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That Said With Michael Zeldin
That Said, is a weekly series that will take a comprehensive look at the ideas, events, and people who shape our world. Led by TV legal and political analyst Michael Zeldin, his candid conversations with bestselling authors, thought leaders, and opinion-makers will explore their ideas to help move us forward as a community and as a country. Proudly presented by CommPRO and the Museum of Public Relations.
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Reviving the Artist Who Fought Hitler | Irvin Ungar and Guest Co-host Philip Eliasoph 03.07.2026 1:20:57
Join Michael in his conversation with Irvin Ungar about his new book Reviving the Artist Who Fought Hitler, My Life with Arthur Szyk which tells the story of his journey from pulpit rabbi to the world’s foremost authority of the artist who became America’s leading anti-Nazi artist. Irvin has devoted the past three decades to scholarship on Arthur Szyk. He is the author of Justice Illuminated: The...
Riding For America | Nancy Hays 06.06.2026 1:01:15
Join Michael in his conversation with Nancy Hays about her new young reader’s book Riding for America, The Story of Isaac Murphy, Sports Icon of the 19th Century which tells the story of the most storied and yet forgotten African American jockey of all time. Nancy received her bachelor’s degree from University of Illinois in Urbana and master’s degree from Northwestern University. She founded Nanc...
The Women's Orchestra of Auschwitz | Anne Sebba 01.06.2026 1:06:58
Join Michael in his conversation with Anne Sebba about her new book The Women’s Orchestra of Auschwitz, A Story of Survival which tells the story of a group of almost fifty women and girls from eleven nations who were drafted into band to entertain their Nazi guards and further torture their fellow inmates. Anne Sebba is a prizewinning biographer, lecturer, and former Reuters foreign correspondent...
Lynne Olson | The Sisterhood of Ravensbrück 23.05.2026 57:14
Join Michael in his conversation with Lynne Olson about her new book The Sisterhood of Ravensbrück, How an Intrepid Band of Frenchwomen Resisted the Nazis in Hitler’s All-Female Concentration Camp which tells the remarkable story of these women who joined forces to defy their German captures and keep one another alive. Lynne Olson is a New York Times bestselling author of ten books focusing on uns...
Nina Willner | The Boys in the Light 08.05.2026 55:33
Join Michael in his conversation with Nina Willner about her new book, The Boys in the Light, An Extraordinary World War II Story of Survival, Faith, and Brotherhood which tells the parallel stories of the American soldiers of Company D and their march across Europe and that of her Jewish family caught in the horrors of Nazi German. Nina Willner is an American nonfiction author, a former US Army...
Graydon Carter | When the Going Was Good 24.04.2026 1:10:00
Join Michael in his conversation with Graydon Carter about his memoir When the Going was Good, An Editor’s Adventures During the Last Golden Age of Magazines which documents his life and storied journalism career including his twenty-five years as the award-winning editor of Vanity Fair. Graydon Carter is the founder of Air Mail. Before this, he was a staff writer for both Time and Life. He cocrea...
Elliot Williams | Five Bullets 10.04.2026 1:11:23
Join Michael in his conversation with Elliot Williams about his new book Five Bullets, The Story of Bernie Goetz, New York’s Explosive ’80s, and the Subway Vigilante Trial that Divided the Nation which explores the riveting events surrounding the shooting of four Black teenagers by a white man on a NY subway car. Elliot Williams was a Deputy Assistant Attorney General for legislative affairs at th...
When Caesar Was King | David Margolick 27.03.2026 1:33:33
Join Michael in his conversation with David Margolick about his new book When Caesar Was King, How Sid Ceasar Reinvented American Comedy which chronicles the life and times of Sid Caesar who, essentially, invented sketch comedy for television with his shows Your Show of Shows and the Caesar Hour in the 1950s. As Mel Brooks said “without Sid Caesar there would be no Mel Brooks.” David Margolick is...
Ozzy and Me | Stephen Rea and Guest Co-host Randy Blythe 12.03.2026 1:32:37
Join Michael’s conversation with Stephen Rea about his new book Ozzy and Me, Life Lesson, Wild Stories and Unexpected Epiphanies from Forty Years of Friendship with the Prince of Darkness which chronicles his more than 40-year friendship with Ozzy Osbourne. Stephen Rea is a former United Kingdom newspaper journalist and the author of the memoir Finn McCool’s Football Club. Originally from Northern...
The Traitor's Circle | Jonathan Freedland 28.02.2026 1:10:29
Join Michael in his conversation with Jonathan Freedland about his new non-fiction book The Traitors Circle, The True Story of a Secret Resistance Network in Nazi Germany—and the Spy Who Betrayed Them which tells the story of a circle of unlikely rebels, drawn from the German elite who shared loathing of the Nazis, a refusal to bow to Hitler and the courage to perform perilous acts of resistance. ...
James Clyburn | The First Eight: A Personal History of the Pioneering Black Congressmen Who Shaped a Nation 15.02.2026 1:19:36
On today's show we'll be speaking with Congressman Jim Clyburn about his new book, The First Eight, a personal history of the pioneering black congressmen who shaped a nation, which tells the story of those black congressmen from South Carolina who were elected in the aftermath of the Civil War while revealing why it took nearly a century before the ninth. The First Eight: A Personal Histo...
Andrew Porwancher | American Maccabee: Theodore Roosevelt & The Jews 28.01.2026 1:02:55
On today's show, we are speaking with Andrew Porwancher about his new book, “ American Maccabee, Theodore Roosevelt and the Jews. ” This episode was taped before a live stream audience in conjunction with Adas Israel Synagogue and Temple Beth El. Most Americans underestimate how deeply Theodore Roosevelt's relationship with Jewish communities shaped both his policies and his legacy. Discov...
Chris Matthews | Lessons from Bobby, Ten Reasons Robert F. Kennedy Still Matters 16.01.2026 1:14:20
On this week’s show we will be speaking with Chris Matthews about his new book Lessons from Bobby, Ten Reasons Robert F. Kennedy Still Matters which offers important lessons for public and private sector leaders alike. Chris Matthews hosted Hardball with Chris Matthews for a generation on MSNBC and now can be found exclusively on Substack. Chris is the acclaimed New York Times bestselling author o...
Jeffrey Rosen | The Pursuit of Liberty 24.12.2025 1:00:55
Join Michael in his conversation with Jeffrey Rosen about his new book, The Pursuit of Liberty . How Jefferson versus Hamilton ignited the lasting battle over power in America. Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
Dr. Sanjay Gupta | It Doesn't Have to Hurt 09.12.2025 1:20:59
Join Michael in his conversation Dr. Sanjay Gupta about his book It Doesn’t Have to Hurt, Your Smart Guide to a Pain-Free Life which explores the neuroscience of chronic pain and offers a seven-step process for addressing it. Dr. Gupta is an Associate Professor of neurosurgery at Emory University School of Medicine, a member of the National Academy of Medicine, and CNN’s Emmy Award-winning chief...
Melting Point 01.12.2025 46:05
Join Michael in his previously recorded special presentation in conjunction with Adas Israel Congregation of Washington, DC and Congregation Beth El in Montgomery County, Maryland with Rachel Cockerell about her new book Melting Point: Family, Memory, and the Search for a Promised Land . Rachel Cockerel l is a writer and historian, born and raised in London. The book is an “experimental” history a...
Jane Leavy | Make Me Commissioner | Part 2 18.11.2025 54:38
Join Michael in his conversation with Jane Leavy about her new book, Make Me Commissioner, I Know What’s Wrong with Baseball and How to Fix It which is a behind the scenes road trip through the far corners of the baseball world as she sets out to uncover how the game broke, and to find the people and the ideas that just might bring it back. Jane Leavy is an award-winning former sportswriter and...
Jane Leavy | Make Me Commissioner | Part 1 31.10.2025 51:54
Join Michael in his conversation with Jane Leavy about her new book, Make Me Commissioner, I Know What’s Wrong with Baseball and How to Fix It which is a behind the scenes road trip through the far corners of the baseball world as she sets out to uncover how the game broke, and to find the people and the ideas that just might bring it back. Jane Leavy is an award-winning former sportswriter and fe...
DeMaurice Smith | Turf Wars | Part 2 26.10.2025 44:03
Join Michael in his conversation with DeMaurice Smith about his new book, Turf Wars, The Fight for the Soul of America’s Game which chronicles his 14-year tenure as the head of the National Football League Players Association. DeMaurice Smith is the former executive director of the National Football League Players Association. Prior to the NFLPA, De was an assistant United States attorney, couns...
DeMaurice Smith | Turf Wars | Part 1 16.10.2025 1:05:06
Join Michael in his conversation with DeMaurice Smith about his new book, Turf Wars, The Fight for the Soul of America’s Game which chronicles his 14-year tenure as the head of the National Football League Players Association. DeMaurice Smith is the former executive director of the National Football League Players Association. Prior to the NFLPA, De was an assistant United States attorney, counsel...
Alex Vernon | Peace is a Shy Thing; The Life and Art of Tim O'Brien 26.09.2025 1:02:02
Join Michael in his conversation with Alex Vernon about his new book Peace is a Shy Thing, The Life and Art of Tim O’Brien which chronicles the life and writings of Tim O’Brien best known for his beloved book The Things They Carried. Alex is the M.E. and Ima Graves Peace Distinguished Professor of English at Hendrix College. Alex Vernon graduated from the U.S. Military Academy at West Point (the o...
Homestand, Small Town Baseball and the Fight for the Soul of America | Will Bardenwerper 11.09.2025 1:02:50
Join Michael in his conversation with Will Bardenwerper about his new book Homestand, Small Town Baseball and the Fight for the Soul of America which tells the story of Will’s efforts to find the heart of Americana through the lens of minor league baseball. Will has contributed to The New York Times, The Washington Post, Harper’s and other outlets and is the author of The Prisoner in His Palace:...
Revisiting A Conversation with Max Weinberg, Rock and Roll Hall Of Famer 03.09.2025 1:39:05
Join Michael Zeldin for this extraordinary 90-minute conversation with Max Weinberg, Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame drummer from Bruce Springsteen’s E Street Band, as they discuss Max’s musical career, his thoughts on music and drumming, his recollections of other great drummers, especially the late Rolling Stones drummer Charlie Watts, and much more. Guest Max Weinberg, Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame dru...
Revisiting: Stevie Van Zandt | Unrequited Infatuations’ 26.08.2025 1:13:13
Stevie Van Zandt while, perhaps, best known as a founding member of Bruce Springsteen’s E Street band and leader of Little Steven and the Disciples of Soul, he is also a writer, producer, actor (having starred in the Sopranos and Lilyhammer), radio host on Sirius/XM’s Little Steven’s Underground garage, political activist, founder of TeachRock.org, and much more. He is also a member of the Rock an...
Revisiting | Cody Keenan | Grace: President Obama and Ten Days in the Battle for America 19.08.2025 45:17
Join Michael in his discussion with Cody Keenan as they discuss his book, Grace: President Obama and Ten Days in the Battle for America. The book recounts the most remarkable eulogy delivered by President Obama in Charleston, South Carolina after the hate crime murders of Reverend Pickney and eight parishioners in the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church. Guest Cody Keenan Cody Keenan r...
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