That Said With Michael Zeldin

      Event Overview Join Michael Zeldin as he speaks with CNN Legal Analyst Asha Rangappa and MSNBC Legal Analyst Glenn Kirschner as they discuss the legal issues faced by former President Trump and his ecosystem. Topics will include Trump’s attacks on the social media companies which banned him from their platforms, the criminal indictment and continuing investigation of Weisselberg and the Trum...

  Join Michael Zeldin in his conversation with Beatriz Williams, author of Our Woman in Moscow,  a historical fiction  of Cold War espionage and family devotion, loosely inspired by the Cambridge spy ring. Guest Beatriz Williams Beatriz Williams is the New York Times, USA Today, and internationally bestselling author of Our Woman in Moscow, The Summer Wives, Her Last Flight, The Golden Hour, The S...

  Join Michael Zeldin for this timely conversation of anti-Asian racism with Daniel James Brown as they discuss his book, Facing the Mountain: A True Story of Japanese American Heroes in World War II: a compelling saga of patriotism, highlighting the contributions and sacrifices that Japanese Americans and their families made for the sake of the country and the world.  Guest Daniel James Brown I g...

  Join Michael Zeldin for this important conversation on race in America with Don Lemon as they discuss his book, This Is The Fire: What I Say to My Friends About Racism. This frank conversation addresses the root causes of systemic racism and the steps that must be taken to eradicate it: Commitment, forbearance, and hard work. In recognition of Juneteenth, CommPRO & The Museum of Public Relat...

  Join Michael Zeldin for Part II of his interview with CNN anchor and media analyst Brian Stelter on his best-seller, HOAX: Donald Trump, Fox News, and the Dangerous Distortion of Truth. Even before the Trump administration, communicators have long been intrigued by the curious friendship forged by conservative commentators with conservatives in government. But this was the first administration w...

  About Join Michael Zeldin as he interviews CNN anchor and media analyst Brian Stelter on his best-seller, HOAX: Donald Trump, Fox News, and the Dangerous Distortion of Truth. Even before the Trump administration, communicators have long been intrigued by the curious friendship forged by conservative commentators with conservatives in government. But this was the first administration where the fr...

Join Michael Zeldin in his conversation with Jake Tapper, Lead Washington Anchor for CNN, and host of the weekday television news show The Lead with Jake Tapper and co-host of the Sunday morning public affairs program State of the Union as they discuss his new book, The Devil May Dance, Jake’s follow-up to his New York Times bestseller, The Hellfire Club. Follow Charlie and Margaret Marder as they...

The template for the renewed battle against the Taliban in Afghanistan may well be found in Gayle Tzemach Lemmon’s book, The Daughters of Kobani: A Story of Rebellion, Courage, and Justice, (2021): the story of how the all-women’s Syrian Kurdish militia (YPJ) defeated ISIS and left in its wake the most far-reaching experiment in women’s justice and equality in their corner of the Middle East and b...

  Join Michael Zeldin as he interviews Peter Baker and Susan Glasser– authors of “The Man Who Ran Washington: the Life and Times of James Baker III,” a chief of staff and secretary of state for 25 years, an era when Washington was regarded as the world’s political center.  The authors will discuss how Baker’s legacy compares with the current officials in DC and lessons we can learn about the admin...

  Join Michael Zeldin in his conversation with Anna Sale host of the WNYC podcast Death, Sex and Money and author of the new book, Let’s Talk about Hard Things as they discuss big questions about death, family, sex, and money that are too often left out of polite, everyday conversation. Listen as they explore ways to talk about the things we think about a lot but need to talk about more. Guest Ann...

  Join Michael Zeldin for this important conversation with Bakari Sellers. Named one of Time Magazine’s 40 under 40, Sellers became the youngest-ever African American elected official when sworn into the South Carolina State Legislature at the age of 22 in 2006.  After earning a BA at Morehouse and JD at the Univ. of South Carolina, Sellers has taken up the causes of his father, Dr. Cleveland Sell...

    Join Michael Zeldin in his conversation with Mark Salter, Author of The Luckiest Man: Life with John McCain. Salter collaborated with John McCain on all seven of their books, including The Restless Wave, Faith of My Fathers, Worth the Fighting For, Why Courage Matters, Character Is Destiny, Hard Call, and Thirteen Soldiers.  He served on Senator McCain’s staff for eighteen years. Guest Mark Sa...

There can be no question but that Abraham Lincoln embodies the best of what America can be and thus his wisdom endures. Join me and Professor Michael Gerhardt as we explore how Lincoln became Lincoln and what he can still teach us on this 156th anniversary of his assassination. Guest Professor Michael J. Gerhardt, Burton Craige Distinguished Professor of Jurisprudence at the University of North Ca...

Join Michael Zeldin in his conversation with Ron Brownstein, Senior Editor at the Atlantic and CNN senior political analyst, as they discuss his new book, Rock Me on the Water which examines how politics and culture intertwined to reshape American life in the transition from the optimism of the 1960s to the reality of the early 1970s. Ron Brownstein is a two-time finalist for the Pulitzer Prize fo...

Watch On-Demand Video   Watch On-Demand Video Throughout their history, Asians in America have faced massive racial discrimination from indentured servitude to exclusion laws through internment during World War II. Asian Americans continue to face ongoing discrimination in myriad ways. The Atlanta spa murders, while a grotesque manifestation of this history, is sadly not an isolated event. Join Mi...

The “Choose to Challenge” theme for International Women’s Day and Women’s History month challenges us, men and women alike, to confront biases, question stereotypes, and celebrate the achievements of women around the world. Change comes from challenge and a challenged world is an alert world. But, implementing strategies that will make those changes a reality takes a lot of work. Join the discussi...

  Join Michael Zeldin as he speaks with CNN Anchor and Chief Domestic Correspondent Jim Acosta, to hear details of history’s most unconventional presidency and its unprecedented relationship with the DC press corps. Acosta, considered one of the nation’s foremost political correspondents, will reveal the backstories the public has yet to hear about the Trump White House and its contentious dealing...

 John Dean, best known for his treatise on Richard M. Nixon joins Michael Zeldin to discuss his recent psychological investigation into the psyche and personality of former President Donald J. Trump. Dean has partnered with Bob Altemeyer, a professor of psychology whose expertise is the study of authoritarianism, to see why Trump’s base is so faithful to him, no matter what he does. Why do evangel...

  Michael Steele, former Lt. Governor of Maryland, RNC Chairman, political analyst for MSNBC and the host of the Michael Steele Podcast joins host Michael Zeldin to discuss issues of race, impeachment, and the future of the Republican Party. Guest Michael Steele When he was elected Lt. Governor of Maryland in 2003, Michael Steele made history as the first African American elected to statewide offi...

    Douglas Brinkley, Rice University Professor of Humanities and History and CNN Presidential historian, joins host Michael Zeldin to discuss how history will assess the Trump presidency and Trumpism, the rise in domestic terrorism and censorship in social media during Trump’s tenure, and the relationship between Congress and the Biden administration. Guest Douglas Brinkley Douglas Brinkley is th...

  Former U.S. Attorney Chuck Rosenberg joins host Michael Zeldin as they deconstruct the case "for" and "against" impeachment of former President Donald Trump on the latest episode of THAT SAID WITH MICHAEL ZELDIN. Guest Chuck Rosenberg, Former U.S. Attorney Chuck Rosenberg held numerous senior positions in the United States Department of Justice –as the United States Attorney in b...

  Joe Lockhart, White House Press Secretary under President Bill Clinton, and Former Congressman Charlie Dent, Pennsylvania's 15th Congressional District. join Michael Zeldin for this timely conversation about the second impeachment of Donald J. Trump. Guests Joe Lockhart, White House Press Secretary under President Bill Clinton Joe Lockhart is perhaps best known for his service as White House...

  Join THAT SAID podcast host Michael Zeldin for this timely conversation about the second impeachment of Donald J. Trump.  Michael's guests are Congressman Eric Swalwell, House Impeachment Manager, and Professor Michael J. Gerhardt, Burton Craige Distinguished Professor of Jurisprudence at the University of North Carolina School of Law.   Guests Congressman Eric Swalwell Growing up in what no...

  Join Michael Zeldin in his conversation with The Washington Post Chief Correspondent Dan Balz as they break down the recent presidential election and discuss how Joe Biden won and the specific challenges that await the Biden administration and the country more broadly.  What message does this send about the United States on the global stage?  What is the impact on main street and Wall Street? Gu...