The Art of Relating

Rahi Chun and Ariel Szabo are somatic sex educators, sexological bodyworkers, and co-creators of Divine Union For Lovers, bringing 30+ years of combined expertise in genital de-armoring, somatic trauma repair, and erotic attunement to help couples access the depth of connection their bodies are actually capable of. We talk about what happens when sexuality gets divorced from the sacred. About the...

In this conversation I sit down with my best friend Kate Phillips — transformational performance coach, filmmaker, and guest teacher inside Awakening the Wild Woman — for one of the most honest conversations I've ever had on this podcast. We talk about how sexual trauma creates the seductress as a survival response. About the difference between seduction as a tool of survival and seduction as sove...

What does your voice have to do with the male gaze? More than you think. In this conversation, I sit down with Julie Anne Shapiro — vocal sound healer, theatre artist, ritualist, community builder and guest teacher inside Awakening the Wild Woman — to explore the profound intersection of voice, performance, and somatic healing. We talk about what it means to stop performing for the gaze and start...

I sit down with my teacher Ann Bradney, founder of Radical Aliveness, to talk about her ground-breaking work facilitating a two-year leadership training program in Israel that brings together Israeli Jews and Palestinians Within this program, Ann leads deep process groups where participants learn to hold intense emotions, face painful truths, and stay connected across seemingly impossible divides....

This isn’t a conversation about relational repair—we’re actually doing it in real time.  Kate (my best friend of 22+ years) and I hit some big ruptures this past month. We were in an intensive training together, then went straight into a retreat that I hosted at my house. We were both at our limit… and we hit three big triggers that needed to be resolved later.  In this episode, we work...

This is the other side of the story.  In this deeply honest follow-up to “Avoidant Men CAN Heal,” we hear from Brittany—somatic experiencing practitioner, attachment re-patterning guide, and James’s partner—about her lived experience navigating anxious attachment, rupture, and the long, disorienting path of healing.  We talk about what it felt like when James said “you’re not the one” in...

In this intimate, soul-bearing conversation, James Nepenthe Frank—Somatic Experiencing Practitioner, dharma teacher, and former monk—shares the journey of transforming from emotionally unavailable and intimacy avoidant to a man fully devoted to love.  We discuss the alchemy of group somatic work, radical honesty, and the quiet, relentless devotion of spiritual practice.  Together, we exp...

Catherine Quiring had me on her podcast Who We Are & What We Need to chat about the somatic path of healing, my 6-month program Awakening the Wild Woman, the role of Saints, Goddesses and archetypes like Mary Magdalene, Joan of Arc and Persephone on my path, and what has crystalized in my practice lately from my Sacred Pilgrimages.

I guide my friend Jenny into her body during a live session to explore the complicated relationship she has with money. Her body’s wisdom shows us the generational wounding that needs to be honored and healed in order for her to move forward in her life to receive abundance and reciprocity.  Apply for my 3-Month 1:1 Mentorship:   Somatic Spirit Journey   Song:   Ayla Nereo “See...

Join me for an inspiring conversation with Sara, founder of Women Rising , 15x award-winning documentary filmmaker, mentor, speaker, and soon-to-be debut author with HarperCollins. Sara is also the visionary behind the first-ever sociological study exploring the link between women’s empowerment and autoimmunity in America. In this episode, Sara shares her powerful journey from self-abandonment to...

Me and my teacher Adriana Rizzolo, founder of Body Temple Dance, nerd out about the importance of right-brain focused therapy and healing the frozen parts of us through performance, dance, song, poetry, and art. I share about my vulnerable experience singing on stage to reclaim my sacred sexuality as a pivotal part of healing from sexual trauma.    Join my 6-month program Awakening the W...

Erin and Lisa interview me on their “I Decide Darlings” podcast about my journey of healing from trauma and how it led me to help others do the same. I share my story as a child of an alcoholic, healing the mother wound, and overcoming sexual trauma, bulimia, body dysmorphia, disorganized attachment, depression, suicidal thoughts, anxiety, and low self-worth that consumed a third of my life, befor...

Join me and my BFF for life Kate as we navigate our #1 trigger - TIME. We’ve been best friends for 22 years, and we still trigger each other’s abandonment wound when it comes to this topic. In this episode, we re-count our most recent blow-ups and discuss the multitude of creative ways we’ve learned to navigate conflict resolution, including Existential Kink, Non-Violent Communication, Circling, R...

I catch up with my friend Jennifer about the similarities we are experiencing through huge shifts in our personal lives and soul-led businesses. We talk about our intuitive travels, downloads from God, and the challenges that are currently humbling us during this huge transitional phase.  Jennifer’s Offerings:   Current Offerings    Guided Creative Directory   Join my 6-mo...

Me and my friend Marsha, a feminine guide, healer, and muse dive into a juicy, vulnerable conversation about re-claiming raw sexuality, redefining relationship commitments with divine union, and how her devotion to sacred celibacy for two years was a means of self-discovery, healing, and spiritual growth.  Register for Marsha’s Sacred Celibacy Course:   Sacred Celibacy Course   Foll...

I chat with my teacher Adriana Rizzolo, founder of Body Temple Church, about healing co-dependency by taking the shame out of it and learning how to alchemize this energy through the power of story, ancestral healing, and spiritual practice.    Episode Highlights 08:20 -  Stop shaming your co-dependency 26:43 -  Healing is not about doing it “right” 54:06 - The dark night...

I guide my friend Kylee into her body during a live Somatic Spirit Session to address the emotional trauma that is at the root of her chronic gut issues. We re-write a memory from her childhood to process the impact of growing up as a child of abuse and addiction. Our exploration leads Kylee to heal generational trauma passed down from her maternal line, which helps her unlock a deep sense of empo...

Natalie Kashani interviews me for her online summit “Surviving to Thriving.” I tell my story of how I became a somatic facilitator and open up about my most recent dark night of the soul that required me to purge generations of women's pain around body-image and sexual trauma. We also connect on our shared experiences as artists and healers, and how we view trauma-healing as an art.  Episode...

Me and Melina, my soul sister and fellow somatic experiencing practitioner, talk about the impact of colonization and how we've unpacked this through our own somatic healing journeys through making sense of our Chinese heritage in a Western culture, having our definition of God taken away from us at an early age, and how we reckon with taking on traditions and practices from other cultures. &nbsp...

I have a conversation with my dear friend Lee, who co-founded the modern relationship school for women called Aligned Attraction with her partner, Ani. They guide women who are ready to take a stance of “fierce love" to cut through the illusion of unworthiness and feel deeply safe to be themselves in relationships.  Lee is one of my go-to’s to talk to when I'm trying to figure out my own dati...

In this episode I chat with my best friend Kate who I’ve known since we were 13 years old. We learn from each other by showing up as non-experts to discuss what it means to be self-led in the Age of Aquarius, implementing non-violent communication into our daily lives, how the conflict in Israel and Palestine is affecting us, and what activism means to us personally, away from all of the social me...

Welcome to the first episode of The Art of Relating. My dear friend Zori and I talk about Authentic Relating and the practice of Circling. She helps me workshop my way through some intense moments of freeze when it comes to communicating while dating consciously. Get ready to ignite your soul and discover a new level of connection.  Episode Highlights   03:17 - For the first time in my l...

Welcome to the Art of Relating podcast, where I’m figuring out life, asking questions, becoming present with the unknown, and navigating the Mystery with my dear friends.   We explore the healing journey through my favorite topics like the nervous system, trauma, somatics, spirituality, psychology, and authentic relating.  My mission is to empower you to discover what works best for...