Consulting4Contractors
Success Beyond The Brush
Host Scott Lollar is a 35-year veteran of the painting industry and founder of Consulting4Contractors. The 'Success Beyond The Brush' Podcast serves as a touchpoint to painting contractors who have hustled, sacrificed, and worked hard to get their business to where it is today. Now, you need the guidance, expertise, experience, and team to make it into the multi-million-dollar company of your dreams. You'll hear stories and interviews from "Brothers of the Brush" and "Sisters of the Sprayer" who have been where you are and are charting a new course for their company's success. Listen in and go...
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May 26, 2026
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Episodes
SBTB Ep. 24 | The Profit Killers: Navigating Scope Creep and Change Orders 26.05.2026 32:31
SIGN UP FOR A TASTE OF COACHING HERE 👇👇👇 Get coaching with SCOTT LOLLAR here Get coaching with RICK HOLTZ here ****************************** In This Episode Mark and Scott discuss: Why scope creep quietly destroys profit How one unapproved jobsite decision can erase an entire job’s margin Why crew leaders need to treat the work order as the source of truth The difference between great c...
SBTB Ep. 23 | Can Painting Contractors Actually Make Money Working With General Contractors? 20.05.2026 43:51
SIGN UP FOR A TASTE OF COACHING HERE 👇👇👇 Get coaching with SCOTT LOLLAR here Get coaching with RICK HOLTZ here ****************************** General contractors often get a bad reputation in the painting industry. Many painting contractors have dealt with slow payments, unrealistic schedules, disorganized jobsites, scope creep, and pressure to do extra work without approval. But does that mean...
SBTB Ep. 22 | Stop Managing on Feelings: How to Actually Measure Your Team 05.05.2026 39:13
SIGN UP FOR A TASTE OF COACHING HERE 👇👇👇 Get coaching with SCOTT LOLLAR here Get coaching with RICK HOLTZ here ****************************** In this episode of Success Beyond The Brush , Scott Lollar sits down with Rick Holtz to break down what it really takes to manage your management team effectively. Most contractors rely on gut feelings when evaluating their team—but that’s where things st...
SBTB Ep. 21 | Warranties, Callbacks & Profit Leaks (What Most Contractors Get Wrong) 28.04.2026 23:38
Springtime brings more than just busy schedules—it brings callbacks, warranty claims, and profit leaks . In this episode, Mark Black and Scott Lollar break down the real truth about warranties in the painting industry—what they should cover, what they shouldn’t, and how poor systems can quietly drain your bottom line. They discuss: Why most warranty issues actually start in the sales process How...
SBTB Ep. 20 | The Forgotten Phase of Customer Experience: Pre-Production Mistakes Contractors Make 21.04.2026 37:07
Many contractors excel at sales or production… but fail in the space in between. In this episode of Success Beyond The Brush , Mark Black and Scott Lollar discuss one of the most overlooked opportunities to create a premium customer experience: the pre-production phase . After the contract is signed but before the project begins, many companies unintentionally create frustration, uncertainty, and...
SBTB Ep. 19 | Why Goals, Budgets, and Projections Separate Growing Contractors from Struggling Ones 14.04.2026 45:19
👉 Book your FREE discovery call with Rick today 👈 Most contractors have revenue goals… but very few have a clear plan to reach them. In this episode, Scott Lollar interviews Rick Holtz , owner of HJ Holtz & Sons Painting and a Consulting4Contractors coach, about the practical process of turning business vision into measurable results. Rick shares how his company shifted from operating withou...
SBTB Ep. 18 | Hiring Painters in a Seasonal Business – What Actually Works 07.04.2026 34:57
Hiring is one of the most consistent challenges facing contractors, regardless of company size. In this episode, Mark Black speaks with Rick Holtz about how successful painting companies approach hiring, onboarding, and training new team members — especially as the busy season approaches. Rick shares insights from managing a large team of 60+ field employees, including how his company maintains st...
SBTB Ep. 17 | From $200K in Debt to a $3M Target: The Power of Strategic Focus 31.03.2026 32:48
What happens when your biggest customers are actually your biggest problem? In this episode of Success Beyond The Brush , we revisit a conversation that Scott originally had on the Beyond A Million DollarPodcast, sitting down with Phil VanderLaan of PMV Painting to unpack a journey that many contractors quietly experience: growing revenue while losing profit. Phil shares how a major commercial pro...
SBTB Ep. 16 | How Much Should Contractors Really Spend on Marketing? 24.03.2026 35:37
Spring brings more than warmer weather for painting contractors — it also brings a flood of marketing pitches, lead generation promises, and pressure to spend money fast. In this episode of Success Beyond The Brush , Mark Black and Scott Lawler break down how contractors should think about marketing spend, where most owners go wrong, and how to actually measure whether marketing is producing resul...
SBTB Ep 15 | Salary vs Incentives: The Comp Plan Most Contractors Get Wrong 17.03.2026 37:44
Incentives Drive Behavior — So What Are You Really Paying For? Most contractors think a salary is a compensation plan . But according to Consulting for Contractors’ Scott Lollar , that mindset might be quietly costing your company money. In this episode of Success Beyond The Brush , Mark Black and Scott Lollar break down how contractors should think about compensation plans for overhead positions...
SBTB Ep. 14 | Leadership Is a Mirror: Why Your Company Reflects Who You Are 03.03.2026 33:34
Leadership isn’t a destination. It’s a mirror. In this episode of Success Beyond The Brush , Mark Black sits down again with Rick Holtz of Holtz & Sons Painting for a powerful conversation on personal development, servant leadership, and the uncomfortable growth required to build a sustainable company. Rick shares his journey from “brute force” leadership as a young second-generation contracto...
SBTB Ep. 13 | Details Make the Difference: Why Job Documentation Drives Profit & Freedom 24.02.2026 38:51
In this episode of Success Beyond The Brush , Mark Black and Scott Lollar tackle one of the most overlooked — and most expensive — weaknesses in a contracting business: job documentation . From unclear scopes to missed closets, from time overruns to frustrated customers, this conversation exposes the hidden costs of vague work orders and poor internal communication. You’ll hear real-world stories...
SBTB Ep. 12 | From $500K to $6M: What It Really Takes to Lead a Scaling Painting Company 17.02.2026 37:16
In this episode of Success Beyond The Brush , Mark Black sits down with Rick Holtz , owner of a $6 million painting company with 50+ field employees, to unpack what it actually looks like to transition from operator to CEO. If you’ve ever wondered: Does stress triple when revenue triples? What does a real week look like for a $6M company owner? When should you hire production vs. sales? How do you...
SBTB Ep. 11 | Ask Scott Anything: Coaching, Time Management, Hiring & Building a Team 10.02.2026 40:41
In this listener Q&A episode, Scott Lollar shares his origin story—how an entrepreneurial streak as a kid (yard work, snow shoveling, even cleaning an elderly couple’s home) eventually led to painting, then scaling companies, and finally launching Consulting4Contractors (C4C). From there, Scott and Mark tackle big questions contractors face: how to choose a coach in a noisy market, how to stop...
SBTB Ep. 10 | The Scheduling Mistakes That Quietly Cost Contractors $150K+ 03.02.2026 40:53
In this episode, Mark Black and Scott Lollar break down why scheduling is one of the biggest hidden profit leaks in a contracting business. They unpack how going over budget doesn’t just cost you on the job — it steals capacity from the next job (the “double whammy”), why “my board is full” is meaningless if it isn’t tied to revenue targets and headcount , and how crew sizing, overtime, job roundi...
SBTB Ep. 9 | Risk Management Without Killing Momentum 27.01.2026 22:45
📝 Episode Summary Risk management isn’t about playing scared — it’s about playing smart. In this episode of Success Beyond The Brush , we dig into the reality that as your painting business grows, so does your exposure to risk. From everyday jobsite mistakes to insurance blind spots, safety shortcuts, and financial vulnerabilities, this conversation reframes risk as something to be managed , not...
SBTB Ep. 8 | Executing The Gameplan - Why Great Contractors Run Better Meetings (And Bad Ones Avoid Them) 20.01.2026 36:20
Many business owners come up through the trades as high performers and lone wolves. Meetings can feel “too corporate,” expensive, inconvenient, or uncomfortable — especially when owners don’t know what to say or fear saying the wrong thing. The result? Meetings get avoided entirely… and communication suffers. The One Meeting Every Company Needs Scott explains why monthly all-company meetings are e...
SBTB Ep. 7 | Executing The Gameplan - Stay in Your Lane: How Contractors Lose Money by Doing ‘A Little Bit of Everything' 13.01.2026 31:36
In this episode of Success Beyond The Brush , Mark and Scott dive into one of the biggest profit-killers for contractors: diversifying too much, too quickly, for the wrong reasons. From wanting to please customers… to scarcity mindset… to having “a guy” who used to do tile 13 years ago … This conversation exposes the real risks behind saying “yes” to work that falls outside your core lane. Mark...
SBTB Ep. 6 | Behind The Bid - Where to Spend Your Marketing Dollars: Buyers, Brand, and Better ROI 06.01.2026 45:44
Where to Spend Your Marketing Dollars: Buyers, Brand, and Better ROI When you’ve got a limited marketing budget and a dozen people shouting “We’re the answer!”, where do you actually put your dollars? In this episode of Success Beyond The Brush , host Mark Black sits down with Scott Lollar from Consulting4Contractors to unpack how painting contractors can make smarter, data-driven decisions about...
SBTB Ep. 5 | People Before Paint - Building Loyalty That Lasts: How to Create a Magnetic Culture That Retains Great Employees 30.12.2025 35:23
In this powerful episode of Success Beyond The Brush , Mark Black and Scott Lollar sit down with special guest Rick Holtz of H.J. Holtz & Son to tackle one of the biggest challenges facing contractors today — employee retention . With over 55 field employees and decades-long tenures on his team, Rick shares the intentional systems and leadership mindset that have helped him build a loyal, high...
SBTB Ep. 4 | Cents & Sense - KPIs That Matter: Using Data to Run a Smarter Contracting Business 23.12.2025 36:09
In this episode of Success Beyond The Brush , Mark and Scott dive deep into one of the most critical — and often misunderstood — subjects in contracting: Key Performance Indicators (KPIs) . While many business owners rely heavily on instinct and gut feelings, this conversation unpacks why real growth, sustainability, and profitability come from data-driven decisions . Scott explains how KPIs allow...
SBTB Ep. 3 | Cents & Sense - You Didn’t ‘Make’ $500K: Knowing Your Real Numbers as a Painting Contractor 16.12.2025 30:35
Episode Summary In this episode of Success Beyond The Brush , Scott and Mark tackle one of the biggest misconceptions plaguing small painting businesses: confusing revenue with profit. Just because your business “did” $500,000 doesn’t mean you , the owner, made $500,000. The guys break down what revenue actually means, how to calculate real take-home pay, and why ignoring your financials is one of...
SBTB Ep. 2 | Behind The Bid - Selling Experiences, Not Just Paint: A Customer-Centric Approach 09.12.2025 36:06
Episode Summary Most painting contractors are estimating , not selling —and it’s costing them jobs, margins, and quality clients. In this episode, Mark Black and Scott Lollar unpack one of the biggest pillars in a successful painting business: building a professional, customer-centric sales process that wins the middle third of your opportunities and elevates your customer experience. You’ll hear...
SBTB Episode 1 | Lifeline Of The Jobsite - From Access To Success: Elevating Painting Contractor-Client Interactions (featuring Mark Black & Scott Lollar) 25.11.2025 26:13
Episode Overview In this episode of Success Beyond The Brush , hosts Mark Black and Scott Lollar break down one of the most overlooked—but most powerful—drivers of profitability in a painting company: client access and communication . From online scheduling to pre-qualification filters, to expectation-setting and reducing friction at every stage of the sales process, this episode teaches you how t...
The Vibrant Vision of Kunst Painting: A Conversation with John Busick 26.02.2024 43:18
Episode 19 is all about the enduring legacy of a family business that has withstood the test of time as John Busick, the fifth-generation owner of Kunst Painting , opens up about steering a historic painting company into the future. From learning how to clean deuces in the back yard for 25 cents a bucket, to a narrative rich in lessons about navigating the future of his family's business, John's j...
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