Consulting4Contractors

Success Beyond The Brush

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Host Scott Lollar is a 35-year veteran of the painting industry and founder of Consulting4Contractors. The 'Success Beyond The Brush' Podcast serves as a touchpoint to painting contractors who have hustled, sacrificed, and worked hard to get their business to where it is today. Now, you need the guidance, expertise, experience, and team to make it into the multi-million-dollar company of your dreams. You'll hear stories and interviews from "Brothers of the Brush" and "Sisters of the Sprayer" who have been where you are and are charting a new course for their company's success. Listen in and go...

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Consulting4Contractors

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Latest episode

May 26, 2026

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Episodes

Planning Your Goals for a New Year // Insights with Mike Katounas and Rick Holtz 22.01.2024

This episode of the Beyond $1,000,000 Podcast sees industry veterans (and C4C coaches) Mike Katounas (Home Works Painting) and Rick Holtz (H.J. Holtz & Son, Inc.) return to unpack the essential steps for laying the groundwork for a prosperous new year. We tackle the art of reflection on past performances, setting ambitious yet attainable team goals, and the significance of ironing out standard...

Mastering Onboarding, Training, and Team Communication // A Q&A Bonus Episode With C4C 08.01.2024

Join us on the Beyond a Million Dollar Podcast as we engage in a compelling conversation with industry experts Mike Katounas and Rick Holtz about the transformative power of training and development in the paint contracting world. As we navigate the challenges posed by a shrinking workforce, Rick introduces us to the on-the-job training strategy at H.J. Holtz & Son, Inc., where a veteran emplo...

From Rockstar Aspirations to Painting Success // The Entrepreneurial Journey of Ron Rice 28.12.2023

Listen in as we explore the intriguing journey of Ron Rice , owner of Ron Rice Painting . Discover how Ron transitioned from being an aspiring rockstar/DJ and part-time painter in college to becoming a successful painting contractor in San Diego. He opens up about the challenges he faced and the lessons learned while building his business. Ron's humility and constant hunger for growth make his sto...

From Garage Floors to Spray Guns // Chris Soule's Entrepreneurial Journey in Cabinet Painting 23.12.2023

Listen in as I chat with Chris Soule, the ambitious entrepreneur behind Clean Cut Painting, about his remarkable transition from an auto body shop apprentice to a successful business owner in East Hampton, Connecticut. Chris's candid storytelling takes us through his initial struggles and the formative experiences that led him to venture into entrepreneurship, including the challenges of a flyer c...

Navigating the Sales Landscape // Carl Utter's Journey to Training the Best in Paint Contractor Sales 07.12.2023

Join us for an insightful conversation with Carl Utter, founder of Contractor Growth Strategy . Carl's story is both fascinating and inspiring; from a thriving musician to a starving salesman, and eventually becoming a successful sales trainer with a specialty in the painting industry. He shares his invaluable lessons from his early days of selling insurance door-to-door and his unique approach to...

Mastering the Sales Process & KPIs: Tips from Mike Katounas, C4C Coach and Owner of Home Works Painting 01.11.2023

Unlock the secrets of successful sales processes for contractors with our guest, Mike Katounas of Home Works Painting . Expect to be enlightened on the nuances of pre- and post-appointment communication, the role of setting clear expectations, and how to handle customer relationships. Mike introduces us to his go-to tool, YouCanBookMe , which helps him maintain a steady line of contact with his cl...

Differentiating Your Company, Team Communication, and Hiring // Listener Q&A with Mike Katounas and Rick Holtz 17.10.2023

Our first bonus episode! Join us as we explore what truly sets a painting company apart from the rest with C4C coaches Mike Katounas, Rick Holtz, and yours truly, Scott Lollar. We share the unique features that set Home Works Painting and H.J. Holtz and Son, Inc. apart - whether it's rigorous background checks on staff, a six-year warranty, or color consultation services for those struggling with...

Transforming the World of Paint Contracting: An Insightful Journey with Tom Droste, the Visionary Behind Estimate Rocket 27.09.2023

We're excited to have Tom Droste, co-founder of Estimate Rocket along with his wife Kathy, who took an unexpected leap from accounting into the world of software development. Prepare to be captivated by his fascinating journey, from his early interest in the burgeoning computer industry to developing his first estimating program for a humble plumber. Hear about the genesis of personal computers fo...

Creating a Million-Dollar Business with Kevin Wooten of Carolina Painting & Pressure Washing 30.08.2023

Imagine building a successful painting business from scratch, starting at your father's company and turning it into a million dollar machine. That's exactly what Kevin Wooten, owner of Carolina Painting and Pressure Cleaning, has accomplished. In our conversation, Kevin gives us a peek behind the curtain, revealing the unique business model that has set his company apart. He explains his innovativ...

Unlocking Human Behavior for Better Hiring and Stronger Relationships with Art Snarzyk 26.07.2023

---Click here to purchase an platinum assessment and enter code " ASSESSMENT50 " to receive 50% off 1 assessment per company--- Ever wondered how understanding people’s behavior can change the dynamics of your business? Today we are privileged to have Art Snarzyk, a certified behavioral analyst, and founder of InnerView Advisors, who explains the nuances of behavioral analysis and its impact on th...

From Painter to Multi-Million Dollar Business Owner: John Neubert's Journey to Success in the Painting Industry 21.06.2023

Can you imagine building a multi-million dollar painting business without the help of YouTube, social media, or influencers? John Neubert, owner of Neubert Painting in Brook Park, Ohio, did just that and he's here to share his incredible journey. From starting out as a painter to earning his MBA and transitioning into a business owner and sales manager, John has valuable insights to offer contract...

Transforming a Struggling Business into a Profitable Venture // Phil VanderLaan of PMV Custom Finishes 29.05.2023

Discover the secrets to transforming your business and skyrocketing your profits in our fascinating conversation with Phil VanderLaan, owner of PMV Custom Finishes in Kalamazoo, Michigan. We discuss Phil's inspiring journey, from his time at college in Grand Rapids to founding and growing his own successful painting company. You'll learn about navigating the "Dutch mafia" in Southwest Michigan, th...

Embracing The Holtz Way: A Multi-Million Dollar Story // Rick Holtz of H.J. Holtz & Son, Inc. 15.05.2023

Join us for an inspiring conversation with Rick Holtz, the third-generation owner of H.J. Holtz & Son , and newest coach with the Consulting4Contractors team .  We uncover the secrets of transforming a family business from a $300,000 company to a multi-million-dollar organization employing over 60 people. You won't want to miss this insightful journey as Rick shares his experiences of taking t...

Keeping Busy When You're Slow, Marketing, And Our Thoughts on Backlogs // Q&A with Mike Katounas 02.05.2023

In this episode, Scott and Mike dig into a couple more questions they receive from their own coaching clients, and other contractors. In this episode, you'll hear their thoughts on :  How to plan for when your schedule starts to thin out What a good "backlog" looks like from their vantage points (it's not what you might think) Leveraging customer flexibility to your advantage Making good use of a...

Hiring Subs and Project Managers // Q&A with Mike Katounas of Home Works Painting 14.03.2023

If you've ever wondered whether hiring our subcontractors is the right thing to do, or whether having a project manager within your business makes sense or not, then our first Q&A episode with Scott & Mike is a must-listen! Scott & Mike will cover :  Best practices when it comes to hiring out subs  Where they find the best subs for their companies  How to handle customer questions abou...

Invest In Your Team and Quit Trying To Be Superman // Mark Black of Men In White Painting 21.01.2023

Consulting 4 Contractors is so glad to welcome Mark Black, owner of Men In White Painting , to the podcast.  Mark started Men In White, located in Mt. Vernon, Illinois, after a few "false starts" in the painting industry.  We admire Mark , not only for his vision of what's possible, but his determination, humility, and not trying to do everything on his own. Here's a great quote from show host Sco...

It's Not About Me // Nick Lauro of Lauro Painting 02.11.2022

In this episode, we sit down with Nick Lauro , owner of Lauro Painting in Montgomery County, Pennsylvania.  Nick isn’t afraid to confront his own shortcomings and come out a better owner for it. Are you frustrated with the lack of growth and success in your painting business?   If Nick’s story has anything to offer it’s this: Maybe it’s not your leads. Maybe it’s not your employees. Maybe it’s not...

Welcome to the Beyond $1,000,000 Podcast // Mike Katounas of Home Works Painting 05.10.2022

In our very first episode, Scott sits down with Mike Katounas, fellow Consulting4Contractors coach, to find out about how Mike got his start, scaled his business to the multi-million dollar company it is today, and shed some insight on how they specialize helping business like yours scale to $1,000,000 annual revenue and beyond. Main Topics Mike's start in the painting industry with his dad's comp...

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