The Lawmas Podcast

Lauren and Lacey celebrate 100 episodes!!!! of The Lawmas Podcast by looking back at some of their favorite conversations and thanking their listeners. They also share an update on Christa Pike before discussing the Caleb Flynn murder case. Flynn, a former church music minister with ties to Upstate South Carolina, was convicted of murdering his wife. Lauren and Lacey examine the evidence, includin...

In this episode of The Lawmas Podcast , Lauren and Lacey discuss the case of Christa Pike, who was sentenced to death for the brutal 1995 murder of Colleen Slemmer. They look back at the crime, Pike's age at the time, her mental health and childhood, and the plea deal she turned down before going to trial. The conversation then turns to Pike's recent failed execution attempt and the bigger questio...

Lauren and Lacey are heading back to high school, sort of. With their 20-year reunion approaching, they look back at their Union High School days and talk about the drama of planning a reunion, the classmates they'd love to see, and why reconnecting 20 years later feels a little strange. They also reflect on who they were in high school versus who they are today, from being band and theater kids t...

Lauren and Lacey start this episode of The Lawmas Podcast with another look at the Lindsay Clancy case and a discussion about whether the possibility of the death penalty can influence plea negotiations. They also talk about the Idaho murders case and why requiring a defendant to explain what happened as part of a plea could matter to victims' families. Then, the conversation turns to a woman gain...

In this episode of The Lawmas Podcast, Lauren and Lacey discuss the Netflix documentary about Micah Miller and the troubling story surrounding her death and relationship with her husband, pastor JP Miller. They examine the case from a legal perspective, including attorney-client privilege, the ethics of recording conversations, domestic abuse allegations, and the federal charges currently pending...

In this episode of *The Lawmas Podcast*, Lauren and Lacey discuss the growing issue of children and teenagers bringing guns to school and whether parents should face criminal charges when it happens. They look at situations involving young children who gain access to unsecured firearms versus teenagers who may obtain guns without their parents' knowledge, and why age and circumstances matter. They...

Lauren and Lacey return to the Lindsay Clancy trial as closing arguments begin and share where they stand after weeks of testimony. They discuss the insanity defense, stipulations, expert testimony, mental health and the difficult question of where personal responsibility begins when serious mental illness is involved. The conversation also turns to the larger issues the case has raised about post...

In this episode of The Lawmas Podcast , Lauren and Lacey continue their discussion of the Lindsay Clancy trial, this time focusing on some of the legal issues viewers may not fully understand. They explain the difference between treating physicians and expert witnesses, why certain arguments happen outside the presence of the jury, and how jury instructions could ultimately play a major role in th...

In this episode of The Lawmas Podcast , Lauren and Lacey discuss the Lindsay Clancy murder trial and the very different stories emerging from the courtroom and social media. While Lauren has been following the actual trial, Lacey has primarily seen the case unfold online, giving them two very different perspectives on the evidence, speculation, and public reaction surrounding the case. They discus...

In this solo episode of The Lawmas Podcast , Lacey reflects on why experience should never stop anyone from learning. After witnessing an attorney reject helpful advice in court, she discusses the value of collaboration, constructive criticism, and knowing when to ask others for guidance. Lacey shares examples from her own legal career, including seeking input from other attorneys, learning from c...

In this episode of The Lawmas Podcast , Lauren and Lacey take a break from legal headlines to talk about something every working parent understands: surviving summer. They share the realities of balancing busy law practices, family vacations, summer camps, childcare, and the challenge of keeping routines intact while school is out. The conversation also touches on parenting children with different...

In this episode of The Lawmas Podcast, Lauren and Lacey revisit the disturbing case of Samuel Bateman to wrap up their discussion of the FLDS documentary and the latest legal developments. They discuss Bateman's recent child abuse conviction, his decision to represent himself at trial, and the lasting impact his manipulation had on the women and children involved. The conversation also explores th...

In this solo Fourth of July episode of The Lawmas Podcast , Lauren shares practical legal and safety tips for the holiday weekend while reflecting on what Independence Day means. She encourages listeners to celebrate responsibly by avoiding impaired driving, staying hydrated, and using fireworks safely. Lauren also recounts a memorable case from her time clerking for a judge involving a serious fi...

In this solo episode of The Lawmas Podcast , Lacey takes a break from legal headlines to share her thoughts on one of the biggest celebrity stories of the moment, the reported divorce of Jelly Roll and Bunny XO. After reading Bunny’s memoir and listening to her recent podcast episode, Lacey reflects on the relationship dynamics she believes contributed to their split, including emotional investmen...

In this solo episode of The Lawmas Podcast, Lauren takes a break from true crime and pop culture discussions to tackle a topic that affects nearly everyone: powers of attorney. Drawing from her experience as an estate planning attorney, she explains why these documents are so important, especially for college students turning 18, young adults, travelers, and aging parents. Lauren discusses the dif...

In this episode of The Lawmas Podcast, Lauren and Lacey welcome their producer and friend, Wendi, to share their experience attending a live event with renowned medium Theresa Caputo. The conversation explores what they witnessed during the show, the emotional reactions from audience members, and the comfort many people find when seeking connection with loved ones who have passed away. The discuss...

In this episode of The Lawmas Podcast, Lauren and Lacey kick off a new summer series focused on popular documentaries and true crime stories. This first episode centers on Netflix's The Crash, which examines the case of Mackenzie Shirilla, a teenager convicted of murder after driving a car into a wall at over 100 miles per hour, killing her boyfriend and another passenger. Lauren and Lacey discuss...

In this episode of The Lawmas Podcast, Lacey is joined by fellow South Carolina attorney Lori S. Murray for a discussion into the federal side of the Alex Murdaugh case. After weeks of questions surrounding Murdaugh’s overturned murder conviction and ongoing financial crime sentences, Lori helps break down how federal sentencing actually works, including parole, concurrent sentences, and why Murda...

In this episode of The Lawmas Podcast , Lauren and Lacey continue their discussion of the Alex Murdaugh case after taking time to read the South Carolina Supreme Court’s order granting him a new trial. They talk through the court’s confusing guidance on the use of financial crimes as evidence, explaining why the justices seemed to agree that some of the evidence was relevant but that the prosecuti...

In this special breaking-news episode of The Lawmas Podcast, Lauren and Lacey scrap their planned topic to discuss the South Carolina Supreme Court’s decision to grant Alex Murdaugh a new murder trial. Recorded just hours after the ruling, they explain what led to the decision, including jury tampering by former Clerk of Court Becky Hill, and why the right to a fair trial must be protected regardl...

In this episode of The Lawmas Podcast, Lauren and Lacey pause their ongoing discussion about the FLDS documentary to talk about several headline-making stories closer to home. They explore the tension between journalism and criminal defense after a well-known retired doctor is arrested on indecent exposure charges, discussing public records, media responsibility, and the importance of reporting ou...

In this episode of The Lawmas Podcast, Lauren and Lacey explore the Netflix documentary on Samuel Bateman and the evolving story of the FLDS. They begin with a discussion on extradition, breaking down how the process works between states and what can happen when someone has charges in multiple jurisdictions. The conversation then shifts into a deeper look at the structure of Mormon sects, comparin...

In this episode of The Lawmas Podcast, Lauren and Lacey cover a wide range of topics, from true crime headlines to real-life relationship dynamics. They start by breaking down the latest updates on Susan Smith’s potential parole, explaining how parole works, why hearings can happen more frequently than expected, and the emotional impact these repeated hearings have on victims’ families. The conver...

In this episode of The Lawmas Podcast , Lacey shares a deeply personal and professional story involving a now-arrested South Carolina trooper and her own past interactions with him in the courtroom. She opens up about inappropriate and offensive comments he made regarding her son with Down syndrome, and how she navigated those moments while balancing her role as both an attorney and a mother. The...

In this episode of The Lawmas Podcast , Lauren and Lacey are back together for a candid, unfiltered conversation that blends real-life legal questions with the realities of motherhood. The episode begins with a deep dive into a complicated family situation involving hospice care, lack of a will, and rising tensions between family members, offering a practical look at probate, intestacy laws, and w...