Aledade Inc
The ACO Show
The ACO Show explores the latest developments in the U.S. health care system, with a focus on value-based care and accountable care organizations (ACOs). Join co-hosts Josh Israel, MD, senior medical director of Quality, and Sean Cavanaugh, chief of Policy at Aledade, in conversations with experts, policymakers and clinicians to understand how value-based care is good for patients, practices and society. The ACO Show is produced by Aledade.
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Episodes
Inside MedPAC: MSSP vs. Medicare Advantage with Michael Chernew | Episode 204 06.07.2026 19:38
Michael Chernew, PhD, professor of healthcare policy at Harvard Medical School, joins Josh Israel, MD, and Sean Cavanaugh to discuss the Medicare Payment Advisory Commission (MedPAC) and its role in the Medicare program, including Medicare Advantage (MA) and the Medicare Shared Savings Program (MSSP). Dr. Chernew, who served as MedPAC chair from 2020-2026, shares how MedPAC provides evidence-based...
Driving Healthcare Innovation with Halle Tecco | Episode 203 01.06.2026 23:35
Halle Tecco, author of the book “Massively Better Healthcare: The Innovator's Guide to Tackling Healthcare's Biggest Challenges,” joins Josh Israel, MD, and Sean Cavanaugh on the podcast to discuss ways to improve the healthcare system through innovation. Tecco shares that a very important focus is on alignment, not only between margin and mission, but in figuring out how to engage patients with n...
202. The Future of AI in Primary Care: Jacob Shiff on the ACCESS Model 11.05.2026 26:34
Jacob Shiff, chief AI and technology officer at the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services Innovation Center (CMMI), joins Josh Israel, MD, and Sean Cavanaugh to dive deeper into the Advancing Chronic Care with Effective, Scalable Solutions (ACCESS) Model . The model focuses on improving patient outcomes while encouraging clinicians to utilize technology-enabled solutions to deliver personaliz...
201. The North Carolina State Health Plan Preferred Provider Strategy with Treasurer Brad Briner 07.04.2026 16:37
Brad Briner, North Carolina state treasurer, and Alex Mullineaux, Aledade regional market president, join Josh Israel, MD, and Sean Cavanaugh to discuss the state health plan’s new preferred provider strategy. The goal of this approach is to improve patient health outcomes and reduce costs by connecting patients with clinicians that have a proven record of high-quality, cost-effective care. Treas...
200. Vaccine Schedule Changes: Paul Offit, MD, Shares Everything You Need to Know 02.03.2026 19:29
Paul Offit, MD, director of the Vaccine Education Center at the Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia, joins Josh Israel, MD, and Sean Cavanaugh to discuss the recent decision by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) to move several vaccines (including rotavirus, influenza and COVID-19) from a universal recommendation to shared clinical decision-making. While shared clinical decision...
199. Navigating Leukemia: One Patient’s Experience 17.02.2026 34:14
Amelia Knopp and her father, Ryan Knopp, MD, from Stone Creek Family Physicians in Manhattan, Kansas, join Josh Israel, MD, and Sean Cavanaugh to discuss Amelia’s experience with the health care system following a shocking leukemia diagnosis. They share how this diagnosis set Amelia and their family on a journey that they describe as “health care at its best.” Amelia emphasizes the importance of t...
198. The CMMI ACCESS Model explained 05.01.2026 26:28
Catherine Olexa-Meadors, head of growth and partnerships at Town Hall Ventures, joins Josh Israel, MD, and Sean Cavanaugh to discuss the recently announced ACCESS (Advancing Chronic Care with Effective, Scalable Solutions) Model from the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Innovation (CMMI), also known as the CMS Innovation Center. They explain the new payment system, which includes outcome-aligned p...
197. The Future of Primary Care with Shawn Martin 01.12.2025 30:10
Shawn Martin, executive vice president and CEO of the American Academy of Family Physicians (AAFP), joins Josh Israel, MD, and Sean Cavanaugh to discuss challenges with the future of primary care, particularly independent primary care practices. Martin believes that value-based care has helped sustain rural health care practices and that the Medicare Shared Savings Program (MSSP) will serve as the...
196. What is the National Committee for Quality Assurance (NCQA)? with Margaret E. O’Kane 03.11.2025 27:52
Margaret E. O’Kane, CEO, president and founder of the National Committee for Quality Assurance (NCQA), joins Joshua Israel, MD and Sean Cavanaugh to discuss how the organization has helped transform quality measurement in the American health care system. Over the past 35 years, O'Kane and the NCQA have developed quality measurement standards for clinicians while striving to minimize the administra...
195. Unlocking Independence for Primary Care Clinicians 06.10.2025 21:41
Join Josh Israel, MD, and Sean Cavanaugh, along with Brittney Anderson, MD, family physician and podcaster ( “Physicians Hanging a Shingle” ) and Dan Bowles, general manager of practice health at Aledade, to discuss Anderson’s journey to owning her own private practice, and how she supports other physicians seeking independence. Both Anderson and Bowles believe value-based care is crucial for inde...
194. 2024 MSSP Results with Farzad Mostashari, MD and Sandeep Mann, MD 15.09.2025 26:33
Join Josh Israel, MD and Sean Cavanaugh in their video debut as they discuss the Medicare Shared Savings Program (MSSP) results for 2024 released by CMS with Aledade CEO Farzad Mostashari, MD They explore how Aledade Accountable Care Organizations (ACOs) earned more than $1 billion in total savings and continue to improve performance year over year, including substantially reducing hospitalization...
193. Breaking down CMMI’s new strategy with Abe Sutton and Farzad Mostashari, M.D. 28.07.2025 34:58
Abe Sutton, director of the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Innovation (CMMI), sits down with Aledade CEO Farzad Mostashari, M.D., and Sean Cavanaugh to unpack the new strategic framework for CMMI models. Sutton explores CMMI’s focus on three pillars: promoting evidence-based prevention, improving patient access to their health data and driving choice and competition in health care markets. He di...
192. The Road Show: What makes a good ACO partner? 23.07.2025 14:57
Join Josh Israel and Sean Cavanaugh for part two of their most recent road trip visiting primary care practices from Los Angeles to Washington D.C. First, they visited Dr. Arvinder Bir and Dr. Seema Bir, Aledade partners in California, to discuss how Aledade has helped enable their practice to reduce patient hospitalizations and remain independent. Next, they visited Varesh Chaurasia, CEO of Healt...
191. Road Show Reflections with Farzad Mostashari, M.D. and Mat Kendall 07.07.2025 18:40
Aledade CEO Farzad Mostashari, M.D., and Mat Kendall, president, join Josh Israel and Sean Cavanaugh to share insights from their recent road trip to primary care practices from Los Angeles to Washington D.C. They reflect how conversations about value-based care have evolved over the past 11 years — and what organizations are trying to learn when deciding whether to join an accountable care organi...
190. The Rising Cost of Skin Substitutes with Dr. Caroline Fife and Dr. Christopher Apostol 09.06.2025 27:02
Dr. Caroline Fife and Dr. Christopher Apostol join us to explore the rising cost of skin substitutes in wound care, which Aledade data suggests is a tenfold increase in the last three years. Dr. Fife explains that rising costs are due to an increase in both cost of the product and increased usage and she addresses the real concerns such as the way many skin substitutes are exempt from FDA review,...
189. Do ACOs Really Save Money? Dr. Amelia Bond and Dr. Dhruv Khullar Explain 27.05.2025 24:12
Dr. Amelia Bond and Dr. Dhruv Khullar join us to discuss the long-term savings of accountable care organizations (ACOs) in the Medicare Shared Savings Program (MSSP). Their recent study in JAMA found that ACOs generate increasing savings over time, with physician-led ACOs demonstrating more significant savings. Learn about their study’s methodology, policy implications for The Centers of Medicare...
188. Natalie Davis on Why You Shouldn’t Talk about Value-Based Care 19.05.2025 22:23
Natalie Davis, CEO of United States of Care, joins us to talk about the challenges of discussing value-based care with patients and policymakers. Through extensive research with over 30,000 individuals, Davis shares that the term "value-based care" often evokes negative connotations of low-quality care. When presented with the benefits of value-based care without using the term itself, people were...
187. Behavioral Health Care Accessibility 21.04.2025 26:26
A majority of those with behavioral health challenges lack access to high-quality care. Gabe Diop, co-founder of Rula, a behavioral health physician group, joins the ACO Show to discuss how Rula is making behavioral health care more accessible by partnering with primary care practices to connect patients with the care they need. Dr. Samantha Cotler, family medicine physician in Wall, N.J., explain...
186. How International Medical Graduates Help Ease the US Physician Shortage 07.04.2025 19:50
The U.S. faces a significant shortage of primary care physicians, particularly in rural and under-resourced communities. Join Eli Greenspan, policy advisor at Foley Hoag LLP, and Dan Bowles, general manager of Practice Health Solutions at Aledade, to highlight the role that international medical graduates play in addressing this shortage. They explain the complex process that international medical...
185. Crossing the Chasm in Value-Based Care with Farzad Mostashari, M.D., and Geoffrey Moore 20.03.2025 29:35
Aledade CEO, Dr. Farzad Mostashari, and best-selling author Geoffrey Moore explore how the concepts in Moore’s influential book, “Crossing the Chasm” can be applied to accelerate adoption of value-based care. In order to move to mainstream adoption, it’s crucial to focus on the niche market of “pragmatists in pain” who have an urgent need that the current system isn’t solving. Our co-host Sean Cav...
184. Bias and Equity with Artificial Intelligence in Health Care 10.03.2025 19:40
Join us this episode as our guests from Aledade, Dennis Liubyvyi, Director of Artificial Intelligence (AI) Research, and Jette Henderson, Staff AI Researcher, explain the world of AI and machine learning and its potentially transformative impact on health care. Dennis shares how AI models at Aledade are reshaping patient care by analyzing vast amounts of patient data to predict critical health eve...
183. Cardiology and Value-Based Care 24.02.2025 21:41
Dr. Sameer Sheth, President and Co-Founder of Chamber Cardio, joins Josh and Sean to discuss the opportunities and challenges for specialists, particularly cardiologists, in transitioning to value-based care. Dr. Sheth notes that cardiologists have traditionally been slower to adopt value-based care because of a lack of financial incentives, but an increasing drive to remain independent is pushing...
182. Patient and Caregiver Experiences in Value-Based Care 10.02.2025 25:49
Join Melanie Phelps, Senior Advocacy Advisor for Health System Transformation at the American Heart Association (AHA), to discuss her recent research which explores the impact of ACO-driven value-based care from the patient and caregiver perspectives. Melanie explores the overwhelmingly positive results of the study, which found that patients and their caregivers experienced better care, better su...
181. Nursing in Value-Based Care 27.01.2025 21:55
Value-based care is a team effort, and nurses play a crucial role in coordinating care to achieve better and more efficient patient outcomes. Jacqueline Nikpour, Assistant Professor at the Emory University School of Nursing, and Kathy Samhammer, LPN at Cedar Ridge Family Medicine, join us to discuss the role of nurses in primary care, and how practices can maximize nurses’ contributions in the shi...
180. Transforming End-of-Life Care with Comprehensive Advance Care Planning (CACP) 13.01.2025 24:50
Comprehensive Advance Care Planning (CACP) supports individuals in understanding and sharing their values and goals for medical care at the end of life. Kerri Petrin, Vice President and Head of Operations at Aledade Plus, joins us to explore how the CACP program allows patients and their loved ones to have guided, personalized conversations with clinical facilitators and generate legal documents s...
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