The Co-Living Show

Craig Curelop and Miller McSwain sit down for a solo episode of The Co-Living Show to unpack how they took a struggling co-living portfolio from around 50% occupancy to 90% occupancy in just a few months. This was not a simple “post better listings and fill the rooms” story. Before the turnaround, the portfolio had major operational issues. Owners were frustrated, residents were unhappy, vendors h...

In this episode of The Co-Living Show, Craig Curelop and Miller McSwain interview Jeff Hurst, CEO of Furnished Finder, about the growing connection between mid-term rentals, furnished room rentals, and co-living. Jeff explains why room rentals are becoming one of the fastest-growing areas on Furnished Finder, why the platform needs more affordable supply, and how co-living investors may be able to...

Off-market deals are where the deeper discounts live, and in this episode, Craig and Miller bring on Robbie Faithe to show you exactly how to find and structure them. Robbie is an Albuquerque investor, broker, and private lender with 18 years in the business and a full off-market acquisition funnel. In this episode: Why buying off-market juices your co-living returns How seller financing works, an...

What happens when two people with 26 years and 2,500+ flips under their belt discover co-living? For Brian and Gina Kingdeski, it meant ditching a struggling Arizona Airbnb portfolio and going all-in on building co-living homes from the ground up. In this episode, Brian and Gina explain why they made the switch, how they fill rooms faster than almost anyone in the space (8 rooms in under two weeks...

Pascal Wagner bought 12 properties in two years, and then his occupancy dropped to 65%. In this episode, he shares how he booked a one-way ticket to Atlanta, fixed the bleeding, and rebuilt his portfolio into a 104-room operation running at 95% occupancy and a 25% cash-on-cash return. Pascal is a true problem-solver, and he gives a masterclass in co-living operations: how to keep houses clean, set...

Corey Enman runs the largest co-living property management company in Phoenix — 40+ houses and 100+ rooms — and in this episode he gets tactical about exactly how he does it. This is a pen-and-paper one: the specific softwares, screening rules, and operations systems he's spent three and a half years refining. Corey walks through his SWAT cleaning system (sweep, wipe, attend to the bathroom,...

Most of the co-living world runs on PadSplit — but Craig and Miller don't operate on it themselves. So they invited a PadSplit insider to explain exactly how it works. Suzanne Vetillart, a Host Advisor at PadSplit and an 8-year Seattle investor, joins the show to demystify the platform: what it is, who it's for, what it costs, and why the affordable housing opportunity is only getting bi...

In this episode of The Co-Living Show , Craig Curelop and Miller McSwain sit down with twins Hem and Harsh , the operators behind CH Room Rentals , to unpack how they scaled from their first house hack to 7 co-living homes and 35 rooms in just a couple of years. Hem and Harsh share their story of immigrating to the U.S. from India, working full-time through college, saving aggressively, and using...

In this episode, Craig Curelop and Miller McSwain sit down with co-living investor Travis Schwartz to talk about one of the biggest debates in the co-living space: Should you self-manage your rooms, or use a platform like PadSplit? Travis brings a unique perspective. After starting out by building his own systems, managing leads, and filling rooms himself, he eventually moved his portfolio onto Pa...

Matt Osman is back... and this time we're going deep on one tool that can dramatically reduce the cash you bring to a co-living acquisition: the invoice authorization. In simple terms, it's an addendum where the seller agrees to pay your contractor directly at closing. Done right, it lets you fold renovation costs into your loan, keep the seller whole, satisfy the lender, and walk into a...

The Co-Living Insurance Gap (and How to Fix It) | ft. Matthew Osman Co-living is growing fast—but insurance hasn’t caught up. In this episode, we sit down with Matthew Osman , a co-living realtor and operator who’s been working on one of the most overlooked risks in the space: improper insurance coverage . Most operators assume they’re covered under standard landlord policies.  But once you go bey...

In this episode of The Co-Living Show , we sit down with Franco Montano , a seasoned operator managing 600+ co-living rooms (and owning 150+ himself), to break down what it actually takes to scale a co-living portfolio. Franco shares how he transitioned from running a 42-location T-Mobile business with 750 employees into real estate—and why co-living became his highest ROI strategy. If you’re seri...

The Co-Living Lending Playbook: How Smart Investors Structure Deals Financing is the part of co-living that most investors underestimate… until a deal almost falls apart. In this episode of The Co-Living Show , Miller McSwain and Craig Curelop sit down with Jessica Khani , a top 1% loan originator and real estate investor who has helped structure and close a large portion of their portfolio.  They...

In this episode of The Co-Living Show , Miller McSwain and Craig Curelop sit down with Alfredo Goytia, a co-living operator who scaled from 0 to 800 doors in just 12 months . This is not theory—this is real-world execution. Alfredo breaks down exactly how he built a high-performance co-living operation , including:  The systems required to scale from small portfolios to hundreds of doors   Why co-...

Scaling a co-living business isn’t about buying more properties. It’s about building systems that actually work. In this episode of The Co-Living Show , Miller McSwain and Craig Curelop sit down with Dave Edwards—an experienced co-living operator who has managed over 400 rooms —to break down the real operational systems behind scaling co-living rentals successfully . If you’re a real estate invest...

From $400K Loss to Lending Millions: The Co-Living Comeback Story In this episode, we’re joined by Fernando Corona , a co-living lender who’s helped investors close hundreds of deals—and built his business after losing over $400,000. We break down the real path to success in co-living: failure, resilience, and learning how to solve problems most investors avoid. Fernando shares how he:  Went from...

In this episode of The Co-Living Show , Craig Curelop and Miller McSwain are joined by Jordan Smith , a co-living operator who has built a 30-bedroom portfolio with a strong focus on systems, automation, and operational efficiency. Jordan breaks down how he got started with his first house hack, what the numbers looked like on that first deal, and how his background in management consulting shaped...

In this episode of The Co-Living Show , Craig Curelop and Miller McSwain are joined by co-living pioneer Clara Arroyave , who scaled a 160-room co-living portfolio generating nearly $2M annually using the arbitrage model. Clara shares how she filled rooms without paid marketing by partnering directly with employers, universities, and HR departments , how her portfolio grew rapidly in Boston, and w...

In this episode of The Co-Living Show , Craig Curelop and Miller McSwain welcome Harrison DeMaira , a large-scale co-living operator with experience managing everything from small townhouse conversions to 100+ unit buildings and 400-unit purpose-built co-living developments . Harrison breaks down what changes when you scale co-living into multifamily—and what operators get wrong when they assume c...

In this tactical episode of The Co-Living Show , hosts Miller McSwain and Craig Curelop sit down with Colorado investor and agent Tanner Pile to unpack one of the most creative deals you’ll hear this year: 👉 A $1.3 million property 👉 Structured with owner financing 👉 Acquired with just $5,000 out of pocket But this episode goes far beyond the headline. Tanner breaks down exactly how he negotiat...

In this episode of The Co-Living Show , Craig Curelop and Miller McSwain sit down with Caitlyn Verdugo — aka Co-Living Cait — an Atlanta-based co-living agent, investor, operator, capital raiser, and coach who’s been in the space since the early PadSplit days. Atlanta is one of the most mature co-living ecosystems in the U.S., and Caitlyn has seen the model evolve from “rent-by-the-room” experimen...

Welcome to Episode 1 of The Co-Living Show — where hosts Craig Curelop and Miller McSwain break down how to build real cash flow with room-by-room rentals . In this first full episode, we lay the foundation:  Why co-living is misunderstood, what most investors get wrong, and how Craig + Miller approach the strategy from two different seats — growth + acquisitions (Craig) and operations + systems (...

🎙️ Trailer: Welcome to The Co-Living Show In this official trailer, hosts Miller McSwain and Craig Curelop introduce The Co-Living Show—the first podcast built specifically for operators and investors who want real, scalable cash flow without pretending shared housing is simple. This show goes beyond surface-level advice and passive-income hype. It’s about what actually works in high-density resid...

After over five years and more than 260 episodes, host Craig Curelop, known as The FI Guy and a leading voice in real estate investing and financial independence, announces the bittersweet farewell of the Invest2FI Podcast. In this short but heartfelt episode, Craig reflects on the podcast’s incredible journey, lessons learned from scaling and focus, and what’s next for his ventures in co-living,...

What if real estate could rebuild lives while building lasting wealth? In this 45-minute episode of Invest2FI, host Craig Curelop welcomes back real estate investor Jim Boad for an in-depth conversation about scaling success through trust, discipline, and purpose. Jim shares how he pivoted during COVID from struggling rentals to sober-living group homes that blend community impact with strong retu...