Jenn and Daren

That Black Couple Podcast

Society EN ↓ 97 episodes

This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren’t beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out. We do “adult” differently. -About Daren and Jenn-Jenn is a queer, Black feminist from Oakland. Daren is an introverted nerd and novelist from Anahe...

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Jenn and Daren

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Society

Podcast website

thatblackcouple.com

Latest episode

May 27, 2026

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Episodes

S4E2 : THE RUNDOWN - The Good, The Bad and The Corny 27.01.2023

In the first segment, Jenn and Daren highlight Jenn’s recent talk on polyamory and the breakthrough nominations for the The 95th Academy Awards (2023). In the second segment, they discuss how corny white conservative s are showing up in the news, from trying to legislate away drag queens to Florida’s war on “wokeness.” In the third segment, Jenn and Daren reflect on the upcoming Black History Mont...

S4E1 : Transforming Black Political Futures 13.01.2023

Jenn and Daren open season 4 of That Black Couple exploring what the political futures of Black folx looks like. In the first segment, Jenn and Daren share their feelings about recent political developments like the "Red Wave" that wasn't and the historic and embarrassing vote for the Speaker of the House. In the second segment, they discuss the importance of the youth vote, abortion protection, a...

S3E44: Black Hope for 2023 31.12.2022

In the first segment, Jenn and Daren reflect on the most important things they learned in 2022, including not to overthink things and that you are enough all by yourself. In the second segment, they discuss the things they will be taking with them into 2023, from having more confidence and self-assurance to clarity around wants, goals, and personal and professional boundaries. In the third segment...

S3E43: Black Masculinity, Manhood, and Mental Health 30.12.2022

In the first segment, Jenn and Daren mourn the loss of Stephen “tWitch” Boss, other recent celebrity losses, and how so many people in society don’t understand that the personas celebrities put forth are not the entirety of who they are. In the second segment, they discuss the rising rates of suicide in the Black community and do a deep dive on what work needs to be done around Black masculinity a...

S3E42: Desensationalizing Black Pain 29.10.2022

In the first segment, Jenn and Daren detail the problem with centering pain in Black narratives and how white people struggle to understand Black characters without pain as an entry point. In the second segment, Jenn and Daren rave about the brilliance of “The Woman King”, Lashana Lynch, the film’s costuming department, and John Boyega’s twist out. They also explain how the film deftly tells a sto...

S3E41: Another Catch Up Episode 16.10.2022

In the first segment, Jenn and Daren explain where they have been for the last month and detail the initiatives you should tap into like the Black Feminist Book Club and thri upcoming Author Series. In the second segment, Daren asks “Who really cares about the Queen?” and Jenn talks through why we are not obligated to mourn her loss. In the third segment, Jenn and Daren outline why it’s time for u...

S3E40: Summer of Black Renaissance 16.08.2022

In the first segment, Jenn and Daren speak about the brilliance of Jordan Peele’s NOPE and Beyoncé’s Renaissance and how we should all be putting respect on the names of artists that elevate artistry. In the second segment, Jenn and Daren talk through Britney Griner’s current situation and how it speaks volumes about the disparities in professional sports pay and the particular peril that Black q...

S3E39: Black Daddy Issues 31.07.2022

In the first segment, Jenn and Daren discuss how Kendrick Lamar's "Family Time" exposes the complexities of "daddy issues". In the second segment, Daren lays out the stats around fatherhood and single motherhood in America, and Jenn makes it plain how imperative it is that children seek therapy to deal with their daddy issues and that we focus on the particular issues single mothers and daughters...

S3E38: Black Queer Pride 03.06.2022

In the first segment, Jenn and Daren spotlight the intersection of Black Music Appreciation Month and how much of a tragedy it is that we will never "know know" the truth about Luther Vandross. In the second segment, Jenn and Daren share their own experiences of how they came to understand and accept their queerness. In the third segment, Jenn and Daren tease Jenn's appearances on the new Discover...

S3E37 - Toxic (Black) Masculinity 24.05.2022

In the first segment, Jenn and Daren discuss the current threats to Roe v. Wade and how the confrontation between Will Smith and Chris Rock at the Oscars brought discussions around toxic masculinity to the forefront. In the second segment, they bring up a range of current examples of toxic (Black) masculinity including Kevin Samuels and Tory Lanez. In the third segment, Jenn and Daren give a previ...

S3E36 - Black Women and the Downside of Being the First 27.04.2022

In the first segment, Jenn and Daren celebrate the landmark confirmation of Ketanji Brown Jackson to the U.S. Supreme Court and the burden that she will need to bear as a result. In the second segment, they discuss why celebrating “firsts” for Black people can be complex and problematic and ask if the “race for firsts” is even a good thing for Black people. In the third segment, Jenn and Daren ref...

S3E35 - Petty Politics: Rihanna, Kanye, and Ukraine 02.03.2022

In the first segment, Jenn and Daren share their current favorite things, including PJ Morton and JoJo’s new song “My Peace” and the Peacock show “Bel-Air.” In the second segment, they talk through how Kim and Kanye’s divorce shows that stalking and harassment are never OK, why everybody needs to stay up to date on the war in Ukraine, and how people’s issues with Rihanna’s pregnancy are another ex...

S3E34 - The Black Futures Episode: How To Move as a Healing Black Person in 2022 09.02.2022

In the first segment, Jenn and Daren highlight the recent increase in Black deaths from suicide and why it is imperative that we seek healing in 2022. In the second segment, they discuss bell hooks’s book Sisters of the Yam, talk through the troubling statistics around Black mental health, and share their “4 Steps to Moving as a Healing Black Person in 2022”. In the third segment, Jenn and Daren r...

S3E33 - bell hooks, breakups and Blackness 22.01.2022

Jenn and Daren start season 3 of That Black Couple with a rundown episode covering some of the hottest topics of the month. In the first segment, Jenn and Daren share what has been on their minds like the little known long-term success of recent chart topper Muni Long (Hrs And Hrs), the merits of white on white violence in HBO’s Euphoria, why they’d both rather have a “sex tape” go public than a “...

S2E32 - Looking Forward: What's Next for That Black Couple? 18.01.2022

Jenn and Daren close out the season looking back at how far they’ve come in the 5 years that they’ve been creating the That Black Couple podcast and announce what listeners have to look forward to in 2022. In the first segment, Jenn and Daren talk about what changes you can expect in season 3 of TBC. All of the graphics will be getting a facelift, and they will be altering the structure of the epi...

S2E31 - The Looking Back Episode: Our Favorite Moments in the First 2 Seasons 13.12.2021

In the first segment, Jenn and Daren laugh their way through their favorite drags of the first 2 seasons, focusing on what makes Kenya Barris's shows tick and why white people should be cleaning up after Octavia Spencer for the rest of her life. In the second segment, they discuss their favorite intellectual moments of the first 2 seasons from the "Millennials and Interracial Dating" and "Black Sl...

S2E30 - Black Healing and Trauma During COVID-19 19.07.2021

In the first segment "First Things First," Jenn and Daren talk about how important it is to take lessons from the past year or two since COVID-19. For Black people, this time has shown us exactly how anti-Black and white supremacist these institutions are and how they often harm Black life. In the second segment, "The Conversation," Daren shares the data about the increased vulnerability of Black...

S2E29 - Why Young Black Folx Are Leaving The Black Church 15.03.2021

In the first segment, Jenn and Daren talk through their own relationship with the church and spirituality and the difficulty they had in finding a church for their own family. In the second segment, they invite Jenn’s partner Tia into the conversation to discuss why Black millennials are leaving the church and how they have come to adopt alternative forms of church. In the third segment, Jenn, Dar...

S2E28 - That (Queer) Black Couple: Gender Fluidity and Asexuality 31.10.2020

In the first segment, Jenn and Daren talk through how the COVID-19 pandemic has been an opportunity for self-exploration and the start of new ventures. In the second segment, they discuss how they discovered their own sexual (asexual) and gender (gender fluid/genderqueer) identities and what those identities mean. In the third segment, Jenn and Daren reflect on how asexuality and gender fluidity/g...

S2E27 - The Entanglement Episode (or How We Do Polyamory) 06.10.2020

In the first segment, Jenn and Daren recap how the term “entanglement” exploded over the summer and how it exposed people’s ignorance around polyamory. In the second segment, they unpack what an entanglement is, debunk its negative stereotypes, and show how polyamory is all about responsibility, open communication, respect, and ongoing commitment. In the third segment, Jenn and Daren reflect on ho...

S2E26 - Why We Aren't Rooting For Everybody Black 01.08.2020

In the first segment, Jenn and Daren talk through why Kanye West’s and Terry Crews’ recent headline-making actions are proof that we shouldn’t root for everybody Black. In the second segment, they dive into a deep discussion on how Black Entertainment has largely not been held accountable for advancing Black narratives in TV. They also explain why it is important that we hold people like Kenya Bar...

S2E25 - Radical Black Mothering and Protecting Black Children 10.05.2020

In this Mother’s Day episode, Jenn and Daren discuss the importance of mothers and “other mothers” both in their lives and the lives of Black folx at large. They also dive into the importance of parenting without adhering to societal gender roles and against harmful norms. They talk about Dwayne Wade's and Gabrielle Union’s parenting choices with Zaya Wade as the family navigates transphobia and p...

S2E24 - Lizzo, Black Feminism, and Everything We've Missed in the Last 4 Months 19.12.2019

In the first segment, Jenn and Daren explain where they've been for the last 4 months while the podcast has been on hiatus. In the second segment, they discuss some of the major topics they've missed during the hiatus. They cover new polyamorous developments, the roster of Democratic Presidential candidates, the recent race issues at Syracuse University, Cynthia Erivo's racist comments, how Black...

S2E23 - Polyamory, Open Relationships, and Black Dating Life 12.07.2019

In the first segment, Jenn and Daren explain what it is like to maintain a relationship with one polyamorous person and one monogamous person. In the second segment, they discuss polyamory’s progress through history and some of its most common misconceptions. In the Interview, Jenn and Daren chat with Jasmine and Mo Banks from the Parenting Is Political Podcast and dig into the roles polyamory has...

S2E22 - Millennials and Interracial Dating 01.04.2019

In the first segment, Jenn and Daren introduce a listener’s question and the reason why they enlisted a panel of people experienced in interracial dating to provide their insight and share their experiences. In the second segment, Jenn, Daren, and their panel discuss gender and racial dynamics within relationships from how “the gaze” can cause discomfort and fear to the rarity of resources that de...

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