Dr. Gail Angus, Dr. Leesa Huang, and Dr. Mary Beth Kropp
System Shift: Leading Change So Students Thrive
“System Shift: Leading Change So Students Thrive” is the go-to podcast for education leaders dedicated to building safe, inclusive learning environments through transformative, sustainable system-wide change. Hosted by Dr. Gail Angus, Dr. Leesa Huang, and Dr. Mary Beth Kropp— expert practitioners with implementing complex initiatives—this podcast blends cutting-edge research, actionable strategies, and authentic stories from education leaders who’ve navigated the challenges of system-wide improvement. Whether you’re launching a district-wide initiative, enhancing current systems, or tackling t...
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Dr. Gail Angus, Dr. Leesa Huang, and Dr. Mary Beth Kropp
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Jun 29, 2026
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51: End-of-Year Transitions: How to Protect School Culture, Systems, and Sustainability 29.06.2026 18:25
Every school experiences transitions—retirements, promotions, leadership changes, and staff departures. In this episode, Dr. Gail, Dr. Leesa, and Dr. Mary Beth discuss how leaders can protect school culture, preserve momentum, and sustain effective systems through change. Learn how collective efficacy, reflection, and intentional planning can help ensure your school remains strong, no matter who c...
50: Lessons on Leadership, MTSS, and Building Strong School Systems Learned Over the 50 Episodes of System Shift 15.06.2026 16:09
In this special one-year anniversary episode, Drs. Gail, Mary Beth, and Leesa reflect on 50 episodes of System Shift and the biggest lessons they’ve learned about leadership, systems, and creating schools where students and adults can thrive. From proactive Tier 1 supports to collective efficacy and conditions for learning, the conversation highlights the power of aligned systems and shared purpos...
49: Are Your Systems Proactive or Reactive: Taking a Whole Child Data Approach in Schools 08.06.2026 17:04
Report cards are out, but how did your systems perform this year? In this episode, the System Shift team discusses why schools must look beyond academics and examine behavior, SEL, and attendance data together to truly support the whole child. They explore how integrated data conversations help schools identify patterns, strengthen proactive systems, and plan more effectively for the year a...
48: Why School Leaders Need Reflection this Summer: Preventing Burnout & Resetting for Next Year 01.06.2026 18:46
As the school year ends, many leaders jump straight into planning for next year without stopping to reflect on their own well-being. In this episode, the System Shift team explores why intentional pauses, reflection, and true restoration are essential for sustainable leadership. They discuss burnout, the difference between reflection and rumination, and how leaders can reset before returning for n...
47: Healing for Leadership with Dr. Antoinette Gutierrez: Emotional Intelligence in School Leadership 25.05.2026 21:54
What if the biggest gap in education isn’t student support but adult development? In this episode, Dr. Antoinette Gutierrez shares how emotionally intelligent leadership is the key to building safe, resilient school cultures. Drawing from her journey as a teacher, principal, and district leader, plus her book Healing for Leadership, she unpacks why leaders must do the inner work first before expec...
46: Leading vs. Lagging Indicators: The Key to Driving Real School Improvement 18.05.2026 15:34
Are you measuring what actually moves the needle? In this episode, we break down the difference between leading and lagging indicators and why too many schools rely on end-of-year data to drive decisions. Instead, we explore how focusing on real-time, actionable data can help leaders monitor progress, make adjustments, and build momentum throughout the year. If you want more control over outcomes...
45: MTSS Isn’t Interventions: Reframing MTSS to Include Tier 1 for Real Impact on Student Outcomes 11.05.2026 12:47
What if MTSS isn’t about interventions at all? In this episode, we challenge a common misconception: that MTSS is primarily about Tier 2 and Tier 3 support. Instead, we reframe MTSS as a proactive, preventative framework—one that starts with strong Tier 1 systems and collective adult responsibility. Using the BRIDGE framework , we explore how mindset, clarity, and alignment can shift schools from...
44: Budget Cuts with Purpose: A Smarter Way to Align District Spending 04.05.2026 16:55
Budget season brings tough decisions, but where should you start? In this episode, we share how to use the BRIDGE Framework to align spending with your purpose, evaluate initiatives, and make strategic decisions that actually support student success. In This Episode: Start with purpose and values—not the budget Audit initiatives for alignment and impact Use one-time funds to strengthen implementat...
43: From Compliance to Commitment: Using Brain Science to Drive Lasting School Change with Dr. Lisa Riegel 27.04.2026 34:12
What if sustainable change in schools starts with the brain? In this episode, Dr. Lisa Riegel shares how neuroscience can transform leadership and system-wide change. Using her 8 C’s Framework, she explains why initiatives fail and how leaders can build safe, aligned systems that move from compliance to true commitment. In This Episode: The 8 C’s framework for sustainable change Why brain science...
42: Interventions Happen Everywhere: Rethinking Tier 1 Responsibility in Schools 20.04.2026 14:48
What if intervention isn’t a place or a person, but something everyone does? In this episode, the team challenges the traditional view of intervention and explores how schools can shift to a shared responsibility model. Using the BRIDGE framework , they highlight how empowering all staff to respond in the moment leads to stronger Tier 1 systems and better outcomes for students. In This Episode: Wh...
41: Tier 1 Done right: How Shared Responsibility & Clear Roles Transform School Culture 13.04.2026 17:36
Why does Tier 1 feel overwhelming or like it falls on just a few people? This episode challenges the idea that “universal” means that everyone is doing everything the same, and instead reframes it as shared responsibility across all staff. The team explores how clear roles, consistent language, and aligned values can reduce burnout, improve consistency, and create the conditions for all students t...
40: Spring Burnout in Schools: How Reflection and Refocusing, Strengthen Conditions for Learning 06.04.2026 18:50
In this episode of System Shift, we explore the “push-pull” of spring in education—balancing the end of the year while planning for what’s next. Instead of pushing through, leaders are encouraged to pause, reflect, and refocus on conditions for learning . By taking time to listen to student and staff voices, schools can identify what’s working and take intentional next steps without blame or overw...
39: Coaching Over Supervising: Dr. Anthony Rice on Developing Leaders and Building Collective Efficacy in Schools 30.03.2026 30:36
In this episode of System Shifters, we sit down with Dr. Anthony Rice—high school principal, author of The Color of Leadership, podcast host, and recipient of the ACSA Region 19 Fred Kiesel Memorial Distinguished Service Award. Drawing on his experiences as a professional football player, coach, and educational leader, Dr. Rice shares why the most effective leaders focus on developing people, not...
38: Collective Efficacy in Schools: How Shared Belief Drives Student Success 23.03.2026 13:46
Collective efficacy is more than confidence; it's the shared belief that together we can positively impact student outcomes. I n this episode, the System Shifters team unpacks what collective efficacy really means within the BRIDGE framework and why it’s the “people” component behind aligned systems. When educators share purpose, trust one another, and believe in their collective impact, stronger...
37: Alignment of Systems: How MTSS, PBIS, and Whole-Child Supports Work Together 16.03.2026 12:07
In this episode, the System Shifter Team continues the deep dive into the BRIDGE framework, focusing on alignment of systems . Too often, schools treat MTSS, PBIS, RTI, curriculum, and whole-child initiatives as separate efforts. The result is fragmentation and overwhelm. True alignment means shared definitions, integrated practices, and systems that pull in the same direction. When every strand o...
36: Transforming School Systems through Purpose, Values and Mindset 09.03.2026 13:20
In this episode, the System Shifters team takes a deep dive into purpose, mindset, and values and the impact it has in the education system. This episode explores when purpose is clear, values are shared, and mindset is aligned, schools build resilience, strengthen culture, and create the foundation for students to thrive and learn. Sustainable change takes aligned adult behavior. In This Episode:...
35: Aligning Systems for Sustainable School Improvement 02.03.2026 18:43
Most school initiatives don’t fail because of bad ideas; they fail because systems aren’t aligned. In this episode, we unpack the BRIDGE Framework (Building Responsive Integrated Dynamic Governance for Excellence) and how it helps schools move beyond siloed initiatives toward cohesive, sustainable improvement. Instead of layering on more programs, BRIDGE strengthens Tier 1, clarifies adult actions...
34: Why More Interventions Aren’t the Answer in Schools 23.02.2026 19:41
When schools feel overwhelmed by student needs, the instinct is often to add more interventions. But what if the real issue isn’t interventions, it’s Tier 1 systems? In this episode, Drs. Gail, Mary Beth, and Leesa explore why strong core systems reduce the need for reactive support and how proactive, integrated Tier 1 practices create better outcomes for students and staff. They unpack the shift...
33: The Power of Language in School Systems: Clarity, Consistency, and Change 16.02.2026 15:03
Words shape systems, yet in education, shifting terminology often creates confusion instead of progress. In this episode, Drs. Gail, Mary Beth, and Leesa explore how inconsistent language around initiatives like intervention, inclusion, and MTSS can unintentionally derail implementation and stall change. They unpack why clarity matters more than novelty, how leaders can build shared meaning across...
32: The 7 Cs of Communication: Why Initiatives Fail (and How to Fix It) 09.02.2026 17:24
Most school initiatives don’t fail because the idea was wrong; they fail because communication broke down. In this episode, Drs. Gail, Mary Beth, and Leesa explore how unclear messaging, lack of consistency, and missed audiences can derail even the strongest initiatives. They break down the Seven Cs of Communication, share how to communicate before all the answers exist, and explain why repetition...
31: How to Safeguard School Initiatives Through Leadership Turnover and Budget Cuts 02.02.2026 20:54
Leadership changes and budget cuts are inevitable, but losing your most important initiatives doesn’t have to be. In this episode, we explore how purpose-driven culture, distributed leadership, and shared ownership help protect initiatives through leadership transitions and funding shifts. You’ll learn how to build systems that don’t depend on one person or one budget line and how cross-department...
30: From Implementation to Culture: Building School Systems That Last 26.01.2026 18:26
In this episode, the System Shifters hosts explore how schools and districts can move beyond simply implementing initiatives to integrating them into organizational culture. When systems are truly integrated, they become a “just how we do things here” mentality that is shared across roles, embedded in daily practice, and resilient through leadership changes, budget cuts, and crises. The conversati...
29: From Implementation to Integration: Building Sustainable School Systems 19.01.2026 22:01
Many school initiatives don’t fail because they’re bad—but because they’re never fully integrated. In this episode, Drs. Leesa, Mary Beth, and Gail explore the difference between implementation and integration, and why programs often disappear after leadership changes, budget cuts, or staff turnover. They share how integrated systems—built around shared purpose, distributed ownership, and daily pr...
28: Implementation Illusion- Reality Check: Are Your Programs Actually Working or Just Existing? 12.01.2026 22:37
Many schools have strong programs on paper—PBIS, MTSS, safety protocols, curriculum initiatives—but far fewer have systems that actually function in practice. In this episode, the hosts unpack the concept of implementation illusion: when programs appear to be in place, but critical practices, clarity, and support are missing. This gap creates staff burnout, confusion across roles, and puts student...
27: The Mid-Year Leadership Reset: How School Leaders Pause, Refocus, and Finish Strong 05.01.2026 14:21
The start of a new year often brings fresh goals, but for educators, it also marks the halfway point of the school year. In this episode of System Shift, Drs. Gail, Mary Beth, and Leesa explore why mid-year is the perfect time for a strategic pause. They discuss how reflective leadership, purpose-driven decision-making, and honest data conversations help leaders reset priorities, build psychologic...
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