The Defiance and Obedience Podcast

After visiting the 2026 Logos Teacher Training event in Moscow, ID, Josh and Ian break down some of the principles and tactics that they took from the event. Many of the things have application in the realm of parenting as well which they also touch on. The recording studio was a Toyota Tundra so it sounds a bit… different.     Drinks:   Polar Seltzer Poppi Prebiotic Soda

For as crazy of a headline as that sounds, we think it all flows pretty well in the episode - but you can decide for yourself. Ha. There are lots of good things to talk about and we are constantly trying to challenge ourselves to be better and to grow in these various areas. Hopefully you, the listener, also find some value! Cheers. Brews:   Tartside Hyperdrive by Great Notion Brewing Midnight Sna...

There are too many ironic and noteworthy Not the Bee headlines but we touch on a few valuable ones. Also, what would you do if you lived in a semi-remote area and a strange vehicle, driven by someone you don't recognize, is coming down your driveway? We also discuss the tragedy of aborting babies that are merely suspected of having downs syndrome or some other physical or mental condition. Listen...

Does your child hate you or are they SCREAMING for you to rescue them? Is their fit a demonstration of their resolve to ruin your afternoon OR more of a reflection of you ignoring their need for discipline? More often than not, our children is a direct reflection of ourselves - either on purpose or by neglect.   Brews: Orange & Cacao - Barrel-Aged Cuvee (2026) - Fremont Brewing Dragon's Milk Tripl...

A discussion of a Woodinville whiskey we sample launches us into a conversation about feasting, alcohol, and communion. We also talk about the landmark decision by the US Supreme Court that trucking companies can be sued for hiring unsafe drivers. If you haven't heard the song that Spencer Pratt (candidate for LA mayor) made, we give you some of that creative comedy here. Enjoy!   Drinks: STRAIGHT...

What is happening in Texas these days?! Muslims setting up their own districts, Indians christening homes with cow poo - all while still having a reputation for being one of the most 'Merica states in the Union! We also discuss churches' and schools' readiness or lack or readiness for an eminent threat.   Brews: Woodinville Rye BA Imperial Brown by Here Today Brewery and Kitchen Peanut Butter Milk...

As we jump back into the groove of regular episodes, combing through recent "Not the Bee" headlines, leads us to a discussion of what defines our America culture and the values that undergird it. We discuss how we can't expect to welcome all cultures (without their assimilation to our values and standards) without some of the side effects now being seen in various cultures around the world (barbec...

We are happy to welcome Jubal Marlatt, of Jubilee Clinics, back to the show to provide an update of the clinic and its operations. We are thankful for him and Dr. Marks as they both are bringing this operation to life in our area but it might be what America needs, at scale. Also stay tuned for some good boy-raising, 20-20 insight.     Brews: Squatch Tracks Pastry Stout by Great Notion Barrel-Aged...

Ian explains why he has a beef with eagles? This gets us on a rabbit trail about predator hunting - COYOTES… mostly. We get to our main topic which is discussing how we can raise kids to love their people and be ok with other people - like submitting to other authorities, dealing with other kids with different standards and maybe even other authorities with different standards! Evangel Classical F...

Are things getting worse in WA State for those that want to raise a family, start a business, be productive and flourish?! Perhaps this is the case - but it should not dampen our efforts to lean into training our children up in the way that they should go. We might touch on some topics that induce some laughter as well - which is GOOD.     Brews: Mango Fluff Tart Ale by Great Notion Brewing Not Ge...

We touch on the how people are reacting to the podcast name change, some more Flock camera discussion and other updates. We then take a dive into the life and politics of Abraham Lincoln as well as the modern issue of machine guns in Kentucky.   All this and more on Episode 120 of the Defiance and Obedience Podcast! Brews: Monotony Barleywine by Irrelevant Beer Big Bad Baptist Cherry Bliss by Epic...

What do Conconully, WA and a book on leadership have to do with each other?! This episode of course! Coming off our awesome interview with Dean Pakinas last episode, we take a step back and reminisce on some local PNW places as well as discuss some principles from the book "It's Your Ship" by Michael Abrashoff. The laughter is free. You're welcome.   Brews: Melipona BBA Stout by OldSchoolhouse Bre...

This week we are joined by Dean Pakinas from Swans Trail Farms. We hear about his life story as a father, wrestling coach and now, full time farmer (and still, father ;). We really enjoyed this discussion and hope you do as well!   Brews: Apple Pie Sour by Claim 52 Brewing S.S.B. BBA Imperial Stout by Skookum Brewery

From ICE walkouts to parenting cues, this episode correlates what is happening on a more national level, with what we might be seeing on a local level. Are you paying attention to markers in your children's behavior? When you see issues, do you first think of what you can be doing differently? We tackle all this (and more) on this fresh episode of welding defiance and obedience into one inseparabl...

In this episode we do a deeper dive into the issues going on with Minneapolis - or rather one of the issues. It's hard to say whether the immigration enforcement or the rampant fraud are bigger issues. We discuss issues relating to the Second Amendment, what's legal vs what is wise, and many other issues that the Alex Pretti shooting brings out.   Brews: Chronocask BBA Imperial Stout by Skookum Br...

After we pour a beer, we get into what is happening in Minnesota with the ICE-related shootings and how that story has been developing. Do you occasionally take a left on a red arrow? We discuss our thoughts on that. Ha. The primary topic we dive into is indicators that maybe your children don't feel freedom to make their own decisions - even on trivial matters. As they get older, they need space...

Josh has a dream and feels compelled to share it with the listeners. We discuss the brewerys in the area that have a change of ownership. We also discuss how to help our children avoid pitfalls we might see in their future based on their frame and strengths or weaknesses. How do you do that without condemning them to that fate before those specific pitfalls arise? We also give some of our initial...

Minnesota has been poppin' off! It's the land of snow and crazy Karens these days. We recap the Christmas break and go over some recent events. Also, Pickle Beer (maybe) sounds like a great idea but it turns out that it can have a rather nasty flavor in beer.   Drinks: King Nut Barrel-Aged Stout by Prairie Ales Vodka, Gin, and Brandy by Bellewood Farms Hold the Pickle Lager by Fort George Brewing

Merry Christmas from the Contraratics! Our topics span from bourbon-barrel-aged beer to feeding the homeless (however you decide to interpret that statement). Join us for a Christmas episode and may your table be full of mirth and celebration! Beers Sleigh Tipper Imperial Stout by Brothers Cascadia Brewing Shadow Rising Barrel-Aged Stout by Skookum Brewing

As we approach Christmas, we continue to discuss ways that we fathers can mess it up with our own attitude and disposition. Are you not excited about the various social get-togethers over the Christmas season? Do you wish everyone would just leave you alone? Are you disappointed by the lack of theological sincerity expressed by your children? Get your soul on board before you ask the rest of the f...

We recap our Thanksgiving celebrations and hone in on Christian celebrations as a broader category. Why can't Christians just celebrate without over-spiritualizing everything? At the same time, why do other Christians look just like the world when they party? What does a well-differentiated, Kuyperian celebration look like? Let's dive in. Beers Black Nitro Stout by Sullivan's Brewing Company   Joe...

Happy (late) Thanksgiving from the Contraratics! Gratitude should be our default, as Christians. In fact, feasting should be a strategic anchor in the liturgy of our families and communities. We discuss how we can all be pushing ourselves individually to contribute to a culture of hospitality and feasting - that is, giving to one another through sacrifice.   Beers: Ten Fiddy Barrel-Aged Stout from...

How do you get a community of people to all support the same mission while accomplishing disparate tasks? Everyone can't be working on the same task directly but they are working towards the same goal. Specifically, we apply this to our local church community but we are confident that there are a lot of other churches around the globe with similar growing pains. We just start to chip away at this...

Living off-grid. Government overreach. Socialism comes to America. None of these things escape the purview of Christ. He is over governments and citizens alike and all must submit to Him. Join as we work through the various ways we should be submitting to Christ alone in all the spheres. Beers: KBS Hazelnut Fudge from Founders Brewing Matchless Treat Imperial Dark Ale by Matchless Brewing

There's the latest news in TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome) regarding the construction of a new ballroom at the White House as well as a couple other hot topics that are flowing through the news feed that we touch on. The central topic that we land on is how to produce men that are taking up responsibility and owning their given station in life.   Beers: Asahi Super Dry Lager   Speedway Stout Mapl...