Maelisa McCaffrey of QA Prep about her assessment of the AI tools available for therapists. We chat about the high expectations many clinicians have for note writing tools (and whether these expectations are really reasonable right now). We also look at what therapists are getting wrong when sta...
Are Therapists to Blame for Ineffective Workplace Wellness Programs? 05.02.2024 43:04
Are Therapists to Blame for Ineffective Workplace Wellness Programs? Curt and Katie chat about a recent New York Times article that claims that individual mental health interventions are not effective in the workplace. We explore that and other studies on workplace wellness programs, looking at what is ineffective, what actually works, and what roles therapists can play in improving outcomes for e...
When Your Client is a Super Fan: Exploring parasocial relationships and their effects on mental health 29.01.2024 1:11:23
When Your Client is a Super Fan: Exploring parasocial relationships and their effects on mental health Curt and Katie chat about parasocial relationships. We talk about what parasocial relationships (and break ups) are, who is most likely to engage in these relationships, and the positive and negative impacts of these one-sided relationships. We also look at how to use these relationships within t...
What Is It Like To Be a Medicare Therapist? An interview with Gabrielle Juliano-Villani, LCSW 22.01.2024 38:03
What Is It Like To Be a Medicare Therapist? An interview with Gabrielle Juliano-Villani, LCSW Curt and Katie interview Gabrielle Juliano-Villani, LCSW, about what it looks like to take Medicare. We talk about common myths and what the actual experience is like. We also explore the business case for taking Medicare and why (and how) therapists can grow their practice by opting in as a Medicare prov...
What Can Therapists Do When They Get a Life-Threatening Diagnosis? An interview with Patricia Ravitz, LMFT 15.01.2024 43:08
What Can Therapists Do When They Get a Life-Threatening Diagnosis? An interview with Patricia Ravitz, LMFT Curt and Katie interview Patricia Ravitz, LMFT, on how she navigated her pancreatic cancer diagnosis as a therapist. We talk about what happens when a therapist must take time away from their practice without notice, what therapists can do to navigate seeing clients while in treatment, and ho...
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