The Lawmas Podcast

In this episode of The Lawmas Podcast, Lauren and Lacey reunite to wrap up their Homicide for the Holidays series with a powerful and thought-provoking conversation. After giving updates on binge-worthy shows, cult documentaries, and Disney memories of recent vacations, they turn to a heartbreaking New Year’s Eve murder case involving 19-year-old Valerie Zavala Wilson in California. The episode wa...

In this solo episode of The Lawmas Podcast, Lauren continues the Homicide for the Holidays series with one of the most disturbing cases yet, the 1992 Christmas murders in Dayton, Ohio. What began as a group of bored teens and young adults spiraled into a random, brutal killing spree that left six innocent people dead between Christmas Eve and Christmas Day. Lauren walks through the shocking facts...

In this solo episode of The Lawmas Podcast, Lacey hosts this episode solo during one of the busiest times of the year for working moms in law. Between court schedules, school obligations, and holiday chaos, she shares an honest look at what it’s really like practicing law during the holidays, kids in the background and all! Continuing the Homicide for the Holidays series, Lacey breaks down a haunt...

In this episode of The Lawmas Podcast , Lauren and Lacey continue their Homicide for the Holidays series with two devastating family-centered cases that unfolded around Christmas. Before they discuss homicide, they walk through a complex legal question involving immigration, criminal charges, and victims’ rights, asking whether deportation should wait until a criminal case is resolved when victims...

It’s the most wonderful and chilling time of the year on The Lawmas Podcast! Lauren and Lacey kick off their Holiday Homicide Series, mixing Christmas lights with true crime darkness. They start with a horrifying Christmas Eve massacre in California, where a man dressed as Santa turned a family celebration into tragedy, and follow it with a shocking New Year’s Eve story from Colorado involving tee...

In this laid-back, laughter-filled episode of The Lawmas Podcast , Lauren and Lacey take a break from true crime to talk about real life, real stress, and the chaos of being working moms during the holidays. From favorite musicals and nostalgic TV re-watches (hello, Gilmore Girls and One Tree Hill ) to court deadlines, snoring husbands, and the fine line between saving money and actually enjoying...

In this episode of The Lawmas Podcast, Lauren and Lacey tackle two very real, but very different topics. They start with a tough conversation about caring for aging parents and the harsh realities of elder care laws, costs, and responsibilities. From guardianships and Medicaid to what happens when loved ones can no longer care for themselves, they talk through what families need to know, and why t...

In this episode, Lauren and Lacey mix pop culture with a dose of legal reality! The episode starts with a reminder about kindness and mental health as the holidays approach, reflecting on how stress and silent struggles can affect anyone, even attorneys. The conversation turns to the legal headlines: Kim Kardashian’s latest setback on the California bar exam, and South Carolina politics, where cla...

In this post-Halloween episode, Lauren and Lacey trade spooky season for true crime as they discuss the new Netflix documentary on serial killer Aileen Wuornos....Lacey’s long-time “favorite case.” The conversation transitions into how sexism, trauma, and the justice system collided in Wuornos’s trial, from a prosecutor accused of hiding evidence to a judge forced to recuse herself for being “too...

It’s the Halloween episode of The Lawmas Podcast , and things get spooky! Lauren and Lacey are joined by their producer, Wendi Hill, who shares the eerie story of the ghost that’s made itself at home in her house, from unexplained voices to doors flying open and even a spirit that might have followed her family heirlooms. The conversation moves from ghost stories to personal experiences with the a...

This week on The Lawmas Podcast , Lauren and Lacey keep Spooky October going with real-life legal cases that cross into the paranormal. From a man who claimed he murdered his landlord while possessed, to a mother who solved her daughter’s death after being “visited” in her dreams, they explore how the justice system handles claims that seem straight out of a horror movie. Lacey also shares a chill...

This week on The Lawmas Podcast , Lauren and Lacey wrap up their two-part discussion into Ed Gein, separating fact from fiction and unpacking what the Netflix series got wrong. From misrepresented murders to exaggerated rumors, they walk through the real story behind one of true crime’s most infamous figures. The conversation also explores how mental competency is determined in criminal cases, wha...

In this episode of The Lawmas Podcast , Lauren and Lacey continue their spooky-season series with a look at one of true crime’s most infamous, and misunderstood, figures: Ed Gein. Known as the inspiration for Psycho and The Texas Chainsaw Massacre , the hosts explore whether he truly fits the definition of a serial killer. Before diving in, Lacey shares a story from a Down Syndrome fundraiser that...

This week on The Lawmas Podcast, Lauren and Lacey kick off Spooky October by asking a surprising question: if your house is haunted, do you legally have to tell buyers? Inspired by the infamous Amityville Horror case, they explore how a true crime turned ghost story ended up shaping real estate law. Along the way, they tackle Halloween trespassing rules, self-defense and costumes (can you really c...

This week, Lauren and Lacey wrap up “Serial Killer September” with a look at two of South Carolina’s most infamous killers, Todd Kohlhepp and Donald “Pee Wee” Gaskins. From Kohlhepp’s shocking crimes in the Upstate, including the Superbike murders and his disturbing use of a shipping container, to Gaskins’ decades-long spree that earned him the title “the meanest man in America.” Along the way, th...

In this episode, Lauren and Lacey dig into the case of the Golden State Killer, Joseph James DeAngelo, a man whose crimes spanned burglary, sexual assault, and murder across California in the 1970s and ’80s. They discuss how DNA evidence, once unimaginable in criminal investigations, ultimately linked his crimes together decades later and led to his arrest in 2018. They also discuss the science be...

Lauren and Lacey kick off Serial Killer September with a look into one of the most notorious names in true crime, Ted Bundy. They revisit his cross-country crimes, his shocking prison escapes, and the troubling way his appearance and charm shaped public perception and even courtroom treatment. Along the way, they explore the legal angles: what it meant for Bundy to represent himself, how attorney–...

Lauren and Lacey kick off their brand-new Serial Killer September series by discussing how investigations into serial crimes have changed over the decades. From the days when police departments rarely shared information across state lines to today’s use of CODIS, DNA databases, and even familial DNA through ancestry websites, the tools for catching killers look dramatically different. The conversa...

In this episode of The Lawmas Podcast , Lauren and Lacey mix pop culture with legal insight. After a quick story about Lacey’s trip to Atlanta to see basketball star A’ja Wilson, they discuss two trending topics: the Menendez brothers’ parole hearings and Netflix’s new Biggest Loser documentary. Lauren explains why both Eric and Lyle Menendez were denied parole, citing contraband cell phones and q...

In this episode of The Lawmas Podcast , Lauren and Lacey continue their Infamous Women series with one of the most notorious names in true crime: Aileen Wuornos. They discuss Wuornos’ troubled childhood, her history of violence, and the series of murders that led to her place on death row. Along the way, they explore key legal questions around wills, inheritance, and the complexities of the death...

In this week’s episode, Lauren and Lacey continue their “Infamous Women” series with a case that shocked the 90s, the story of Mary Kay Letourneau. They revisit the headlines, the court case, and the deeply troubling facts of a 30-something teacher who began a sexual relationship with her 12-year-old student, ultimately having two children with him. Lauren and Lacey break down the legal implicatio...

Can you really fraud your way onto Dancing with the Stars ? In this week’s episode, Lauren and Lacey discuss Anna Delvey’s white collar crimes, her surprising light sentence, and why she’s still living (and profiting) in the U.S. despite not being a citizen. They also compare The Hunting Wives to real courtroom dynamics, because let’s be honest, we’ve all watched it in secret.  Listen now and tell...

This week, Lauren and Lacey break down the twists and turns of the Karen Read case, from the hung jury to the eventual not-guilty verdict and everything in between. They get into the legal side of things: what a hung jury really means, how third-party guilt works, and whether Read might have a case to get her legal fees or property back. Before that, they kick things off with a quick mention take...

This week, Lauren and Lacey explore why some murder cases result in death penalty charges while others end in plea deals, sparked by the controversial Brian Kohlberger plea agreement and a divisive Indiana case where victim families disagreed with prosecutors' decisions. The hosts address a key misconception about victim trauma in the legal system. When cases involve child victims, prosecutors oft...

In this episode of The Lawmas Podcast, Lacey and Lauren return with updates on some of the biggest legal cases they've discussed on the show. First, coming off of the July 4th holiday, they cover fireworks laws, then dig into major developments in the Alex Murdaugh appeal (including possible Brady violations), discuss new evidence that could impact the Menendez brothers’ case, and share a candid t...