Daryl Osuch, Elliot Leibu
The Legal Ops Podcast
The Legal Ops Podcast is about all things legal operations, legal business and legal technology. Every episode covers a new aspect of operations, transformation, or tech implementation, and we never stray far from human change management. Worried that legal is changing too fast, and want to be part of the conversation? This is the podcast for you. Hosted by Daryl Osuch, and created by Alex Rosenrauch and Elliot Leibu.
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Dec 23, 2025
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Episodes
The Pulse: 2023 CLOC Global Institute, legal department efficiency, adoption of generative AI and core legal tech capabilities 08.05.2023 28:32
Alex and Elliot discuss: * The podcast heading to CGI 2023! * A recent survey of perceptions of legal department efficiency * Current attitudes to generative AI in legal practice * Gartner's 2023 report on core capabilities for legal operations technology LINKS Legal's role in revenue generation: https://www.legaldive.com/news/legal-department-revenue-generation-contract-negotiations-onit-elr-repo...
Legal tech by the numbers with Raymond Blyd 12.04.2023 48:52
Raymond Blyd is seriously into legal tech. His websites, Legal Complex and Legal Pioneer, showcase the legal tech market by highlighting the most innovative brands and, more importantly, the numbers. How much capital is flowing into legal tech? How has the funding market changed in recent times? Who are the winners and losers? What does all this tell us about the current trends and likely future d...
The Pulse: GPT-4 is released and passes the Uniform Bar Exam, Microsoft Copilot for Office, re-creating GPT for under $600 26.03.2023 27:40
Alex and Elliot discuss: * The release of GPT-4 * GPT-4 passes the Uniform Bar Exam * Microsoft announces Copilot for Office online * Copying GPT for under $600, by using GPT LINKS Release of GPT-4: https://www.theverge.com/2023/3/14/23638033/openai-gpt-4-chatgpt-multimodal-deep-learning GPT-4 has passed the Uniform Bar Exam: https://www.law.com/legaltechnews/2023/03/17/how-gpt-4-mastered-the-enti...
Demystifying GPT and AI for lawyers with Mary O’Carroll and Cai GoGwilt 06.03.2023 51:14
Interest in artificial intelligence has skyrocketed in the past few months thanks to rapid advances in the GPT language model and, equally importantly, many vendors incorporating the model into their products and services. But what does this mean for the legal industry, both now and in the future? To answer this question we invited Mary O’Carroll and Cai GoGwilt onto the podcast. Mary is currently...
The Pulse: round up of 2022 legal tech investment, ChatGPT for Outlook and Word and rumours of a new MacBook Air form factor 16.02.2023 29:38
Alex and Elliot discuss: * A roundup of legal tech investments in 2022 including their thoughts on the trends for 2023 * Microsoft’s potential integration of ChatGPT into Outlook and Word, and what this would mean for the legal industry * Why Elliot is hanging out for the rumoured-to-be-upcoming 15.5 inch M2 MacBook Air LINKS 2022 legal tech investment: https://www.law.com/legaltechnews/2023/01/20...
Legal tech predictions for 2023 31.01.2023 44:26
It's the start of the year and time for a new round of legal tech predictions! In this episode we discuss a bunch of predictions from Gartner, including what we do and don't agree with, and why. Here's a sneak peak of the issues covered: * Big growth in the proportion of funding spent on legal tech * Replacing lawyers with non-lawyers * Ever increasing automation * Capturing the benefits of CLM, o...
Becoming a legal ops professional with Carl Morrison 29.11.2022 51:02
Carl Morrison is the Director of Legal Operations at MGM Resorts International, based in Las Vegas. He began his legal career as a paralegal, working primarily in litigation support and legal project management. He progressed to management roles in which he lead teams of paralegals to efficiently deliver complex discovery and document review initiatives, eventually combining his existing skills wi...
Designing a modern legal tech stack with Nam Truong 02.11.2022 44:33
Nam Truong is the head of Digital and Innovation at Law Squared, an innovative and young law firm based in Melbourne, Australia. Nam is relatively new to the legal industry, having spent a number of years working with digital products in the financial services industry. This non-legal background, combined with the blank canvas of Law Squared's existing tech stack, enabled Nam and the firm to esche...
Investing in legal tech with Zach Posner 09.10.2022 54:38
Zach Posner is a co-founder and managing partner of The Legal Tech Fund, an investment fund which focuses exclusively on early stage legal tech start ups. He is an accomplished entrepreneur himself, having started and sold three companies in a variety of industries. In a wide ranging and fascinating conversation, we covered many aspects of the legal tech investment world, including: * What is uniq...
Talking Tech: Malbek CLM with Matt Patel 15.09.2022 41:27
In this Talking Tech episode Alex and Elliot speak with Matt Patel, co-founder and COO of Malbek. Malbek provides provides contract review and management software solutions to companies across the globe. LINKS Malbek website: https://www.malbek.io/ Matt Patel on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt-patel-36680a9
Standardizing the legal industry with Electra Japonas 28.08.2022 42:50
Electra Japonas is the founder and CEO of The Law Boutique, a legal optimisation consultancy which aims to turn law departments into commercial enablers by supercharging their business through legal design. Electra and TLB are on a mission to drive efficiency through standardization. Their first two contract standardization projects, OneNDA and OneDPA, have received widespread adoption and acclaim...
The Pulse: money pouring into legal tech, switching legal tech vendors, Google's move into e-signature and a recent big capital raise 08.08.2022 26:43
Alex and Elliot chat about: * Why are investors pouring money into legal technology? * Is it getting easier to switch legal tech vendors? * Google's move into e-signature and what it means for other markets * AirSlate's recent $51.5m capital raise * Why Alex isn't wearing his Apple Watch any more (most of the time) Thanks to HBR Consulting for sponsoring this episode. Find out more about HBR here:...
Talking Tech: HBR Consulting with Kevin Clem and Lauren Chung 24.07.2022 51:53
In this Talking Tech episode Alex and Elliot speak with Kevin Clem and Lauren Chung from HBR Consulting. HBR is one of the world's largest legal operations consulting firms, headquartered in Chicago with operations throughout the USA, Canada and the UK. In addition to consulting on all aspects of legal operations, technology and strategy, HBR conducts an annual law department survey to analyse and...
Legal Design with Meera Klemola and Astrid Kohlmeier 07.07.2022 56:26
Meera Klemola and Astrid Kohlmeier are legal design pioneers. They are both teachers, speakers and writers, specialising in the application of design principles to legal services delivery. Both have consulted on this topic to the world's largest law firms and in-house teams. For this episode we sat down with Meera and Astrid to discuss their book, "The Legal Design Book", which was published in 20...
The Pulse: lawyers abandoning MS Word, legal tech capital raisings and the M2 MacBook Air 20.06.2022 19:38
Alex and Elliot chat about: * A recent survey suggesting lawyers are (possibly) moving away from MS Word * Recent capital raisings by Evisort, SirionLabs and Dilitrust * The M2 MacBook Air and what's to like (and not like) about it LINKS Lawyers moving away from MS Word: https://www.artificiallawyer.com/2022/05/25/are-some-inhouse-lawyers-falling-out-of-love-with-word/ Evisort: https://www.prnewsw...
Talking Tech: Hyperion legal business advisory with Eyal Iffergan 06.06.2022 53:38
Alex and Elliot interview Eyal Iffergan, Managing Director, Legal Business Advisory at Hyperion Global Partners. Hyperion provides legal operations consultancy services to legal teams across the world. In this episode, Eyal, Alex and Elliot discuss technology roadmaps and data analytics, including: * What a technology roadmap is, why it's important in both private practice and in-house and how it...
CLOC Global Institute 2022 23.05.2022 1:09:40
The Global Institute is the Corporate Legal Operations Consortium's flagship conference, which is held annually in Las Vegas, USA. The event was most recently held in May 2022 and attracted around 2,500 attendees from the legal operations ecosystem globally. In this episode we transport you to the conference via the many recordings we made at the event. We interviewed speakers, fellow attendees, l...
The Pulse: the road to CLOC 2022, legal tech capital raisings and ServiceNow expands its reach into legal 10.05.2022 10:09
Alex and Elliot chat about: * The (literal) road to the 2022 CLOC Global Institute * Legal tech capital raisings by LinkSquares, Filevine and Athennian * ServiceNow expanding further into the legal market This episode would not be possible without the support of HBR Consulting. If you're attending CGI2022, make sure to visit their booth. You can find more information about them here: https://www.h...
Productivity tips for legal professionals 26.04.2022 1:07:35
Want the best productivity tips from your peers in the legal industry? This is the episode for you! Recently we asked our followers on LinkedIn to post their best productivity tips. This comprises the philosophies, tools and other awesome stuff that they just can't live without. And we got a great response! In this episode Alex and Elliot go through all the tips, adding their analysis and views. T...
Talking Tech: Hyperion market research with Catherine Moynihan 12.04.2022 33:06
In this Talking Tech episode Alex and Elliot interview Catherine Moynihan, Senior Director, Strategic Intelligence and Advisory at Hyperion Global Partners. Hyperion provides legal operations consultancy services to legal teams across the world. In addition, their core business historically was the development of in-depth and high-quality research reports on all aspects of the legal tech market. I...
The Pulse: focus mode, contracts as APIs, automated time-based billing, predicting litigation outcomes and KYC for law firms 23.03.2022 24:59
Alex and Elliot chat about: * How Alex uses the iOS focus mode to control notifications * A bunch of legal tech capital raisings... * Time by Ping and Zero Systems: automated time-based billing * Common Paper: contracts as APIs * Ex Parte: predicting litigation outcomes * Thirdfort: AML / KYC compliance for law firms LINKS Time by Ping: https://www.artificiallawyer.com/2022/03/01/time-by-pings-rya...
Women in Legal Tech with Jodie Baker 08.03.2022 39:33
In celebration of International Women's Day 2022 we spoke with Jodie Baker about the representation of women in the legal tech industry. Jodie is one of the founders of WALTA, the Women of Australian Legal Technology Association, as well as being a lawyer and a highly successful legal tech entrepreneur. We covered many aspects of this important topic, including: * How the representation of women i...
The Pulse: Google enters the AI-based contract review space, another legal tech directory, a capital raising and an interesting ethical question 02.03.2022 27:01
Alex and Elliot chat about: * Checkbox's recent US$4.5m capital raise * LawNext's new legal tech directory * Google's AI-based contract review service, Contract DocAI * Whether or not lawyers should have an ethical obligation to be efficient (spoiler: probably not) LINKS Checkbox capital raise: https://www.businessnewsaustralia.com/articles/checkbox-raises-6-3-m-to-take-automated-app-builder-globa...
Legal tech predictions for 2022 and beyond 07.02.2022 55:28
We’re back! It’s a new year and that means almost every legal tech publication has its own predictions for 2022 and beyond. To save you reading them, and to add some spice, Alex and Elliot discuss the eight predictions they find to be the most interesting, compelling and, in some cases… the most wrong. They cover: * AI and Machine Learning * Platformization * Blockchain * Spend on technology vs pe...
Year end wrap up 2021 15.12.2021 50:34
And… that’s a wrap for 2021! Alex and Elliot are joined by a very special guest to reflect on the year and cast their minds forward to 2022. They discuss the podcast’s incredible growth, their favourite episodes and what they’ve learned from the awesome guests who have appeared on the show this year. They also offer their predictions on what will happen in legal ops in 2022, including the changes...
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