Ian Lugg
The Defiance and Obedience Podcast
Welcome to the Defiance and Obedience Podcast (formerly The Contraratics). We are seeking to build strong men in the home AND public square. Each episode packs another dose of constructive contrarianism, curious musings and fatherhood direction. We realize that fathers and husbands need to lead in their home before they can be anyone of repute outside the home, starting with ourselves. Follow along.
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Ian Lugg
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Jul 6, 2026
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Episodes
What Is Government Good For? or "Uncle Sam, Stay in Your Lane" - Episode 105 08.11.2025 1:33:51
What wasn't talked about on this episode? It ends up being a longer episode, with some of the usual beer-marveling, but also with a lot of talk about the government's role, as God defines it. We also entertain what we will be doing for all of eternity - like dominion-taking, husbandry and, namely, WORK. Beers: Consecration (Ale aged in Cab. Sauv. barrels with black currants) by Russian River Dar...
Fatherhood Demands Action or "Protection Demands Attention" - Episode 104 25.10.2025 46:47
A common reoccurring theme on our show is calling fathers (first, ourselves) to take responsibility and take ownership of their roles as protector, provider and leader of their household. We explore this further after looking at one old and one new court case that involve fathers stepping in for the sake of protecting their children. Of course theirs a couple new brews involved as well. Enjoy! B...
Forgiveness, Tylenol and Fatherhood or "Healthy Skepticism and Strong Fathers" 12.10.2025 57:34
Josh and Ian are back together and bring the deep conversation as well as the laughter along with it. They recap on some of the Charlie Kirk reflections, memorial highlights, as well as the difficulty of forgiving someone of such a heinous crime against one of your loved ones. The humor comes later when they marvel at the eruption of Tylenol talk around the country - either those indulging in it t...
The Doctor Brings Common Sense or "Thomas Paine Still Makes Sense" 28.09.2025 44:54
Special guest Grant Weinberg (from "The Doctor's In" channel on YT) joins the show to talk about the many hats he wears - husband, father, teacher and professor, to name a few. The discussion starts with the reactions to Charlie Kirk's passing, more than a week afterwards, and then leads to a discussion about Thomas Paine's "Common Sense" and why it is an important little book. Beer: Talking Teeth...
A Heavy Week Calls For Truth or "Why Christ's Lordship Matters" 15.09.2025 51:59
In the wake of the assassination of Charlie Kirk, we discuss the need for Christians to be bold, to care more about the whole of life and why we need more people like Charlie. We might open with some light-hearted talk as we settle back into the "studio" but we eventually settle into the meat of our episode and we hope you enjoy. Beer: Red Mason Rye Amber Rye Ale by Watts Brewing Company Tripl...
Marveling at Fermentation and Confounded by Fatherhood or, "Why We Should Never Stop Growing" 31.08.2025 1:15:10
Our HUNDREDTH episode has finally come! We enjoy doing the podcast and thankful for our listeners. As the new school year approaches and summer winds down, we reconsider a consistent subject of being a present father and tuning into each individual kid. Also, we can't stop marveling at a good brew - the things that can come from water, hops, grain and yeast! Enjoy. Beer: Sour from Larrabee Lager...
Freedom and Lagers or "Why Our Celebration Should Reflect Mindful Gratitude and Not Mindless Indulgence" Ep 99 20.07.2025 53:04
The 4th of July should be about GRATITUDE. We've been adopted into an amazing heritage of those who have come before and secured many of the freedoms we now enjoy. But how did we get so soft as a country? In what ways are we trampling on the gift we've been given? ALSO, we have a Lager-Off in the midst of this conversation where we compare some of the more common lagers with some of the best, most...
Preserving Knowledge and Things of the Past or "The Wonder of Old Things that Still Work" - Episode 98 14.07.2025 1:10:33
Inspired by Ian's "new" 1971 Ford F-250, we go off on the benefit of things that are old and still work - both in terms of physical things and ideas. It's important to remind our children of where they came from. Also, we talk of Josh's recent experiences relocating a swarm of bees into a new hive. Beer: Even More Biscotti by Evil Twin Brewing Breakfast at Wiley's Dutch Cocoa Vanilla Coffee by...
Many Interests Under One God or "When You Worship the Creator of ALL Things" - Episode 97 29.06.2025 47:27
Is the necessity of people "chipping in" in a variety of things, unique to small organizations or is it tapping into a God-given feature? In other words, should Christians have a variety of interests and thus always be seeing new ways to contribute? We also get into some hot ECOLOGY talk. Tune in for this and more! Beer: Munchies Imperial Garbage Stout by Great Notion Brewing
Faith That Works and Businesses that Care - Episode 96 19.06.2025 53:14
Is the faith you proclaim coming through your fingertips? What you actually believe shows up in what you DO. So how are those things matching up? Can you see who you are in the story you're in? Are you checking in with those around you to make sure your perception of you matches what other people are seeing? On another topic, what makes about a customer service business attracts business besides a...
"The Glory of a Crisp Pilsner and an Honored Parent" - Episode 95 16.06.2025 54:54
We start off this week by talking about the various kinds of Pilsners that we've had and which ones we are sampling today. If you're not here for the beer talk, skip ahead a little. We then talk about some of the stuff going on the gun legislation side of things and some hope of suppressors being dropped from the NFA list. Finally, the meat of our discussion involves the importance of obeying your...
When Soft Culture Clashes with Entrenched Values or "Why Pluralism Ultimately Gets Plundered" 07.06.2025 56:24
We start by entertaining why the Muslim culture is taking over so many soft, pluralistic societies around the world. Also, what's with the Tariff War? Is it actually hurting the Chinese economy? What about the recent push to take suppressors off the NFA list - is it Democrats or Republicans primarily hindering that effort? So we talk politics, theology, and we should be DOING in light of all of it...
More Than Sourdough or "Raising Daughters That Have Grit and Grace" 23.05.2025 1:12:28
In this episode we talk a lot about raising girls to be capable, gritty women - not damsels that need to be wrapped in bubble wrap. We are pretty young in the parenting game but we talk about what we've learned so far, what we can do better and ultimately the vision of what we are aiming for with our future generations. Come along for the various rabbit trails that always ensue. Drinks Cherry Beer...
From Genesis to Jesus or "Why Building Culture Matters" - Episode 92 12.05.2025 2:01:01
The long-awaited Sean Higgins has finally joined the Contraratics Podcast after years of us teasing the idea, it all came together. We talk about everything from the theology of consuming alcohol to why bother to make Marysville great and how Evangel Classical School might fit into that strategy. The scope is broad but there's depth as well - as you might notice - this is a longer-than-usual episo...
Hitler and Camping Trips or "The Value of Telling Stories" - Ep 91 25.04.2025 1:05:02
We record "offsite" on this episode during Spring Break - which applies to both us (as teachers) and our children. We dive into a little bit of Mein Kampf and why people are so afraid of it. Is it healthy to read writings of such hateful and truly evil people such as Hitler? Also we remind one another of the value of story-telling - both reading good stories and telling true and fictional stories...
Actual Care, Not Just Stated Coverage or "Why Direct Primary Care is Awesome" 12.04.2025 1:22:58
We get the distinct privilege of interviewing a friend and local entrepreneur who is endeavoring to opening a "direct primary care" (or DPC) clinic. This was a very insightful interview into the mess of the current healthcare system and all the impediments to actually serving the patients well. It's exactly this sort of thing that Marysville and its residents need and we are excited to help spread...
Building Stout Children Through Adversity and Repentance Or "A Better Stout than Barrel-Aged" 07.04.2025 58:39
This week we tackle an oft-repeated theme of repentance, this time with the specific with the aim of building sturdy kids. If they hear from our mouths one thing but we are showing them another, don't be surprised when they follow your example. Also a reminder that the internet is fake and gay - test everything (1 Thess. 5:21 & Not the Bee). Enjoy! Brews "I Assure You We Make Stouts" - collab...
Fellowship Over Food or "Well-ordered Menu Loves" 29.03.2025 1:00:34
This episode starts out the gate with returning to the subject of food and how we as Christians should care in the right ways. How do you maintain fellowship while having distinct thoughts on what is actually GOOD for you and your family? We also hit on the ninth circuit judge who recently made a video talking about why the second amendment should protect all the parts of a firearm, not just some....
Culture-Confusers and Culture-Shapers or "Mission Clarity in a World of Confusion" 21.03.2025 59:54
We start by talking about how confusing transgender "news stories" can be. After that point of debasement and hilarity, we discuss how to move a group of people, like a family, all in the same direction, pursuing a united goal. Is there a difference between a culture-shaper and culture-maker? ALSO, why homeschool or why NOT? Brews MellowWood Doppelbock (Oak-aged German-style Lager) by Urban Root...
The Unknowns of Aliens and Raising Perfect Children or "How to Wonder But not Wander" 15.03.2025 58:32
Is extraterrestrial life tenable? Are spiritual forces real? Can Christians do media excellently? Can AI get saved? Is there a spiritual "hack" around having to repent all the time? In no particular order of logical progression or importance, these are but a few of the questions we tackle in today's episode. Also, feel free to check out the video version of this episode over on YouTube if that's...
DOGE Goes Ham On Gov Fat or The Weightloss Program America Needed 02.03.2025 1:10:00
After an interview with Evangel Classical's Headmaster, Jonathan Sarr in the last episode, the Contraratics hop back on the podcast horse and dive into the outrage over Elon Musk's D.O.G.E. department. Of course, the typical rabbit trails are taken and do not disappoint (but if they do, we don't claim responsibility). Ha! Beers IMPERIAL DOUGHNUT BREAK by Evil Twin Brewing SPEEDWAY STOUT: GERMAN...
First Week Checkup or "TRUMP RETURNS" 02.03.2025 1:01:40
Apparently this episode never got posted from the week after Trump's second inauguration on 1/20/25. Don't want you to miss these gold nuggets! Ha. We give our unscripted reactions to how his first week was going from our perspective and how the country seems to be responding. Beers Soda Jerk Cream Ale by Skookum Brewery Barrel Aged Black Barley Wine Ex Novo Brewing
The 7 Year Update: 2nd Interview with Headmaster Jonathan Sarr 22.02.2025 1:23:57
Josh and Ian, both of whom are teachers at Evangel Classical School as well as hosts of this podcast, interview Headmaster Jonathan Sarr. They dive into questions of how the school came to be, why the classical model, and what makes the ECS culture unique. What's in the Dram? Woodinville Whiskey's 8 Year Bourbon Woodinville Whiskey's Rye Bourbon #RisusEstBellum #LaughterIsWar #evangelclassical #te...
Life in the Negative World or What Changed Since the 1950's? 07.02.2025 1:23:31
This was recorded back in the fall of 2024 and only now is reaching your ears. May it bless you and may you forgive for all the reference we've made to things in this episode that fail to land... simply bc we failed to release the episode! Laughter is War.
What's the DEAL with Ozempic? or "America Has Problems" 19.01.2025 1:04:53
The biggest news of the week was the California wildfires and the country has already moved on from last week's headlines. We are on the doorstep of Trump's inauguration but first, why is Ozempic or "GLP-1 Supplements" thrown in your face at every turn these days? We discuss some of the systemic problems it is seeking to solve and whether it is a good option, philosophically, for a Christian. Be...
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