the goop podcast

Cleo Wade—poet, activist, and author of Where to Begin—joins Elise Loehnen to talk about why she’s hopeful. She reminds us that simple words can turn into bigger actions. She helps us identify the things that get in our own way, which are often self-inflicted rules we impose on ourselves and each other that simply don’t work. We have a responsibility, Wade says, to tell our stories—and to find way...

“We’re not just fully human,” says theologian Meggan Watterson. “We’re also fully divine.” In her book Mary Magdalene Revealed, Watterson explains why the recovered gospel of this controversial figure—which was ordered to be destroyed in the fourth century—has the power to change the way we see our history, present, and future. Together, Watterson and Elise Loehnen examine the roots of femininity...

“It’s not as simple as choosing not to care—you’re caught in a bind either way,” says Alicia Menendez, MSNBC anchor and author of The Likeability Trap. Menendez joins Elise Loehnen to talk about why many women are presented with two options: being a good leader or being liked. She urges us to stop responding to situations with the hope we will be more liked. And instead, she suggests that we ask o...

“Courage is not an absence of fear,” says Mellody Hobson, co-CEO and president of Ariel Investments. “It’s overcoming it.” Hobson, who experienced financial instability throughout her childhood, set out to understand money. And once she did, she decided to spread that knowledge to help others feel financially empowered. Hobson believes in the power of women: When we surrender our dreams of being r...

Sophia Bush—actor, activist, and host of the podcast Work in Progress—joined Elise Loehnen on stage at the last In goop Health summit of the year. “You’re very often reduced to the thing that’s the least interesting about you,” Bush said, “because it makes other people feel comfortable when they’re in the presence of successful women.” It can be scary to leave the box that other people put you in....

“I felt empty and alone,” says Demi Moore, “but oddly not lonely.” The actor and author of the new memoir Inside Out joins GP to talk about what happened after the things she had been hiding from “came spilling out.” Moore describes the process of becoming vulnerable and learning to identify the misperceptions we hold against ourselves and others. One of the biggest traps, says Moore, is needing t...

“How are you going to live your life in a way that is kind, and loving, and honest, and with integrity?” asks Sarah Hurwitz, former speechwriter for Michelle and Barack Obama and author of Here All Along. In her new book, Hurwitz rediscovered Judaism for herself, and today she shares some of the principles and traditions that could help anyone to create a more fulfilling life. She talks about diff...

GP met functional medicine practitioner Alejandro Junger in 2007, and her journey into wellness was forever changed because of it. Junger, who founded the twenty-one-day Clean Program and wrote the bestselling book Clean, has a new seven-day detox protocol and accompanying book, Clean 7. And now he’s sitting down with GP to share what he’s learned about detoxification, intermittent fasting, and ma...

“You don’t want to live on someone else’s fumes,” says Lisa Brennan-Jobs, author of Small Fry, abestselling memoir about growing up in Silicon Valley as the daughter of artist Chrisann Brennan and Apple legend Steve Jobs. Today, Brennan-Jobs and Elise Loehnen talk about the complicated feelings that often arise when we look back at our past—and about how we can sit with and process those feelings....

“When you put on your clothes, how do you feel?” asks Ingrid Fetell Lee, designer and author of the brilliantly researched book Joyful: The Surprising Power of Ordinary Things to Create Extraordinary Happiness. Fetell Lee sits down with Elise Loehnen to explore how different sensory experiences can help us tap into our joy again. They talk about why we, as a society, tend to devalue sensory experi...

“There are more and more academics and scientists becoming interested in matters that have to do with consciousness,” says Leslie Kean, journalist and author of Surviving Death. Kean joins chief content officer Elise Loehnen to talk about life’s greatest mysteries and the mounting evidence suggesting that consciousness is much bigger than our brains. They talk about how biology and spiritual meani...

“I was fully stuck in this neurotic paradox,” says life coach Sasha Heinz, who has a PhD in developmental psychology. That paradox might be familiar: “I do what I don’t want to do, and I don’t do what I want to do.” In this episode, Heinz sits down with Elise Loehnen (who happens to be an old friend) to talk about breaking free from mental blocks. Our thoughts, Heinz reminds us, are optional. And...

“There is a source energy that runs through all of us that animates us,” says Jill Blakeway, acupuncturist and author of Energy Medicine. Today, Blakeway joins Elise Loehnen to talk about the integration of Eastern and Western medicine and what she’s come to understand about the power of acupuncture and different forms of energy healing. She explains what happens when our qi is blocked—dysfunction...

Our cohosts, Gwyneth Paltrow and Elise Loehnen, sit down with Megan Twohey and Jodi Kantor—coauthors of She Said and the New York Times investigative journalists who won the Pulitzer Prize for their reporting on Harvey Weinstein. As part of their research, Twohey and Kantor interviewed many women, GP among them. Today, these four women are having a different kind of conversation and reflecting on...

“There’s a space between people that we just have to take a risk and just leap and see how we can connect,” says Joel Salinas, Harvard Medical School neurologist and author of Mirror Touch. Salinas has mirror-touch synesthesia: He explains to host Elise Loehnen that he perceives his senses as mixed (i.e., he hears colors) and that he’s able to feel the physical and emotional sensations of other pe...

“So much of the healing that can come to us, we can create for ourselves,” says James Gordon, MD, psychiatrist and author of The Transformation. Gordon is the founder and director of the Center for Mind-Body Medicine and a clinical professor in the Departments of Psychiatry and Family Medicine at Georgetown University. His work is redefining the way we think of trauma, which affects everyone over...

“We set quarter-lifers up to fail,” says psychotherapist Satya Doyle Byock, “and then we make fun of them.” In her practice (called Quarter-Life Counseling), Byock primarily sees people in their twenties and thirties. Today, she sits down with chief content officer Elise Loehnen—a childhood friend—to talk about the universal experience of becoming an adult and trying to figure out who you are in t...

“The world isn’t so evil as people assume,” says Joel Stein, journalist, funnyman, and author of In Defense of Elitism. Stein joins chief content officer Elise Loehnen to talk about what he uncovered when he decided to investigate why people vote the way they do. And how he came to understand where people with very different voting behaviors were coming from. He explains his take on elitism, why a...

GP sat down with Kerry Washington in front of a live audience, and they started reminiscing about going to the same all-girls school in New York City. They talked about how their education shaped the trajectory of their lives in different ways (and also about that time Jennifer Lopez was Washington’s dance teacher). Washington told us why her heart breaks a little for her eleven-year-old self and...

“We need to do something different to feel something different,” says Will Cole, DC, functional medicine practitioner and cohost of the goopfellas podcast. Today, he’s talking with chief content officer and friend Elise Loehnen about why so many of us feel chronically unwell. He takes us through the roots of inflammation and the two elimination food plans designed to soothe them, outlined in his n...

“I have more freedom than I’ve ever had,” says Catt Sadler, journalist and host of the podcast NAKED. After more than a decade of working at E! Entertainment, Sadler, who has won three Emmys, chose to leave over a wage gap issue. Today, she sits down with chief content officer Elise Loehnen to talk about becoming an entrepreneur and your own boss in life. She explains why anger sometimes pushes us...

“We would much rather think than do,” says Barry Michels, psychotherapist and coauthor of The Tools and Coming Alive. He sat down with GP at In goop Health London to share his tools for letting go of negativity, for holding pain, and for doing the difficult things that bring us fulfillment. They also talk a lot about the feminine and masculine forces at work in the culture and within each of us, w...

“We’re so caught up in our own sense of not belonging,” says Elaine Welteroth, “that we aren’t even recognizing that we’re all in it together.” The former editor in chief of Teen Vogue and the author of More than Enough joins Elise Loehnen to talk about making space for ourselves and others at the office and in love. Welteroth believes that struggle and heartbreak serve a purpose and that hers hav...

“We need to change the cage we’re all living in,” says Johann Hari, the author of Lost Connections. Hari struggled with depression for most of his life. For two different reasons, he was told it was all in his head. He got some relief with antidepressant medication but not enough. And as a journalist, he wanted to understand why more people were feeling the same way—depressed, anxious, disconnecte...

“Being alive and existing isn’t good enough,” says Dr. Robin Berzin. “We want to feel well.” The founder and CEO of the functional medicine practice Parsley Health believes that the scope of our health care system is dated, and that we need to bridge the gap between medicine and wellness. Her work melds the conventional with the traditional, and modern technology with intimate connection. Today Be...