Craig Curelop and Miller McSwain
The Co-Living Show
Co-living is one of the most misunderstood, and highest-potential, strategies in residential real estate investing. Most investors hear the buzzwords, see the cash-flow claims, and immediately assume it’s either too risky, too operationally intense, or too complicated to scale. The truth is simpler: coliving work exceptionally well when built on systems, governed by operational clarity, and executed like a real business, not a side hustle. The Co-Living Show exists to make that clarity accessible for serious professionals who want smarter returns without gambling on guesswork. Hosted by...
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Craig Curelop and Miller McSwain
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Jul 8, 2026
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Episodes
Episode 76 - Building Financial Independence By Just Talking To People With Chris Craddock 16.03.2022 41:11
If you want to achieve financial independence, just go talk to people and build new relationships. If you're in real estate, you don't really need to know what you're doing. As long as you understand that there is a problem to be solved and you have the answer. You don't even need any advanced CRM, just call people on your phone and talk to them. Start building that empire so y...
Episode 75 - The Path To Financial Independence With Scott Trench 09.03.2022 42:24
Everyone wants to achieve financial independence. The question is how to achieve it. Join Craig Curelop and Zeona McIntyre as they interview Scott Trench, the CEO and President of BiggerPockets, on how to reach this goal. Scott reminisces his path to financial freedom and the steps he took to start realizing that dream. So tune in and learn great financial insights on your path to freedom Love the...
Episode 74 - Breaking Debt Chains: Money Fear And Financial Independence With Ron Schneider 02.03.2022 46:56
Those rags to riches stories can sometimes sound too good to be true. Can people go massively bankrupt to incredibly debt-free in one lifetime? Ron Schneider is living proof that you can achieve financial independence. He has gone from $60K in debt in 2006 to a net worth north of $2 million in the past 15 years. Ron joins Zeona McIntyre to talk about the things from his childhood that hindered h...
Episode 73 - Secret To Success? Give Before You Receive With Taylor Doolittle 23.02.2022 55:22
How do you achieve massive success? Give before you receive. Craig Curelop and Zeona McIntyre welcome Taylor Doolittle , a passionate realtor in the greater areas of Minneapolis and St. Paul. Together with Team Steady, Taylor has been able to sell 678 properties. The essential piece is to bring value to your potential clients for free. When you help walk them through the purchasing process, they w...
Episode 72 - Getting Off Corporate America’s Rat Race: House Hacking And Financial Freedom With Nieves Soto 16.02.2022 45:26
Budding investor Nieves Soto started her house hacking journey towards financial freedom recently. With a deal behind her, what's next down the road? Craig Curelop and Zeona McIntyre take a look at Nieves and her investment so far. We hear, in her own words, how she found a property and how she secured a deal. Nieves also shares how she got her start in investing and how she went debt free....
Episode 71 - House Hacking, The BRRRR Method, and More Ways to Achieve Financial Independence In Real Estate With Colin McAlpine 09.02.2022 50:11
Need help with your expenses while getting started on your real estate journey? How does house hacking sound? In this episode, guest Colin McAlpine shares how he got into real estate as a means to achieve financial freedom. After a decade in corporate finance, Colin realized that the income he got from the time and effort he put into his work no longer seemed worth it. Today, he chats with Craig...
Episode 70 - Note Investing Your Way To Financial Freedom With Martin Saenz 02.02.2022 35:11
Finding new ways to achieve your financial independence? Note investing could be the thing for you! Joining Zeona McIntyre is Martin Saenz , Managing Partner of BeQuest Funds and renowned thought leader in the mortgage note investment industry. After trying his hand at real estate and other investments, he claims that note investing was the one that hit the mark for his financial goals. Martin sh...
Episode 69 - An Inside Look Into Airbnb Investing With Rocco Montana 26.01.2022 55:33
From a secluded beach house to an apartment in the heart of a city, Airbnb offers unique getaways for thousands and thousands of people. Shouldn’t you start thinking about investing in Airbnb then? Airbnb investing gives you so much freedom, both financially and time-wise. Learn more about investing in Airbnb, getting licensed, and more in today's episode as Zeona McIntyre talks one-on-one wi...
Episode 68 - Young Money: Being Financially Independent At 22 With Chandler Saine 19.01.2022 49:11
Does experience always equate to success? Craig Curelop and Zeona McIntyre welcomes young entrepreneur, Chandler Saine , to talk about how he managed to be financially independent at 22. Chandler shares how seeing his dad venture into business and have more time for their family drove him to follow the same footsteps. Craig, Zeona, and Chandler also discuss the values they consider critical for a...
Episode 67 - Cracking The Code Of Financial Independence Through Real Estate: An Interview With Christopher Loo 12.01.2022 49:09
There are many paths towards financial freedom, but one sure-fire way remains consistent, and that is the path of real estate. Whether through active investing or through passive means, real estate is here to stay. In this episode, Craig Curelop and Zeona McIntyre discuss walking the path of financial independence with Christopher Loo , a financial coach, entrepreneur and doctor. Christopher talks...
Episode 66 - Dan Haberkost On Addressing Landlord Mistakes The Right Way 05.01.2022 55:56
When it comes to acquiring properties, we turn to realtors and property managers for help. But no one is safe from all kinds of landlord mistakes, and sometimes you end up getting help from unreliable people. Craig Curelop and Zeona McIntyre are joined by Dan Haberkost , who looks back on his messy first deal, the lessons he learned from them, and how they propelled him to much better transactions...
Episode 65 - How To Get The Confidence You Need To Succeed With Bradley LaBrie 29.12.2021 59:48
How do you get the confidence you need to succeed? By listening to the right people. Craig Curelop and Zeona McIntyre present Bradley LaBrie , the co-host of the House Hacking Success Podcast . In this episode, Bradley shares how he house hacked his way to success in the real estate industry. But his journey was filled with challenges and strange experiences along the way. What made him push throu...
Episode 64: Earning A Passive Income Through Alternative Investing With Dan Kryzanowski 22.12.2021 54:53
A good way to achieve passive income is to get into alternative investing. Maybe you know someone who's interested in private equity. Or maybe you want to get into self-storage or some other form of real estate. There is a lot of ways to raise capital, you just need to form your network and build trust with them. Join your hosts Craig Curelop and Zeona McIntyre as they sit down with Dan Kryza...
Episode 63 - Get Your Finances Straight With Zero Debt Coach Brad Long 16.12.2021 52:29
Determined to rid himself of $174,000 in mortgage and consumer debt, Brad Long switched back and forth between being a musician and having a corporate sales job. Now, he remains debt-free, and he helps 6 and 7-figure corporate employees and entrepreneurs organize their finances and eradicate debt. In this episode, Brad looks back on his “financial awakening” and how he paid off nearly $50k of hi...
Episode 62 - Become A Sheeksfreak And Achieve Early FI With Dan Sheeks 08.12.2021 47:50
Early FI and what it takes to get there is not for everybody... and that’s fine! It has been a year since Dan Sheeks started SheeksFreaks, an online community dedicated to helping young people live their best lives by making smart money decisions. In this episode, he returns to the podcast to talk about early FIRE and how even teenagers can become millionaires—in just a few years! He also gives a...
Episode 61 - Intentional Investing With Former Marine Kevin Quintanilla-Toledo 24.11.2021 54:24
Real estate doesn’t have to be flashy. Take it from Kevin Quintanilla-Toledo. He used to be a military guy who just stumbled upon real estate investing. But now, he’s a licensed realtor with a W-2 job and a hefty portfolio! In this episode, Kevin breaks down how he got his first 3 properties, weighs in on the different types of loans that were available to him, and shares what it was like to be in...
Episode 60 - Taking House Hacking to Another Level With Kayla Govier And Bryce Givens 17.11.2021 1:00:06
When you hit rock bottom, the only way is to go up! Joining Craig and Zeona on the show are Bryce Givens, founder of Elevate Recovery Homes, and Kayla Govier, a licensed realtor and a member of the FI Team. Since 2019, they have been house hacking with the primary goal of saving lives—and they are crushing it! In this episode, Bryce and Kayla share how they met, their transition from “debt is bad”...
Episode 59 - Achieving FI Through Savings, Real Estate, And Index Funds With The Legendary JL Collins 10.11.2021 1:08:09
Joining Craig and Zeona on the show is JL Collins, one of the founding fathers of the FI movement and the author of “The Simple Path to Wealth”. He is set to release a new book titled “How I Lost Money in Real Estate Before it was Fashionable”. In this episode, JL explains the concept of “F-You money” and the virtuous circle that occurs when people go down the path to FI. He then talks about his b...
Episode 58 - Leaping From House Hacking To Multifamily Syndication With Tyler Giering 03.11.2021 50:51
Tyler Giering first learned about FI and real estate investing while he was in college, but circumstances led him down the path of finance. Because he wanted to invest in real estate, he leveraged house hacking and went from residential to large multifamily syndication. He now has over 2,200 units. In this episode, Tyler explains what asset managers do, breaks down his “for real” deal, and highlig...
Episode 57 - House Hacking Strategies With FI Team Agent Bryan Balducki 27.10.2021 47:43
House hacking is something you can do over and over again, and it’s going to build wealth. Take it from Bryan Balducki. He became a rental property investor by accident, but now, he is one of The FI Team’s agents. In this episode, Bryan talks about his very first investment property and how he got into rentals. While giving a breakdown of his 4 properties, he gets into a discussion with Craig and...
Episode 56 - Life Hacks From The House Hacking Doctor Jonathan Tom 20.10.2021 45:39
Jonathan Tom learned about FI at an early age and started out by investing in index funds. It took him some time to see real estate investing as an option, but once he did, he bought his first property (just last April!) and househacked it. In this episode, Jonathan walks us through his journey as a medical student-turned-doctor and part-time investor. He breaks down how he acquired a house and re...
Episode 55 - Hustling And Crushing It With Noah Evans & Jeff Fawson 13.10.2021 1:02:43
Noah Evans and Jeff Fawson both had rocky starts, but they hustled and found real estate in their desire to level up their lives. Now, they work together as the owners of Tree City Home Buyers and the hosts of the Chasing Freedom podcast. In this episode, Jeff and Noah talk with hosts, Craig Curelop and Zeona McIntyre, to look back on their “for real” deals and how they ended up becoming busi...
Episode 54 - Leverage Your Business To Level Up Your Real Estate Game With Mike Brockway 06.10.2021 39:35
Mike Brockway found himself on the path to FI after buying and house hacking his first property. Because he wanted to stop working for big corporations, he quit his W-2 the same day he closed his second property. Now, he is a full-time real estate investor and business owner. In this episode, Mike breaks down his first three residential investment properties and his events business. He also talks...
Episode 53 - E-commerce Your Way To FI With Connor Gross 29.09.2021 1:02:57
Today, we’re taking a slightly different route to FI, and lighting the way is serial entrepreneur Connor Gross . Instead of flipping houses, he flips online businesses! He co-founded the Cardly wallet when he was a college freshman. Now, he works full-time on what used to be just side hustles, and he is the co-host of The Next Generation Podcast. In this episode, Connor weighs in on the two paths...
Episode 52 - Start Young And Go BRRRR With Cody Caswell 23.09.2021 58:32
Cody Caswell is from a third-generation real estate investing family, and he bought his first property at 16(!) years old. He hated real estate during his college years but found his way back after interning as a commercial insurance broker. Now, he is 24 years old with a residential contractor license and 14 units under his belt. In this episode, Cody walks us through his childhood and the life l...
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