The Legal Ops Podcast

Alex and Elliot chat about: * A new legal tech directory and why there are so many in the market * A shareholder class action against Nuix, capping off a really bad year for the company * Legal tech capital raisings by Ontra and others * DocuSign’s new investment fund LINKS New legal tech directory: https://legaloperators.com/tech-directory/

Michael Callier is an award-winning corporate lawyer, legal operations director and consultant with nearly 20 years of experience in law firms and corporate legal departments, including at Nike, Infinitas and now at Factor.  We sat down with Michael to discuss diversity in legal practice and legal operations, including:  * what we mean by diversity * how the world is becoming more volati...

Alex and Elliot chat about: * Two recent legal tech acquisitions * Microsoft's seed investment in Definely * What's hot (and not) in legal tech in 2021 * A new "Tinder for lawyers" app LINKS What's hot (and not) article: https://www.legaltechnology.com/2021/09/06/talk-whats-hot-and-not-in-2021/ Tinder for lawyers article: https://www.law.com/legaltechnews/2021/09/07/tinder-for-lawyers-dating-app-a...

Colin Levy is a corporate lawyer, a legal tech evangelist and a regular commentator on all things legal tech and legal operations. His diverse experience has given him extensive exposure to the commercial contracting space, as a lawyer and also as a designer and implementer of contract management systems. For this episode we sat down with Colin to discuss the basics of contract lifecycle managemen...

Alex and Elliot chat about: * More news on the M1X MacBook Pros * The recent acquisition of Kira Systems by Litera Microsystems, and Luminance's related PR campaign * The maturing of the legal tech market * The 2021 Gartner hype cycle for legal and compliance technologies LINKS Legal Evolution article: https://www.legalevolution.org/2021/08/how-the-first-half-of-2021-signals-the-maturity-of-an-eco...

Mark Cohen is a genuine thought leader on the changing nature of the legal profession. He is a frequent speaker about legal transformation and a prolific writer on the topic for a range of publications, including Forbes magazine. A former trial lawyer, Big Law partner, boutique law firm founder and current legal transformation consultant, he has a wealth of experience in the space. We sat down wit...

Alex and Elliot chat with Alex Su about his hugely popular Tik Tok and LinkedIn videos which poke fun at the legal industry, how he creates great comedic content, whether or not he has faced backlash and how he transitioned from practising law to selling legal tech. LINKS Alex Su on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexander-su

Mike Haven recently became President of the Corporate Legal Operations Consortium (CLOC). He is also the Head of Legal Operation at Intel, a thoughtful and passionate commentator on all things legal operations and he was our first ever guest on the podcast back in 2019. We sat down with Mike to discuss CLOC, the state of the industry and the future of work in a post-pandemic world. Here's a snapsh...

Alex and Elliot chat about: * Recent capital raisings by Lexion, Tonkean, Intapp and Legal Zoom * A recent report rating law a high risk profession for psychological hazards * 6 product design frameworks from the inventor of the iPod and iPhone, and what they mean for legal tech LINKS 6 product frameworks from Tony Fadell: https://www.nfx.com/post/product-frameworks-tony-fadell/

Lawyers are notoriously poor at stepping back from their work to think about what they're doing and how they're doing it. Yet this reflection is vital to ensuring that the right output is being provided in the right way. Optimising the delivery of value to clients requires looking at the big picture, articulating the legal team's competitive advantage and, above all, creating and implementing a st...

Alex and Elliot chat about: * The highly anticipated M1X MacBook Pro and why Elliot wants one * Recent legal tech capital raisings by ContractBook and Tessian * Amazon using data analysis to update the disputes clause in its Terms of Service * The Legal Tech-to-English Dictionary and Elliot's attempt to define "User Experience" and "Change Management" LINKS ContractBook capital raising: https://ve...

In this Talking Tech episode Alex and Elliot speak with Alex Kelly, co-founder and COO of BrightFlag. BrightFlag is a legal spend management platform which uses artificial intelligence to automate the review and management of law firm invoices. LINKS BrightFlag website: https://brightflag.com/ BrightFlag on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/brightflag Alex Kelly on LinkedIn: https://www.l...

Dr. Justine Rogers is a Senior Lecturer in the law department at the University of New South Wales (UNSW) and Deputy Director of the Future of Law and Innovation in the Profession (FLIP) research stream. Peter Dombkins is an Adjunct Associate Professor in the UNSW law department and a Director in PWC's NewLaw practice. Alex and Elliot spoke with Justine and Peter about their recent journal article...

Alex and Elliot chat about: * Elliot's thoughts on his Apple Watch, after 4 months of using it * Recent legal tech capital raisings * Two big IT players enter the legal market * An ambitious new initiative to develop a common framework for structured contract data

In this Talking Tech episode Alex and Elliot speak with Jason Boehmig, co-founder and CEO of Ironclad. Ironclad aims to transform contract management from a low-value administrative task to a core business activity which provides valuable data and insights to the c-suite and other organisational leaders. Central to this mission is the development of the "digital business contract", a truly digital...

Alex and Elliot chat with Electra about: * Where the oneNDA idea came from * How it will eliminate NDA negotiations 80% of the time * Who’s involved in the project and what their roles are * The end of the “your paper or mine?” negotiation * Why legal needs its own GitHub * Why contracts are a public asset and should be open source LINKS oneNDA Website: https://onenda.club/ Electra Japonas Linkedi...

Alex and Elliot chat about: * The merger of HBR Consulting and Keno Kozie, forming the world's largest legal tech advisory team * Microsoft's "industry clouds" and whether or not they will come to legal * New presenter modes in MS Teams * OneNDA, a community-led initiative to create a universal NDA LINKS HBR Consulting and Keno Kozie merger: https://legaltechnology.com/breaking-news-hbr-consulting...

Have you ever wanted to know what legal ops looks like at Google? Or are you curious about what the President of CLOC thinks about the future of legal ops? We sat down with the inspiring Mary O’Carroll, Director of Operations, Technology and Strategy for the legal department at Google and President of CLOC, the Corporate Legal Operations Consortium. Mary, Alex and Elliot discussed many topics conc...

Alex and Elliot chat about: * Gartner's five Legal Tech trends that are changing in-house legal departments * BankWest's new comic-like terms and conditions * an update on the Australian News Media Bargaining Code * a recent newspaper article outlining how law firms can do more with less (spoiler: via legal ops) * PWC accepting its first Bitcoin payment LINKS Gartner article: https://www.gartner.c...

Karina Vazirova is a legal innovator, an experienced product developer and a specialist in user experience and design. Her agency, KV Labs, focuses on UX research, prototyping and design. She also co-founded FemTech Lab, Europe’s first FemTech accelerator. Karina, Elliot and Alex had an insightful chat focused on UX and design in a legal context, including: * Karina’s journey from being an interna...

In this Talking Tech episode Alex and Elliot interview Tom Dunlop. He's the founder and CEO of Summize, which is a simple, lightweight and easy-to-use tool designed to make it quicker and easier for legal teams to review, summarise and draft contracts. LINKS Check out Summize: https://www.summize.com/ Contact Tom: tom@summize.com

Alex and Elliot chat about: * early impressions on Elliot's new Apple Watch * Spark, a new dashboard covering fundraising and M&A in the legal tech space * Ironclad raises $100 million with a valuation of almost $1 billion * a recent court decision involving Uber regarding online acceptance of terms and conditions * the Australian News Media Bargaining Code, which could dramatically affect the...

Mick Sheehy is a partner at PWC in Australia and head of the firm's NewLaw practice. He is a former General Counsel at Telstra where he developed and led the legal department's innovation program, which later became its legal operations and transformation function. Mick, Alex and Elliot had a fascinating conversation focused on data and metrics for corporate legal departments. They covered: * Why...

Alex and Elliot chat about a bunch of legal tech news, including: * recent capital raisings by BrightFlag and Summize * a potential tech security vulnerability for Facebook's legal department * Salesforce's acquisition of Slack * Cydia's antitrust lawsuit against Apple * rumours of an upcoming Apple search engine * thoughts on the new AirPods Max over ear headphones * a Christmas message and what'...

This is the first Talking Tech episode and what a way to start! Alex and Elliot interviewed Sam Kidd. He's the Co-Founder and CEO of LawVu, which is an NZ-based company selling a legal operations platform to in-house legal teams around the world. LINKS Check out LawVu: https://lawvu.com/