Jenn and Daren

That Black Couple Podcast

Society EN ↓ 97 episodes

This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren’t beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out. We do “adult” differently. -About Daren and Jenn-Jenn is a queer, Black feminist from Oakland. Daren is an introverted nerd and novelist from Anahe...

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Jenn and Daren

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Society

Podcast website

thatblackcouple.com

Latest episode

May 27, 2026

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Episodes

S9E1 - WTF Is A Platonic Marriage? 27.05.2026

In the first episode of Season 9 of That Black Couple, Daren and Jenn explore the concept of platonic marriage, its history, societal perceptions, and their personal journey over 20 years. They discuss how their relationship defies traditional norms, the importance of safety and authenticity, and how they navigate love, identity, and societal expectations. Resources Colored Convos Media Substack -...

S8E10 - Building the World We Want for Ourselves 23.12.2025

In the final episode of season 8, Jenn and Daren explore the relentless pursuit of dreams and the journey to fulfillment. They share their personal experiences of moving to Maryland, overcoming challenges, and ultimately finding happiness in their new life. Most importantly, they emphasize the importance of perseverance and the joy that comes from achieving one's goals, despite the difficulties fa...

S8E9 - Black Food and Gender Roles 25.11.2025

In this episode of "That Black Couple," Jenn and Daren return after a break with a discussion on the intersection of Black food and gender roles. They share personal anecdotes about their relationships with food, exploring how their upbringing shaped their culinary skills and perspectives. Then they delve into the cultural significance of cooking within the Black community, emphasizing the need to...

S8E8 - Black August for a New Generation 30.08.2025

In this episode, the hosts discuss the significance of Black August, emphasizing the importance of consistency in activism, the historical context of Black liberation movements, and the need for education and in-person connections in the fight for justice. They reflect on the challenges posed by social media and the necessity of courage in activism, while also highlighting the ongoing struggles fo...

S8E7 - Moving Away From Toxic Relationships 30.08.2025

In this episode, Dr. Jenn and Daren discuss the importance of moving away from toxic relationships in various aspects of life, including friendships, family, and work. They explore how personal growth can lead to the end of certain relationships and emphasize the need for accountability, boundaries, and self-worth in maintaining healthy connections. The conversation highlights the signs of toxicit...

S8E6 - The Roots of Toxic Masculinity in Black Communities 13.07.2025

In this episode of “That Black Couple,” Jenn and Daren delve into the complexities of toxic masculinity within Black communities. They discuss the impact of patriarchy on Black men, including the emotional struggles they face in unpacking societal expectations and behaviors. Further, they highlight the crucial role women play in challenging these toxic behaviors. Through personal reflections and r...

S8E5 - Parenting While Black and Polyamorous 23.06.2025

In this episode of That Black Couple, Jenn and Daren discuss the complexities of parenting while being polyamorous, addressing common misconceptions and societal concerns. They explore the benefits of polyamorous households for children, emphasizing open communication, community support, and the importance of diverse experiences. The conversation highlights the need for honesty and authenticity in...

S8E4 - Celebrating 19 Years of Marriage 26.05.2025

In this anniversary episode of That Black Couple, Jenn and Darren celebrate 19 years of marriage and 22 years of being together. They dive into the dynamics of their non-traditional relationship, discussing their unique identities as a monogamous person and a polyamorous person. The couple shares insights on communication, the importance of understanding one's own needs, and how to navigate love a...

S8E3 - “The Black Legacy Model” 12.05.2025

In this episode of That Black Couple Podcast, Jenn and Daren dive into the thought-provoking concept of the Black Legacy Model, inspired by a viral TikTok series. They explore the four pillars that define this model: income, labor, community and family investment, and career flexibility. The couple reflects on how these ideas resonate with their own 19-year journey of partnership, emphasizing the...

S8E2 - Our Journey from Cali to the East Coast 10.05.2025

In the second part of the season 8 opener, Jenn and Daren dive deep into the complexities of their relationship journey, revealing the pivotal moments that shaped their love story. They reflect on the early days of their romance, starting from their college years. The conversation takes a candid turn as they discuss the challenges they faced from family disapproval, particularly from Daren's fathe...

S8E1 - Reintroducing That Black Couple 25.04.2025

In this 2-part episode, Jenn and Daren kick off Season 8 of That Black Couple Podcast with their first-ever video episode, allowing listeners to finally see their dynamic personalities in action. Join them for a heartfelt and humorous exploration of love, friendship, and the origins of That Black Couple. They reflect on their journey together, starting from their fateful meeting in the chicken lin...

S7E10 - Year In Review: Doing Things Differently in 2025 31.01.2025

In this episode, Jenn and Daren celebrate the milestone of reaching 2025 with an untraditional year-in-review format, reflecting on the tumultuous events of 2024. They kick things off by sharing their personal and podcasting achievements, including Jenn's book launches and their feature in The Huffington Post. In The Conversation, they delve into the podcast's performance over the past year, highl...

S7E9 - Fake Holidays: Truth Telling vs. Myth Making 30.12.2024

In this episode, Jenn and Daren tackle the myths and realities of holiday traditions, questioning the authenticity and significance of these celebrations. As they reflect on the end of 2024, they discuss the societal pressures surrounding holidays and the myths that shape our understanding of them. In The Conversation, they delve into the notion of identity-making and the role holidays play in it....

S7E8 - The South: Salt Grits vs. Sugar Grits 26.12.2024

In this episode, Jenn and Daren dive into the heart of Blackness in the American South, exploring its cultural richness, historical complexities, and the unique qualities that make it a cornerstone of Black identity in the U.S. They begin by sharing their personal experiences and revelations about the South, particularly through the lens of climate change and its impact on Southern communities. Je...

S7E7 - Earth Is Ghetto, I Wanna Leave 29.11.2024

In this episode, inspired by Aliah Sheffield's song "Earth is Ghetto," Jenn and Daren dive into the chaotic reality of today's world, including the resurgence of COVID-19 and the unsettling political landscape post-election. They begin by candidly discuss their recent experiences with COVID-19 and the importance of remaining vigilant as the pandemic persists. Jenn shares her meticulous efforts to...

S7E6 - Black Women Told Y’all: The Election Results 13.11.2024

In this episode, Jenn and Daren return after a brief hiatus due to a bout with COVID-19 to discuss the aftermath of the recent election results. This episode dives deep into the implications of the election, focusing on the role of Black women and the voting patterns that led to the unexpected outcome. In The Conversation, they analyze the election results, highlighting the phenomenon of split-tic...

S7E5 - Ancestor Appreciation 30.09.2024

In this episode, Jenn and Daren dive into the rich and often overlooked topic of ancestor appreciation. Throughout the episode, Jenn and Daren emphasize the importance of acknowledging and honoring one's ancestors. They share personal anecdotes and practices, such as setting up altars and engaging in rituals that connect them to their ancestral roots. They argue that these practices are not only m...

S7E4 - Food is Medicine 28.09.2024

In this episode, Jenn and Daren dive into the critical issue of food insecurity and the concept of food as medicine. The episode opens with Jenn and Daren sharing their personal relationships with food, shaped by their diverse upbringings. Jenn discusses their upbringing in a food desert and the impact of generational food insecurity on their family. Daren, on the other hand, talks about his child...

S7E3 - Rundown: Kamala, COVID, and Caucasian Coons 25.09.2024

In this episode, Jenn and Daren bring the heat with a rundown of recent events and topics they've missed while Jenn was away celebrating their 40th birthday. The episode kicks off with a discussion on COVID-19, highlighting the resurgence of cases and the importance of continuing to take precautions. Jenn shares her observations from her travels, noting the disappointing lack of mask usage and the...

S7E2 - Experts Over Influencers and Content Creators 12.08.2024

In this episode, Jenn and Daren tackle the contentious topic of "Experts Over Influencers and Content Creators." With a mix of humor and candidness, they explore the distinctions between true expertise and the rise of social media personalities. The episode opens with Jenn and Daren discussing the importance of understanding the difference between experts, content creators, and influencers, especi...

S7E1 - Building Boundaries vs. Walls 06.08.2024

In this episode, Jenn and Daren launch the seventh season by diving into the nuanced topic of boundaries versus walls. They discuss their personal journeys and the importance of setting healthy boundaries in various aspects of life, from relationships to social media to work environments. The episode begins with Jenn sharing insights from Nedra Tawwab's book "Set Boundaries, Find Peace," highlight...

S6E10 - Black Lesbian Visibility Matters 25.06.2024

In this episode, Jenn and Daren delve into the significance of Black lesbian visibility during Pride Month. With a mix of humor and heartfelt reflection, they explore the resurgence of Black lesbian representation in media and society, emphasizing why it matters now more than ever. The episode kicks off with Jenn and Daren sharing their excitement for Pride celebrations. In the first segment, they...

S6E9 - Black Workers and Disney’s Exploitation of Labor 26.05.2024

In this episode, Jenn and Daren dive deep into the exploitation of Black labor, drawing from their personal experiences working for Disney. They shed light on the harsh realities faced by Disney workers, particularly Black employees, and discuss the broader implications of these labor practices within the context of American capitalism. The episode begins with Jenn and Daren discussing the recent...

S6E8 - Abusers and the “Non-Apology” 18.05.2024

In this episode, Jenn and Daren delve into the harrowing topic of domestic violence and physical abuse, focusing on the entertainment and music industries where violence against women, especially Black women, is rampant. They urge listeners to take care of themselves and provide resources for victims and survivors of abuse at the end of the episode. The conversation begins with the recent allegati...

S6E7 - Is Rest Really Resistance? 09.05.2024

In this episode, Jenn and Daren ask the questions “what qualifies as rest” and "what does it take for rest to qualify as resistance?” In the first segment, Jenn shares an Instagram conversation that sparked the episode's theme. They question if rest, defined as the absence of activity, can be considered a form of resistance. They reference Dr. Tricia Hersey's argument that rest disrupts capitalist...

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