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That Said With Michael Zeldin
That Said, is a weekly series that will take a comprehensive look at the ideas, events, and people who shape our world. Led by TV legal and political analyst Michael Zeldin, his candid conversations with bestselling authors, thought leaders, and opinion-makers will explore their ideas to help move us forward as a community and as a country. Proudly presented by CommPRO and the Museum of Public Relations.
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A Conversation with Julian Zelizer, Author, ‘Abraham Joshua Heschel, A Life of Radical Amazement’ 09.03.2022 58:03
Join Michael Zeldin as he speaks with Princeton historian Julian Zelizer about his book, Abraham Joshua Heschel, A Life of Radical Amazement. In his lifetime, Rabbi Heschel helped to carve out space for progressive religious voices on the national and international stage in the civil rights, anti-war, and religious freedom movements. Coretta Scott King, called Heschel “one of the great men of...
A Conversation with John Avlon, Author, ‘Lincoln and the Fight for Peace’ 01.03.2022 1:07:30
Join me and John Avlon as we discuss his book Lincoln and the Fight for Peace . This is an important account of Lincoln’s plan to win the peace after the Civil War. It is a fascinating account of Lincoln’s vision and leadership. This vision inspired future presidents and offers important lessons for lawmakers and citizens alike in our current times. Guest John Avlon John Avlon is an author, colu...
A Conversation with Dante Stewart, Author, ‘Shouting In The Fire, An American Epistle’ 16.02.2022 1:05:16
Join me and Danté Stewart as we discuss his new memoir, Shouting In The Fire, An American Epistle an important account of lived experience growing up in rural South Carolina, his time ministering to a predominantly white evangelical congregation, his journey out of that church, and into a liberating pursuit of faith that speaks truth to pain and trauma as a Black man in America. Guest Danté Stew...
A Conversation with Brian Karem, Author, FREE THE PRESS: THE DEATH OF AMERICAN JOURNALISM AND HOW TO REVIVE IT 02.02.2022 1:20:19
Join me and Brian Karem as we discuss his new book, FREE THE PRESS: THE DEATH OF AMERICAN JOURNALISM AND HOW TO REVIVE IT which analyzes the erosion of the trust of the press and asks two critical questions: How did we get here? And, most importantly, how do we fix it before it’s too late? Karem brings 40 years of journalistic experience to this discussion and a laser focus on the importance of...
A Conversation with Allison Moorer, Author, ‘I Dreamed He Talks to Me, A Memoir of Listening How to Listen’ 26.01.2022 54:50
Join me and Allison Moorer as we discuss her new memoir, I Dreamed He Talks to Me, A Memoir of Learning How to Listen a profoundly moving account of parenting her autistic son, John Henry. Moorer brings voice to what it means to love and support someone she may never understand and offers important life lessons of compassion and understanding all readers will benefit from. Guest Allison Moorer A...
A Conversation with Professor Farah Jasmine Griffin, Author, ‘Read Until You Understand, The Profound Wisdom of Black Life and Literature’ 19.01.2022 1:04:27
Join me and Professor Griffin as we discuss her new book, Read Until You Understand, The Profound Wisdom of Black Life and Literature which explores timeless values that guide us, reminding us of our responsibility to ourselves and others as it also encourages us to learn the bitter truths of our history as well as the transcendent beauty and humanity of some of our responses to it. Guest Professo...
A Conversation with The Honorable Judge LaDoris Hazzard Cordell, Author, ‘Her Honor, My Life on the Bench…What’s Broken and How to Change It’ 12.01.2022 1:18:00
Join me and The Honorable Judge LaDoris Hazzard Cordell as we discuss her new memoir, Her Honor, My Life on the Bench… What’s Broken and How to Change It. This frank and honest memoir recounts Judge Cordell’s experiences over nearly two decades on the bench. At the time of her appointment, she became the first African American woman jurist in Northern California. She also has served as the vice...
A Conversation with Michael Tubbs, Author, ‘The Deeper the Roots, A Memoir of Hope and Home.’ 23.12.2021 1:01:46
Join me and Michael Tubbs as we discuss his new memoir, The Deeper the Roots, A Memoir of Hope and Home. This astonishing memoir traces Michael’s upbringing in Stockton, CA at a time when it was one of the most violent cities in America through his scholarship to attend Stanford University and onto his becoming the youngest elected Mayor in California history at the age of 26. With candor and cl...
A Conversation with Dara Horn, Author, ‘People Love Dead Jews, Reports from a Haunted Present’ 15.12.2021 1:10:45
Join me and Dara Horn as we discuss her new book, People Love Dead Jews, Reports from a Haunted Present , described as a startling and profound exploration of how the different ways we commemorate Jewish history, whether through Jewish heritage sites, Holocaust fiction or the Anne Frank House, is exploited to comfort the living more than to honor Jewish life. Dara is the author of 5 novels...
A Conversation with Michael Ignatieff, Author, ‘On Consolation: Finding Solace in Dark Times’ 08.12.2021 1:12:05
Join me and Michael Ignatieff as we discuss his new book, On Consolation: Finding Solace in Dark Times. On Consolation offers a two thousand year look at how humankind struggled with and endeavored to find consolation in its darkest hours. In a series of essays from the books of Job and Psalms through Dante and Albert Camus concluding with Dr. Cicely Saunders, the founder of the modern hospice m...
A Conversation with Kirsten Powers, Author, ‘Saving Grace: Speak Your Truth, Stay Centered, Learn to Coexist with People Who Drive You Nuts’ 17.11.2021 54:43
Join me and Kirsten Powers as we discuss her new and inspiring book, Saving Grace: Speak Your Truth, Stay Centered, Learn to Coexist with People Who Drive You Nuts . Saving Grace offers a compelling prescription for navigating the times in which we find ourselves. Grace, Kirsten compellingly, argues is what makes human coexistence possible. Kirsten is a USA Today columnist and a senior politic...
A Conversation with CNN’s Dr. Sanjay Gupta, Author, ‘World War C: Lessons from the Covid-19 Pandemic and How to Prepare for the Next One 10.11.2021 56:17
Join me and Dr. Sanjay Gupta as we discuss his new and very important book, World War C, Lesson from the Covid-19 Pandemic and How to Prepare for the Next One which addresses many of the most important issues arising out of the pandemic: Why weren’t we ready? What went wrong/right? Pandemics are here to stay; how are we preparing for the future? What are the lessons that need to be learned and ope...
A Conversation with Andrea Williams, Author, ‘Baseball’s Leading Lady: Effa Manley and the Rise and Fall of the Negro Leagues’ & Special Guest, Bob Kendrick, President of the Negro Leagues Baseball Museum 03.11.2021 1:11:00
Guests Andrea Williams Andrea Williams is an author, journalist and editor. Prior to turning to writing full-time she worked in marketing and development for the Negro Leagues Baseball Museum. Besides her book, Baseball’s Leading Lady, Effa Manley and the Rise and Fall of the Negro Leagues. Andrea is the best-selling author of the children’s book, We Are Family co-authored with Lebron James. She...
A Conversation with Stevie Van Zandt, Author, ‘Unrequited Infatuations’ 26.10.2021 1:13:44
Stevie Van Zandt while, perhaps, best known as a founding member of Bruce Springsteen’s E Street band and leader of Little Steven and the Disciples of Soul, he is also a writer, producer, actor (having starred in the Sopranos and Lilyhammer), radio host on Sirius/XM’s Little Steven’s Underground garage, political activist, founder of TeachRock.org, and much more. He is also a member of the Rock...
Breast Cancer Awareness Month Special Edition with Ali Rogin and Dr. Felice Gersh 21.10.2021 1:08:35
Every October, the nation observes National Breast Cancer Awareness Month. According to the National Breast Cancer Foundation, 1 in 8 women will develop invasive breast cancer in their lifetime and new breast cancer diagnoses are expected to number more than 200,000 for women and more than 2,000 for men for the coming year. To help bring greater awareness of the disease, join Michael Zeldin in t...
A Conversation with Luke Epplin, Author, ‘Our Team: The Epic Story of Four Men and the World Series that Changed Baseball’ 13.10.2021 1:00:26
Join Michael Zeldin in his conversation with Luke Epplin as they discuss his new book, Our Team, The Epic Story of Four Men and the World Series that Changed Baseball. This is a compelling story of the integration of the American League eleven weeks after Jackie Robinson integrated the National League and the improbable union of four baseball pioneers on the Cleveland Indians climaxing in the Wo...
A Conversation with David W. Blight, Sterling Professor of American History at Yale University 04.10.2021 1:10:44
Frederick Douglas was the “prose poet of America’s (and perhaps a universal) body politic. He searched for the human soul, envisioned through slavery and freedom in all their meanings. There had been no other voice quite like Douglass’s.” Join me and Professor David Blight as we discuss his Pulitzer Prize winning biography, Frederick Douglass, Prophet of Freedom. The lessons Douglass taught abou...
PART TWO: A Conversation with Jason Miller, Communications Strategist and Former Trump Spokesman on the 2020 Presidential Election, the Big Lie, and the Events of January 6th 29.09.2021 1:09:00
Join Michael Zeldin in a conversation with Jason Miller, communications strategist and spokesman for former president Donald Trump as the review the presidential election of 2020, the Big Lie, and the events of January 6, 2021. Click hereto listen to PART ONE of this two-part season premiere. Guest Jason Miller CEO, GETTR Former Senior Advisor, Donald J. Trump, 45th President of the United Sta...
PART ONE: A Conversation with Jason Miller, CEO of the Social Media Company GETTR, on Issues of Free Speech and Social Media Censorship 22.09.2021 51:45
In our inaugural episodes of season two, we begin with a two-part interview with Jason Miller. Jason is an American communications strategist, political advisor and CEO of GETTR, a conservative social network alternative to Twitter. Jason is, perhaps, best known as the chief spokesman for the Donald Trump 2016 presidential campaign and transition of former President Trump. In this episode we wil...
Season One Finale: A Conversation with Max Weinberg, Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame drummer from Bruce Springsteen’s E Street Band 31.08.2021 1:40:44
Join Michael Zeldin for this extraordinary 90-minute conversation with Max Weinberg, Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame drummer from Bruce Springsteen’s E Street Band, as they discuss Max’s musical career, his thoughts on music and drumming, his recollections of other great drummers, especially the late Rolling Stones drummer Charlie Watts, and much more. Guest Max Weinberg, Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame d...
A Conversation with Professor Eddie S. Glaude, Jr., Author, ‘Begin Again, James Baldwin’s America and Its Urgent Lessons for Our Own’ 19.08.2021 1:05:01
Join Michael Zeldin in his conversation with Professor Eddie Glaude, Jr., the James S. McDonnell Distinguished Professor of African American Studies at Princeton University and author of Begin Again, James Baldwin’s America and Its Urgent Lessons for Our Own. The writings of James Baldwin and Dr. Glaude’s elicitation of the important lessons they have to teach us about the aftertimes in which we...
A Conversation with Philip Rucker and Carol Leonnig, Authors, ‘I Alone Can Fix It, Donald J. Trump’s Catastrophic Final Year’ 12.08.2021 57:55
Join Michael Zeldin in a conversation with Philip Rucker and Carol Leonnig, Authors ofI Alone Can Fix It, Donald J. Trump's Catastrophic Final Year: a compelling analysis of former President Trump’s final year in office as he struggled to lead the nation through the worst pandemic in a century. Rucker and Leonnig recount the pandemic debates within the Administration as well as provide insig...
A Conversation with Dan Abrams Author, ‘Kennedy’s Avenger: Assassination, Conspiracy, and the Forgotten Trial of Jack Ruby’ 04.08.2021 1:01:06
Join Michael Zeldin in a conversation with Dan Abrams, Author, Kennedy's Avenger: Assassination, Conspiracy, and the Forgotten Trial of Jack Ruby. They will explore the twists and turns of one of the most publicized and surprising criminal trials in U.S. history. Guest Dan Abrams Dan Abrams is the CEO and Founder of Abrams Media and the Chief Legal Affairs Anchor for ABC News and was previou...
A Conversation with April Ryan, Author, ‘At Mama’s Knee, Mothers and Race in Black and White’ 30.07.2021 53:26
Join Michael Zeldin in a conversation with April Ryan, White House Correspondent & Washington Bureau Chief for TheGrio, Political Analyst for CNN and Author, At Mama’s Knee, Mothers and Race in Black and White. They take a deep dive into April's latest book and what’s going on in America today with the debates over voter suppression and critical race theory. Guest April Ryan April can b...
A Conversation with Julian Zelizer, Author, ‘Burning Down the House: Newt Gingrich, The Fall of a Speaker, And the Rise of the New Republican Party’ 16.07.2021 1:03:34
Join Michael Zeldin in a conversation with Princeton historian, Julian Zelizer, about his book, Burning Down the House: Newt Gingrich, The Fall of a Speaker, and the Rise of the New Republican Party . In Burning Down the House, Zelizer pinpoints the moment when Gingrich began steering our country onto a path of bitter partisanship and ruthless politics — which culminated in the election of Do...
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