The Bigger Game - A Podcast For Sales Leaders By Sales Leaders.

In this episode, Barnaby Howarth shares an extraordinary story of adversity, faith, resilience, and love. From chasing an AFL dream and surviving a life-altering stroke, to walking alongside his late wife through stage four cancer, Barnaby reflects on what it means to keep showing up when life turns upside down. This is a powerful conversation about grit, grief, purpose, and the quiet strength fou...

In this episode of The Pursuit of Love Podcast, Darcy and Steve explore the rapid rise of AI and what it means for the future of humanity, questioning whether technology enhances or erodes our most primal, human qualities. They discuss the growing shift between physical reality and digital worlds, the idea of “plugged vs unplugged” humans, and whether live sport, real connection and embodied exper...

Former AFL player Ryan Clarke joins The Pursuit of Love podcast to unpack his shift from professional football to tech entrepreneur. After 97 games with North Melbourne and the Sydney Swans, Clarke took a year off to travel—only to discover how difficult it was to access a gym without locking into a membership. That frustration sparked the idea for Gymgoer , a fitness app designed to give travelle...

In this episode of the Pursuit of Love podcast , Darcy and Steve dive into the rising influence of AI and why so much of it still feels soulless compared to real human connection. They explore meditation, witness consciousness, and prayer as ways to stay grounded in a noisy world—sharing personal stories of unexpected answers and quiet moments of clarity. The conversation shifts into the emotional...

This episode of The Pursuit of Love dives deep into the true meaning of strategy with business strategist Alex M H Smith . Together we explore why strategy isn’t about beating competitors at their own game, but about creating new value that only your business can bring to the world. Alex breaks down how zooming out, spotting patterns, and understanding broader industry dynamics can unlock opportun...

In this episode of The Pursuit of Love , artist Matt McMillan opens up about his creative journey, from childhood sketches and a shared friendship with the host, to the early spark that came from drawing his first Batman piece. Matt reflects on how his love of sport and movement influences his portraits, the importance of trusting the creative process (even through doubt), and the meditative flow...

In this episode of the Pursuit of Love, Steve and Darc are joined by James Allen, a futurist and strategist. Throughout the Ep the lads dive deep into the profound implications of AI on society and the workforce. James raises concerns about generative AI's potential to automate tasks that may not add value, leading to increased job competition and a shift towards vocational careers among younger g...

This week on the Pursuit of Love podcast, it’s just the boys, chatting past guests, the introduction of the 2-1 Rule and why 'simple' isn't 'dumb'. From Steve Jobs’ genius for focus to the cautionary tale of Blackberry, we unpack why simplicity wins every time. There’s even a detour into collectibles, scarcity, and why some things become priceless, all tying back to the same tr...

This week on the Pursuit of Love podcast, we’re joined by Ari Mansfield - Head of Consumer Sales at the GWS Giants. Ari’s journey has taken him from Red Bull to trampoline parks to Cricket Australia and now to one of the AFL’s boldest projects: helping build the GWS Giants from the ground up. We dive into what it takes to shape culture in an expansion club, why the Giants want to become Australia’...

This week on the Pursuit of Love podcast, Steve and Darc are joined by Jim Penman - founder of Jim’s Group and the man who turned twenty-four bucks into Australia’s biggest franchise network. Jim shares the highs, the doubts, and the deep purpose that’s fueled his journey and why success, for him, isn’t about money but about family, faith, and service. We talk tithing, meaning at work, and the big...

This week on the Pursuit of Love podcast, we sit down with former Pod Regular Dr Difff (Kenneth Crowther) to chat about humanity’s love-hate relationship with AI and why it’s not the god some people think it is. Kenneth brings his wit and wisdom to a big conversation about tech’s potential, its pitfalls, and the danger of letting it replace what really matters. From how AI shapes identity to why r...

This week on the Pursuit of Love podcast, Steve and Darc get real about what happens when business and friendships collide. Diving in on how chasing your goals can grow you as a person but sometimes cost you relationships you thought would last. From finding joy in your work to staying focused on what actually matters, this one’s equal parts honest and hopeful. Steve and Darc dig into the sting of...

This week on the Pursuit of Love podcast, Steve and Darc dive into one of the heaviest convos they've had yet. From the Israel-Iran conflict to how capitalism might need a rebrand. Unpacking the deep-rooted tensions in the Middle East, why Jerusalem holds so much weight across multiple faiths and what global unrest really stirs up for us on a personal level. Then they shift gears into business and...

This week on the Pursuit of Love podcast, Nat Hodges joins us to pull back the curtain on the personal development space - less guru/sharman vibes and more real talk. He chats about the highs and lows of coaching, why vulnerability isn’t just for Instagram captions, and how failing is a non-negotiable part of growth. From leadership lessons to emotional intelligence, it’s a mix of wisdom, wit, and...

🎙️ Episode 93 - 'One Shot' Ryder - aka Mitch Schoemaker In this episode of the Pursuit of Love podcast, we sit down with pro wrestler ‘One Shot’ Ryder - who you might also know as Mitch Schoemaker, BDM with us here at Outbound and WhyBravo. For nearly four years, Mitch kept his wrestling career a secret. Why? Fear of judgment. We dive into how he pushed past that fear, why chasing a dream...

🎙 Episode 92 – The Return: Why We Vanished, What We Learned, and What’s Next We’re back. After years of silence, The Pursuit of Love returns with a raw, honest, and deeply personal relaunch. In this episode, Steve Claydon opens up about the unexpected detour his life took through burnout, depression, and a 4-week stint in rehab. It’s a conversation about what happens when everything stops, and how...

"Taking the Leap: From High Paid Employee to Entrepreneur with Jordan Stupar" In this episode of 'The Bigger Game' podcast, we're joined by the seasoned sales veteran and visionary leader in Jordan Stupar, founder of Stupar Enterprises. Jordan shares his inspiring journey, detailing the bold transition from being a high-paid employee to embracing the path of entrepreneurship. Our conversation dive...

In this episode Darcy J Smyth and Steve Claydon , the Cofounders of Outbound chat with Ben Wright , a serial entreprenuer and 2x Fast Growth company award winner to dive into what it truly takes to grow a $40M business and lead a high performing team. Here's a snippet of Ben's story: "I was that salesperson... the one who hit every target, was high on confidence and itching to be promoted. I got t...

How do you juggle your work, family and faith? Unravelling the Leadership Enigma with Cory Rich on The Bigger Game In this thought-provoking episode of "The Bigger Game" podcast, hosted by Steve Claydon and Darcy J Smyth, founders of The Outbound Game ( https://outbound.game ), we are thrilled to welcome Cory Rich from Apex Revenue who has dedicated his career to helping individuals and organizati...

Born Leader or is that a myth? Unravelling the Leadership Enigma with Roderick Jefferson on The Bigger Game In this thought-provoking episode of "The Bigger Game" podcast, hosted by Steve Claydon and Darcy J Smyth, founders of The Outbound Game ( https://outbound.game ), we are thrilled to welcome Roderick Jefferson, a world-renowned speaker, author, and founder of Roderick Jefferson & Associa...

Welcome to The Bigger Game Podcast, where your hosts Steve Claydon and Darcy J Smyth, the founders of Outbound Game , along with Difff Crowther, Operations Manager at Outbound Game and Why Bravo, dive deep into the fascinating world of communication and leadership. In this dynamic podcast, we bring together experts from various fields to discuss the power of communication and the impact it has on...

Welcome to the new and improved 'The Bigger Game' podcast! a podcast that takes a deep dive into the untold side of sales leadership. Discover the psychology and strategy behind top-performing sales leaders, and learn how to apply these insights to your own sales organization. Expert guests share their best practices, insider tips, and stories of success, providing you with actionable takeaways to...

The boys (Difff, Darcy and Steve) are back for a hilarious 'no guest' episode. This one introduces a game anyone can play called "It's Not Kylie Minogue". We all agreed this was one of the funniest and more interesting episodes we've ever done and hope you enjoy it as much as we did putting it together. We discussed: Is there an A, B and C grade celebrity and how do you define the rules? Reflectin...

Brandon started his journey in 2003 when he entered the workforce as a socially anxious introvert. He snagged his first dedicated sales role as an Account Manager in 2006 – flooded by the chaos, fears, and doubts of trying to sell in an extroverted world. Over the years though, he managed to climb the ranks from SMB, to Mid-Market, to Enterprise sales. In 2018, Brandon came into his element when h...

In this episode, we hang out with Max Cohen (Senior Solutions Engineer @ HubSpot). Max is a Dad, Solutions Engineer & Former Product Trainer / Implementation Specialist @ HubSpot, Inbound Marketing Savage, CRM enthusiast, iOS Deployment/Management Nerd. Outside of work he plays/coaches competitive paintball, and loves dogs and his family (not in that order) We deep dive into: The power of TikT...