Braeden Matson
The Brand Burger Podcast
We go deep with marketers and founders on business and marketing advice that drives commercial outcomes. Your host is Braeden Matson. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/braeden-matson/
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Episodes
Ep. 33 | Terry Seitz | Former Visa VP on Marketing's Role in Driving Enterprise Value | Determinism vs Probabilism in Marketing | How to Demonstrate Marketing's Impact on Enterprise Value 03.06.2026 51:28
My guest: The Nuance Collective Terry Seitz on LinkedIn Summary: In this in-depth interview, Terry Seitz shares his insights on the evolution of marketing from creative artistry to data-driven science, the challenges of measurement and attribution, and how marketing can better demonstrate its value to the enterprise. The conversation explores the balance between deterministic and probabilistic thi...
Ep. 32 | Ben Scandlen | Founder, Mosaic Growth Solutions | Decision Science, Why Marketing Isn't Chemistry, How Demand & Growth Works 21.03.2026 40:08
My Guest: https://www.linkedin.com/in/benscandlen/
Ep. 31 | Brian Koffler, Founder @ D.I.G.S. Marketing | All Things Paid Ads for B2B | Attribution, Measurement, Sales & Marketing Alignment 02.03.2026 34:21
My Guest: https://www.linkedin.com/in/briankoffler/ In this conversation, Braeden Matson speaks with Brian Koffler, founder of DIGS Marketing, about his journey into marketing, the challenges of paid media and attribution, and the importance of aligning sales and marketing efforts. They discuss the nuances of demand generation, the role of AI in marketing, and the need for realistic goal-setting i...
Ep. 30 | Will Stevens | Strategy vs. Tactics, Discipline, Operational Optimizations | Lessons for Executives & Leaders | Career & Personal Development for Marketers 11.01.2026 35:28
In this conversation, Will and I dive into the intricacies of marketing strategy, exploring the distinction between strategy and tactics, the impact of organizational incentives, and the challenges faced by marketers in the B2B SaaS landscape. We discuss the importance of clarity, coherence, and communication in building effective marketing strategies, as well as the need for honest assessments of...
Ep. 29 | Paul Ruscoe | Advertising Effectiveness, Why ROAS Is Dumb, What Brand Means, Balancing Brand & Performance, Expectation Setting & More | 6x Director & Current VP @ Incubeta 04.09.2025 36:07
My Guest: Paul is a 6x Director, current VP of Market Intelligence and award winning media strategist across multiple markets. He's Ex. OMG, WPP, Publicis, Jellyfish and currently at Incubeta. He's worked with brands like Kellogg, Pfizer, Microsoft, SCJ, Coca Cola, Apple, Sony Entertainment/Pictures, GSK, MSD, Lion Breweries, 20th Century Fox, Bunnings Warehouse, Go. Compare, Sanofi, J.A.L, and Ad...
Ep. 28 | A Marketer’s Shark Tank Reaction | What We Can Learn About Business & Marketing 05.08.2025 29:41
Original Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HObj7ISWnbQ Come holler: https://www.linkedin.com/in/braeden-matson/ https://www.growthquotient.com/
Ep. 26 | “Brand Marketing” Doesn’t Mean Anything | Defining Little b brand, Big B Brand & Branding | Mental & Physical Availability | Talking Brand to CFOs & Business Leaders 07.05.2025 28:50
Come holler: https://www.linkedin.com/in/braeden-matson/ https://www.growthquotient.com/
Ep. 25 | "Brand, Demand & Expand" Critiqued | Brand Marketing & Brand Advertising | The Gymshark Problem & How Brand Really Works 11.04.2025 27:01
Come holler: https://www.linkedin.com/in/braeden-matson/ https://www.growthquotient.com/
Ep. 24 | 50% of Your Revenue Comes From This | Marketing’s Pareto Principle | Efficiency Trap & The Target Is Not the Market 30.03.2025 28:05
Come holler: https://www.linkedin.com/in/braeden-matson/ https://www.growthquotient.com/
Ep. 23 | Ryan Mitchell | The Framework to Drive Massive Business Results | How to Use AI and How Not to | Optimizing Your Sales Process | Wants vs. Needs, Content Marketing Strategy and AI Frameworks 05.03.2025 44:04
My Guest: https://www.linkedin.com/in/builderofwedges/ Come holler at me: https://www.linkedin.com/in/braeden-matson/ https://www.growthquotient.com/
Ep. 22 | The Two Biggest Errors Marketers Make with Communications & Advertising | Executive Accountability, Strategy, Targeting and Measurement 20.02.2025 27:24
Come holler: https://www.linkedin.com/in/braeden-matson/ https://www.growthquotient.com/
Ep. 21 | P&L-Centric Marketing Musings | Positioning & Targeting, CEO Directives, Setting Realistic Marketing Goals 23.01.2025 10:17
Come holler: https://www.linkedin.com/in/braeden-matson/ https://www.growthquotient.com/
Ep. 20 | Brand & Performance is a False Dichotomy | Marketing Terminology, Mental & Physical Availability, Measurement & Budgeting 21.01.2025 30:39
In this episode, I discuss why I've dispensed with the "brand & performance" dichotomy and what to use instead. Give me a shout: W: https://www.growthquotient.com/ LI: https://www.linkedin.com/in/braeden-matson/
Ep. 19 | An Academic & Fractional Marketing Leader Drop GOLD | Cause & Effect, Marketing Measurement, ROI & What Business Leaders MUST Know | Auke Hunneman & Christian Hollums 09.01.2025 56:55
In this episode, I give the mic to Auke Hunneman & Christian Hollums; two incredibly smart and experienced individuals. As a marketing and business leader, this conversation is one of the most important things you'll listen to this year. We cover: Why Philosophy is relevant to marketing (it really, really is) First vs third person perspectives in business & customer centrism The mechanisti...
Ep. 18 | How to Fix a Big CAC | Why Your CAC Is Increasing | How to Diagnosis CAC Problems | Ad Fraud, ROI, CapEx. And OpEx 02.01.2025 40:43
In this episode, I go deep on CAC. Why it's high and what to do about it step by step. I also talk through ROI, the difference between a Cap. Ex and OpEx and how to think about these two in the marketing context. Give me a shout: W: https://www.growthquotient.com/ LI: https://www.linkedin.com/in/braeden-matson/
Ep. 17 | The STRAIGHT DOPE on Marketing Strategy | Marketing Strategy 101 | Small Brands vs. Big Brands | What Everyone Gets WRONG About Differentiation 20.12.2024 40:34
In this episode, I go deep on marketing strategy, what it is and how to execute one. W: https://www.growthquotient.com/ LI: https://www.linkedin.com/in/braeden-matson/
Ep. 16 | Oliver JP Osborne | How to Drive Revenue with Customer Orientation | What Companies Don't Know | Market Research Fundamentals | How to Drive Innovation with Market Orientation 18.12.2024 30:47
In this episode, I talk to Oliver JP Osborne, Founder, Consultant and market research expert. We cover powerful ground here, including: What is an “orientation” in this context? How to drive revenue with customer orientation What is market orientation? How else can you be oriented? How do you do market research at different budget levels? How to innovate in the context of market orientation (commo...
Ep. 15 | Brand Awareness Actually Means Something | Awareness, Salience & Mental Availability | The Business Case for Awareness | Demand Creation & Demand Generation | Why Demand Gen Fails 25.11.2024 29:31
There's been a lot of claims about "brand awareness" lately that are incorrect. In this episode I go deep on: • What awareness actually is • Aided vs. unaided • Awareness, salience & mental availability • Awareness & demand creation & more. Connect with me: https://www.linkedin.com/in/braeden-matson/
Ep. 14 | John James | WTF Is Brand, Why Does It Matter and How Do We Measure It | Become Your CFO’s Best Friend | 95:5 Rule, CEPs, ROI vs. Financial Payback, Segmentation & Targeting 22.11.2024 41:55
In this episode, I speak to John James, founder, consultant, speaker & marketing leader. We cover a lot of very useful ground: What a Brand is & fundamental terminology How to put strategy in place based on ARR and the importance of focus The 95:5 rule ROI vs. Financial payback Why CEP & audience research is absolutely critical to success How CEPs and Segmentation are the same thing if...
Ep. 13 | How to Use Category Entry Points (CEPs) to Grow Mental Market Share | How Mental Availability Works and Why It Matters | How Advertising Works | How to Use CEPs When You’re a Small Brand 07.11.2024 32:54
In this episode, I go deep and practical on: What mental availability is What mental market share is, how to measure it and why it matters What is a CEP? What is cued retrieval? How to find and prioritize CEPs How to use CEPs in advertising How advertising works How to budget for advertising Connect: https://www.linkedin.com/in/braeden-matson/ Website: https://www.storybookmarketing.io/
Ep. 12 | Brand Vs. Performance Isn't a Thing | How to Deploy Brand Marketing AND Direct Response Together | Why "Performance Marketing" Is the Dumbest Term Since Marketing | Financial Case for Brand 30.10.2024 25:31
Brand "vs" performance is the dumbest thing ever and needs to stop immediately. It has never been an either or, and they are not competing, antithetical forces. They aren't Cain and Abel. They are the same coin, deployed at the same time, in different proportions depending on where a business is at. They work together to produce greater business effects and profitability than doing just one. They...
Ep. 11 | How to F*ck It Up by Applying How Brands Grow Wrong | Why CEPs and Segmentation, Targeting & Positioning Can Achieve the Same Thing | Big Brands Are Not Small Brands | Ritson vs. Sharp 28.10.2024 22:05
It's possible to misapply the tenets of How Brands Grow, and CEPs vs. STP (segmentation, targeting & positioning) is not a versus after all. Connect: https://www.linkedin.com/in/braeden-matson/ https://www.storybookmarketing.io/
Ep. 10 | Back to School: What Marketing ACTUALLY Is | What Marketing Does | How to Measure Marketing | Clearing Up The Issue with ROI Once and For All | Essential Learning for Newcomers to Marketing 16.10.2024 37:30
This episode covers foundational things I didn't know for much of my career. By the end, you'll be ahead of most marketers; I guarantee it. Expect to hear: What Marketing Is What Marketing Does Why Marketing Does It How Marketing is Measured + a final (what really should be) nail in the coffin on the ROI conversation. Connect: https://www.linkedin.com/in/braeden-matson/ https://www.storybookmarket...
Ep. 9 | How to Make Outbound Sales Work Better from a Marketing Perspective | The Pitfalls of Siloed GTM | How Marketing Strategy Works with Sales 24.09.2024 19:18
Outbound sales should be part of a unified strategy that includes marketing. In this episode, we cover: How outbound usually works How outbound is part of targeting How segmentation should happen in the real world and marketing/sales alignment +more Be my guest on the pod! Connect: https://www.linkedin.com/in/braeden-matson/ https://www.storybookmarketing.io/
Ep. 7 | Creating Demand With Price?! | What Market Demand Is | Necessary Vs. Sufficient In The Context Of Price & Demand | Price Elasticity 28.08.2024 15:41
Connect with me: https://www.linkedin.com/in/braeden-matson-jones/ There is a secret way to do demand gen that no one is talking about: lower your prices. I'm kind of serious, in that 𝗶𝗳 the parameters by which you define market demand include "what consumers in a market are willing to pay for a specific good in a specific market", then yes, you can create demand by lowering prices....
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