Jenn and Daren

That Black Couple Podcast

Society EN ↓ 97 episodes

This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren’t beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out. We do “adult” differently. -About Daren and Jenn-Jenn is a queer, Black feminist from Oakland. Daren is an introverted nerd and novelist from Anahe...

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Jenn and Daren

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Society

Podcast website

thatblackcouple.com

Latest episode

May 27, 2026

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Episodes

S6E6 - Black & Autistic 25.04.2024

In this episode, Jenn and Daren bring to light April as Autism Acceptance Month by highlighting the unique experience of being Black and neurodivergent, focusing specifically on autism. In the first segment, Jenn shares their own experience of being a Black neurodivergent person and conversations they had online with Black autistic people around their difficulties in understanding social cues. Dar...

S6E5 - Recognizing Sexual Assault Awareness Month 14.04.2024

In this episode, Jenn and Daren highlight Sexual Assault and Prevention Month. In the first segment, Jenn shares how sexual assault is an unavoidable part of her Black Politics course, and Daren shares his experience watching the “Quiet On Set” documentary that exposes the mistreatment and abuse of child actors at Nickelodeon during the 1990’s. In the second segment, Jenn and Daren dive deeper int...

S6E4 - RUNDOWN | Amanda Seales, Diddy, and Gabrielle Confederacy 07.04.2024

In this Rundown episode, Jenn and Daren get caught up on recent pop culture news. They start off talking about how apt it is that during Sexual Assault Awareness and Prevention Month, it appears that accused abusers like Sea “Diddy” Combs and Russell Simmons are being held accountable. While they are not advocates of the carceral system of punishment, they are fully behind restorative justice, and...

S6E3 - Where Have You Been? 23.02.2024

In this “Where Have You Been?” episode, Jenn and Daren let everyone know where they have been for the last few weeks. They start things off by talking about their recent spot in Huffington Post Black Voices series “Black Love on Our Terms,” in which they share how their relationship works and how others can use their model to find love on their own terms. They follow that up with an account of Jen...

S6E2 - The Rundown | HISS, Big Foot, and “I Don’t Unbend My Elbows Barbie” 08.02.2024

In this rundown episode, Jenn and Daren catch up on important happenings from the last few weeks. In the first segment, they recap the high points of Megan Thee Stallion’s “HISS” and Nicki Minaj’s failure of a response “Big Foot.” In the second segment, Jenn and Daren highlight the wins Black folx took home from the 2024 Grammys and Oscars, celebrating the achievements of artists such as Victoria...

S6E1 - Choosing Yourself in 2024 26.01.2024

In this episode, Jenn and Daren welcome everyone into the new year with an update on everything that is going on with them. Since the end of the last season, Jenn’s book "Black Women Taught Us" is available for purchase, Daren had eye surgery, and they have released people who couldn’t respect boundaries. They urge everyone listening to radically choose themselves in 2024 and see how much better l...

S5E10 - Poly For The Holidays Part 2: Letting People Go 01.01.2024

In this second part of their holiday themed episode, Jenn and Daren talk about the importance of chosen family, and not just for queer communities. With Jenn’s partner Jamelle as a guest, they share how they celebrated the holiday season together as a poly family. In survey after survey, it shows that people, especially younger generations, are increasingly dreading going to family events. And som...

S5E9 - Poly For The Holidays Part 1: Chosen Family 01.12.2023

In this holiday themed episode, Jenn and Daren talk about how celebrating the holidays in a non-traditional way can sometimes be the way that best serves you. The queer community has a legacy of chosen families, building families not based on blood but based on the community that loves and supports you. For much of their lives, Jenn and Daren operated under the traditional framework that you celeb...

S5E8 - Queer Self-Naming 27.10.2023

In this queer themed episode, Jenn and Daren celebrate LGBT History Month and Asexuality Awareness Week by marking the importance of “self-naming” and the power of being able to define yourself for yourself outside of society’s rules and standards. They talk about vulnerable queer youth and how self-naming can be a source of empowerment for them, and furthermore, how acceptance from their family a...

S5E7 - Black Mental Health Check-In 23.10.2023

In this episode, Jenn and Daren mark World Mental Health Day (October 10) with a much needed mental health check-in. As the season changes, temperatures drop, and the state of the world is constantly changing, it is important that we check-in with ourselves and with each other to make sure that we are each OK. They emphasize how the trauma of going through the COVID-19 pandemic has impacted margin...

S5E6 - The Rundown | Acknowledging Black Women’s Brilliance 22.09.2023

In this rundown of topical matters, Jenn and Daren celebrate the sheer brilliance of Black women. They start with using Drake’s recent conflict with Halle Berry as an example of how not to treat Black women. Next is a walkthrough or recent major wins for Black women, ranging from the global economic impact Beyonce’s Renaissance tour to the enduring legacy of Black women athletes dominating their f...

S5E5 - Let's Talk About Books 07.09.2023

In the first segment, Jenn and Daren celebrate September (Virgo Season) and update everyone on where they have been. They also explain how important literacy is and how comic books play a part in not just bringing young people to reading but also helping minority and queer readers see themselves reflected in print. In the second segment, they discuss the benefits of reading and how gaps in learnin...

S5E4 - Understanding The Roots of Black August 25.08.2023

In this episode spotlighting Black August, Jenn and Daren talk through the legacy of the Black radical tradition, from the Haitian Revolution to today. In the first segment, Jenn and Daren discuss the limited amount of Black history that they were taught in their youth and how that history tended to skew towards elements that support capitalism. But as Black liberation movements have grown in prom...

S5E3 - Hip-Hop, Hoochie Daddies, and Montgomery 11.08.2023

In this episode, Jenn and Daren reflect on 3 expressions of Blackness that brought them joy this week: the 50th anniversary Hip-Hop, the reality show “Hoochie Daddies,” and Montgomery Riverfront Beat-down. They opine on the beauty of Black solidarity and folding chairs, share how Hip-Hop has been a triumph and how it has let us down, and explain why “Hoochie Daddies” is the must-watch lesbian/stud...

S5E2 - Navigating Disability and Gender Policing 28.07.2023

In this episode, Jenn and Daren meditate on the ways that our own experiences with disability policing dovetails with other forms of anti-Black policing in society. We expand the conversation about Disability Pride Month to have a conversation about how our intersectional identities should be considered especially when we discuss our disabilities. We close the episode reflecting on the risks assoc...

S5E1 - Black Creatives Matter 15.07.2023

In the opening episode for season 5, Jenn and Daren focus on the laundry list of obstacles that are facing marginalized people and why it is that much more important to support Black creatives in these times. From Supreme Curt decisions legalizing discrimination and striking down affirmative action to book bans and the proliferation of DEI(&A) initiatives, the troubles of the world can work togeth...

S4E10 - Mental Health Awareness Month Debrief 29.05.2023

To close out May/Mental Health Awareness Month, Jenn and Daren recap how the month went for them and just how much they focused on their own mental health. A typically busy month for most people due to annual celebrations like the end of school years and Mother's Day, it is a partiularly busy month for them as they also celebrate Daren's birthday and graduation. Practical tips included in this epi...

S4E9 - Self Care Solutions 19.05.2023

Jenn and Daren take a different approach to Mental Health Awareness month in this episode, talking about the self care habits that have worked for them personally instead of focusing on how poor mental health can lead to negative outcomes. In this conversational format, Jenn and Daren ask each other questions about their own self care journeys and provide interesting insights around what has worke...

S4E8 - 4/20 Justice and Burnout 06.05.2023

Jenn and Daren highlight the dangers of burnout and how this can have heightened impacts for marginalized communities in this 4/20 themed episode. While many people think that sleeping in over the weekend can cure their burnout, the side effects of burnout can extend for anywhere from one year to ten years. This is why it is so important to prioritize self-care today. Within this conversation, the...

S4E7: Honoring Black Poets and the Struggle of Being a Black Writer 07.04.2023

Jenn and Daren tribute Black writers in this episode for National Poetry Month. They start by highlighting Black poets that every reader should have on their pull list including Nate Marshall, Claudia Rankine, and Donika Kelly. Daren then dives into hard facts and figures related to how white-dominated the writing and publishing industry is, and how that can bring about specific challenges for Bla...

S4E6: The Rundown | "Swarm" and the Push to Ban TikTok 24.03.2023

In this rundown episode, Jenn and Daren laugh and chat their way through the current events stuck on their minds. First, they pay homage and mourn the loss of fan favorite actor Lance Reddick and comment on how we are losing Black men at younger ages. Check on your Black man friend today. Then they run through a collection of topics from the looming ban of TikTok to the “Hotep Olympics” of Byron A...

S4E5: Giving Black Trans Women Their Flowers | Women’s History Month 10.03.2023

In this Womens History Month episode, Jenn and Daren discuss the high-profile threats to transgender people and why this is even more reason to spotlight them during month. Recent comments from Republicans at the CPAC conference and from famed writer Alice Walker prove how important it is for us to always center and elevate the experiences of all Black trans people. Jenn shares the work of Marsha...

S4E4 - The Barriers to Black Excellence 23.02.2023

In the first segment, Jenn and Daren explain how attacks on Critical Race Theory (CRT) and "Look What I Can Do" culture can hinder Black Excellence. In the second segment, they discuss how Black folx endorsing damaging messaging and white women acting as stand-ins for diversity are perfect examples of how gatekeeping holds us back and why we need to get back to supporting each other. In the third...

S4E3: Exploring the Legacy of Black Creatives 11.02.2023

In this Black History Month episode honoring the legacy of Black creatives, Jenn and Daren share some of their favorite Black creatives from the old school, contemporary times, and present day. In the first segment, Jenn and Daren talk about the legendary and super Black contributions of Ma Rainey and Henry Ossawa Tanner. In the second segment, they share why the works of Audre Lorde and August Wi...

S4 Bonus E1 : Kenya Barris Doesn’t Love Us 08.02.2023

In the first segment, Jenn and Daren explain that they like to watch bad movies, but “You People” is not the enjoyable kind of bad movie. In the second segment, they give a quick synopsis of the movie and discuss a litany of issues that this movie has, including implicit racism, gross misrepresentations of Los Angeles, and simple lazy writing. In the third segment, Jenn and Daren expand on this fi...

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