Refine Labs

Stacking Growth | The B2B Marketing Podcast

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Hosted by Refine Labs, this podcasts is for marketers, by marketers. Whether you're new or seasoned , we want to help you refine your strategies, find meaningful takeaways, and hear real, honest stories of marketers who've been able to make waves for the industry. Combining purposeful tactics and strategies across multiple areas is what it means to Stack Growth - let's help build each other up.

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Refine Labs

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Latest episode

Jun 25, 2026

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Episodes

S2 E65 - Using the PVP Index to Create Your Ideal Customer Profile 17.11.2022

Trying to market to multiple ICPs can be a huge mistake for many companies, especially those on a budget. When you try to be everything to everyone, you water down your message across the board and confuse the audience. That’s why niching down with your ICP is so important. In this episode, Tory and Allison talk about a new framework to decide which ICP you should niche down on first. Join Stackin...

S2 E64 - 5 Marketing Trends To Improve Brand Engagement | Stacking Growth Live 10.11.2022

On this episode of Stack Growth, our very own Tory Kindlick  and Victoria Sakal were joined by two of our friends from Centerline Digital ( Greg Harbinson , Creative Director & Fabian Marquex , Creative Director), to discuss 5 Trends to Improve Brand Engagement: How to Create Authentic Content How to Deliver Account-Based Experiences Leveraging Third-Party Experts How to Drive Better Bran...

S2 E63 - It's Time To Update Outdated Sales Territory Models | Hayes Davis 08.11.2022

The way we carve up sales territories has been around for over a century, an arbitrary geographic location. But the way we sell has changed drastically, especially in the last decade. So why in today’s age of selling are leaders still splitting up territories this way? And is there a better way? We asked Hayes Davis, Co-Founder and CEO at Gradient Works, and he says there is. In fact, he’s so conv...

S2 E62 - How to Create Content With Strategy AND Distribution in Mind | Sam Balter 05.11.2022

We've all been trained to create once and distribute forever. But is that really the best way to create content? Each platform is different, meaning that for your content to be as effective as it can be, you need to optimize each piece of content being put out for the channel it's intended for. In this episode, Tory and Matt talked to Sam Balter , Director of Media Content at Zoominfo and he share...

S2 E61 - Crafting a Narrative with Data Storytelling | LinkedIn Live 03.11.2022

“Facts Tell. Stories Sell” - Tory Kindlick You need to find a way to tell a story that your audience can resonate with. Stories are memorable and raw data is not. That’s why it is so important to be able to craft a narrative through the data you are presenting. So what do good stories contain and how can you incorporate those elements into your data storytelling? A good story starts with a hook A...

S2 E60 - A Deep Dive into Paid Search FAQs 01.11.2022

In this episode, we dive deep into some of the most common questions we see on paid media. Sam Kuehnle talks with some of our expert performance marketing managers here at Refine Labs including Bob Kahns, Ryan Olestro, and Kyle Taylor to address: Optimizing for down funnel performance vs conversions Should we be investing in branded search? Should you be following Google Recommendations? How much...

S2 E59 - Ask Us Anything: DDG and PMM Edition | Stacking Growth Live 29.10.2022

In this episode, our panel of DDGs and PMMs includes Matt Willbanks, Matthew Sciannella, Jonathan Unger, and Bob Kahns. We took questions from the audience which included:  - How would you create demand for a new category as a marketing team of one? - If starting from scratch, what's the recommended strategy for LinkedIn Ads? - How do you make the jump from performance marketing to demand gen...

S2 E58 - The 5 Stages of Building a Revenue-Driving Podcast | Lindsay Tjepkema 27.10.2022

Most marketing teams know that building a successful podcast involves more than just building an audience: that podcast and the audience it serves need to, eventually, contribute to actual revenue dollars. But a lot of podcasters fall into the trap where they get wrapped up in vanity metrics or don't have a mapped-out strategy to turn a podcast into a revenue-driving marketing tool. In this episod...

S2 E57 - How-To Crush This Q4 Without Sacrificing Long Term Momentum 25.10.2022

You know the situation: Q4 hits. You're under paced to goal because everyone likes to forecast up and to the right, so Q4 has some pretty steep goals. The only problem is, Q4 is also the shortest quarter of the year; holidays, people using PTO, everyone is burned out, and a general slowdown in spending. So the question begs to be answered, "what can I do to achieve those hefty goals?"  In thi...

S2 E56 - It's About Time We Talk Outbound | Jessica Watts 22.10.2022

In this episode, Carl and Cassidy are talking to Jessica Watts, Co-Founder at Mud City about everything outbound. Some of the topics they cover include: - Destigmatizing Outbound Sales - List Building - Value Props and Messaging - Commonalities Between Sales and Marketing - And More... Join Stacking Growth Live every other Wednesday at 1:00 PM ET by Registering here .

S2 E55 - Launching a Successful Demand Gen Program | Grant Duncan 20.10.2022

Launching a successful demand gen program is something that a lot of marketing leaders strive for. But it's easier said than done. Common hurdles include: - Crafting a compelling point of view - Outlining a strategy - Getting buy-in from the C-Suite - Executing on both paid media spend and organic channels - And more... These are all the things that Grant Duncan has done successfully in his time a...

S2 E54 - Marketing, Customer Success, and Telling Powerful Stories | Madelyn DePrey 18.10.2022

Marketing and Customer Success are frequently viewed as separate parts of the organization. Marketing is typically categorized as a pre-sales role, while customer success is generally viewed as a post-sales function. Sure, there are the occasional asks where marketing needs a customer testimonial or case study, but those are not typically high priorities from either side. But what if that changed?...

S2 E53 - Using Customer Research to Power Your Go-To-Market Strategy | Dave Rigotti 15.10.2022

Listening to customers to continuously improve your product is key for any company. But it's a step that many new SaaS founders skip in the initial stages of their go-to-market. Often, a founder will discover a gap in the market and go straight into building the product. In this episode, Sidney talks to Dave Rigotti, Co-founder, and CEO at Inflection.io. Dave has put on a masterclass in using exte...

S2 E52 - Pipeline Velocity Deep Dive | Stacking Growth Live 13.10.2022

Pipeline Velocity is an often confused, misunderstood metric. Every time we bring it up we get several questions. That's why we wanted to dedicate an episode of Stacking Growth Live entirely to the subject and: - How to Calculate Pipeline Velocity - How to visualize that data - Why it's important - When to use it - And more This was a live presentation that included slides. If you'd like to see th...

S2 E51 - How to Build Out Your ICP: Creating an Ideal Customer Profile That Goes Beyond the Obvious 11.10.2022

The Stacking Growth Podcast aims to answer real questions that our audience is having trouble with. That's why we took a poll of our LinkedIn audience to see what problems they were facing coming into Q4. One of the recurring questions that we saw come up had to do with how to create an ICP (Ideal Customer Profile). What's is the right way to do it? Is there a wrong way? How can we go deeper than...

S2 E50 - You've Heard About Creating Demand, Let's Talk About Damming Demand 08.10.2022

If you've been following Refine Labs for any period of time, you know we like to categorize demand into two main buckets, capturing and creating. But there is a third bucket that we don't talk about quite as much called damming demand. In a nutshell, damming demand is taking existing demand for a product or category and redirecting it over to yours. In this episode, Tory and Garret talk about what...

S2 E49 - $1,000 Says You Can’t Show Me a Profitable Lead Gen Program - Carl Ferreira 06.10.2022

If you scroll through LinkedIn for a few days you would think that everyone is running demand gen and lead gen is a thing of the past—it's not. We've talked to several hundred companies this year and 99% are still running lead gen. An entire generation of marketers believes that an email address is the most important thing you can get from your audience. It’s why we see gated ebooks and reports as...

S2 E48 - You Launched Your New Demand Strategy, Now What? 04.10.2022

You pitched leadership, finally got buy-in, and just launched your program; now what? It's inevitable that you get questioned on the effectiveness of your new strategy early on, but creating demand takes time. So what are some early metrics and KPIs that you can report on to show leadership that it's working? In this episode, Ashley and Evan go through some of the early metrics that they report on...

S2 E47 - Finishing Off the Year Strong | Stacking Growth Live AMA 29.09.2022

We get a lot of questions from customers and community members this time of year on how to finish the year off strong and plan to have a successful Q1. "What are some of the biggest mistakes you see marketing teams make as the fiscal year wraps up?" "Are there any frameworks you use to build a marketing plan?" "Where are you allocating your budget moving into 2023 and where do you think the bigges...

S2 E46 - Good Marketing Takes Time 27.09.2022

On today's Stacking Growth, Refine Labs' very own Sam Kuehnle and Sidney Waterfall breakdown an intriguing question sent in by a listener: "How do you deal with the paradox of wanting immediate results but needing to preach patience to your executive team?" From setting expectations to finding the right customer insights... believe it or not, good marketing takes time. Join Stacking Growth Live ev...

S2 E45 - Growing Your Business Through Customer Conversations 24.09.2022

At this point you all know our stance on talking to customers and extracting insights through those conversations. But some of the common questions we still get all the time are:  "what is the best way to conduct a customer interview?"  "What questions should I ask?" "How do I take insights gleaned from a customer interview and inject them into my marketing strategy?" In this episode, To...

S2 E44 - Annual Demand Planning: A Framework 22.09.2022

It's that time of year—leaves are changing, football is back, and it's time for ANNUAL PLANNING! It's time to look back at the previous year, figure out what's been working and start to think about the campaigns and revenue targets for 2023. In this episode, Tory and Allison go through the framework they use with clients for year-end demand planning. Join Stacking Growth Live every other Wednesday...

S2 E43 - How To Execute a Winning Event Strategy 20.09.2022

Events in the past were all about getting a booth, flying in all your salespeople, scanning badges, and having conversations on the show floor. But that’s not how the best marketing teams are approaching event strategy anymore. The best strategies involve building relationships, creating content, and leaving a lasting impression. So how do you do that through your event strategy in 2022 and beyond...

S2 E42: How To Do a Win/Loss Analysis To Uncover Incredible New Insights 17.09.2022

One of the most informative things you can do as a demand gen marketer is do a win/loss analysis. A win/loss analysis can do many things including validating messaging, help refine your ICP, inform your content strategy, and more. Some teams are already looking into why deals are lost, but it’s rare to see companies analyzing and comparing the reasons you won deals. Looking into both of these item...

S2 E41 - Behind the Scenes: The Secret to Innovative Creative | Stacking Growth Live 15.09.2022

When asked about marketing innovation teams are quick to reference customer insights, category creation, and creating demand. And these are all very important things (that we preach at Refine Labs often). But there's one thing that is often overlooked and is a critical part of making all of these other strategies successful—Creative! Without an innovative creative strategy to deliver the message o...

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