Stacking Growth | The B2B Marketing Podcast

Imagine being part of a sales-led organization where the SALES team is asking marketing to stop running lead gen and start creating demand. It's a role reversal that we don't often hear, but it's the exact situation that an audience member came to us with. "What steps can I take to get my marketing team to stop running gated lead gen and start creating real demand for our brand?" In this episode,...

An economic downturn can bring a lot of difficulties for a marketing team. Decreased media spend and decreased budget for tech from customers both lead to lower overall demand in the marketplace. When demand is lower, marketing teams have to focus on the levers they can influence, independent of those variables. In this episode, Sam and Sidney talk about the 4 levers that every marketer can pull t...

Many companies that run an enterprise, sales-led motion are now using some form of product-led growth to move down market. This poses a lot of problems for some demand-gen marketers, as it requires a different approach in both strategy and tactics to be successful. In this episode, Allison and Tory dive into the framework that we've been implementing with clients facing this here at Refine Labs. J...

In the second part of our series on variable comp vs salary for salespeople Carl and Cassidy are taking questions from LinkedIn. Variable comp vs salary is a heated topic and salespeople had a lot of really good questions including: How to you test salary if you’re already using 50/50 comp? How does it affect the buyer experience? How do you measure performance? Join Stacking Growth Live every oth...

Relying on people to click your ad's CTA is destroying its effectiveness. Providing the full value in the feed will win out every time and we're here to prove that to you. Curious how you can do the same internally? People don't want to leave the platform they're already engaged with. 99% of the time, even if someone is engaged with your ad, they're not clicking. So if your strategy is to use your...

Sales almost always work on a base salary + commission or 100% commission. Most companies don't offer salespeople guaranteed salaries for many reasons. But the question is why? There's no other function in the business that is paid the same way sales are. Some companies will say that they can't attract top talent without the ability to crush quota and earn uncapped commission. In this episode, Cas...

Does paid media influence how well a company’s marketing performs? It's a question that most marketers can relate to, but one that nobody is willing to test, because turning off paid media to see isn't an option. Well, in this episode we did just that—we tested the impact of paid marketing's correlation with organic marketing. Join Sam Kuehle and Ashley Lewin as they break down the test and result...

As marketers, it's very common to become overwhelmed with data. It's important to use data to tell a story, but when doing that, you have to know which pieces to use and what is just noise. In this episode, Ashley Lewin and Evan Hughes talk about how to choose the right data to tell your story, how to structure your data story, and avoid overwhelming your audience when presenting that data. Join S...

In this episode our General Manager, Sidney Waterfall , dishes out the best ways to create demand for your target accounts. She goes over Demand 101, Reach, and Tactics as a basic strategy to get your demand creation flowing and demand capture going. Keep an eye out for more Stacking Growth Live in the near future. 

Whether you want benchmark data or you're trying to convince your leadership that you need to be investing more time and resources into demand creation, this Stacking Growth Live is for you. We analyzed pipeline source data from six B2B SaaS companies running the Refine Labs demand playbook. We looked at: - Pipe conversions (declared intent website conversions) - Enterprise Outbound/”ABX”/Engaged...

You're a marketer who is totally bought into creating demand. You presented to your leadership and they agree and you're now just getting started on your demand gen journey. The common question that comes up is, "when can we expect to start seeing results?"  In this episode, Allison and Tory dive into that question exactly, but they go even further. They will touch on expectation setting to m...

This episode is summed up with a simple question: What is marketing at your org trying to accomplish and what is necessary from a tech stack perspective to simplify and make that process as efficient and effective as possible? Marketing is not the promotion department, or at least it isn't in companies doing marketing correctly. Good marketing should be aligned with business metrics, so in essence...

Over the past few years, B2B SaaS marketing teams have embraced the fact that they need to invest more in demand creation functions. In order to do that, budget has to be taken from current demand capture spend. The question is, what deserves to stay and what should be reallocated to demand creation? In this episode, Tory Kindlick talks with Sam Kuehle about the formula he has used to determine ju...

This is the first episode in a new series we are calling "Lab Experiments", where we talk to client-facing members of our team about the tests that they are currently running and the results that they are getting. In this episode, Tory Kindlick is talking with Ashley Lewin about a test she ran around messaging and positioning and how it led to a 40% increase in conversion rates.

Marketing and sales have a...colorful past to say the least. Marketing complains that sales doesn't follow up on their leads. Sales complains that the leads that marketing gives are not worth following up with. In many cases, both are true.  But when marketing switches their strategy from generating high quantities of leads at any cost, which is the reason for the poor quality, it's no wonder...

Tory Kindlick hosted today's Stacking Growth episode with Darren Perucci to share tips about marketing with a reduced budget. We are seeing budgets being cut especially across the SaaS space due to the economic downturn, and as marketers we are being asked to do more with less. 

This episode consists of a recording from Sidney Waterfall 's appearance on the Demand Gen Chat podcast, hosted by Chili Piper. They talked through leading indicators, measuring the impact of dark social, and the importance of gathering feedback directly from your customers. 

On last week's Stacking Growth Live , we covered a timely topic - how to shift your marketing strategy to match what's happening in the market. It's clear we are headed into a recession. Budgets are being slashed and therefore, there isn't as much demand to capture. In last week's event, we talked through manufacturing demand, customer insights and marketing's role in the shift, and budget & t...

Tory Kindlick (VP of Demand Gen) hosted a solo episode today where he broke down the 5 most common traits he's observed in the B2B SaaS companies that are most successful with creating demand. 

Carl Ferreira and Cassidy Shield recorded a Friday afternoon conversation about the lack of innovation in outbound sales compared to that of marketing. They talk through why that is, how to bridge the gap, providing value and data as part of your outbound motion, and the four key components to outbound sales. By the end of the episode, you should have a handful of ideas for experimenting with inno...

Today's episode consists of a recording from last week's Stacking Growth LIVE event, where Cassidy Shield , Tory Kindlick and Darren Perucci talked through whether or not brand and demand should be on the same team. They talked through definitions, org structure, roles and responsibilities, the nuances between brand marketing and demand marketing, and the similarities between the two.

Today's episode consists of a recorded conversation between Sam Kuehnle (VP of Demand Gen) and Tom Hunt (Founder at Fame) where Sam talks through how B2B buying has changed and how marketing orgs should be shifting their go-to-market strategies accordingly.

Today's episode features a casual conversation between Carl Ferreira and Cassidy Shield about the state of outbound sales today.

Nick Bennett (Director of Evangelism and Customer Marketing @ Alyce) and Arthur Castillo (Senior Manager, Field Marketing & Community @ Chili Piper) joined Stacking Growth LIVE last week as guests to discuss how to leverage content and community in both B2B SaaS and their personal brands.  *Snippets of this episode are spotty due to poor internet connection*

Cassidy Shield (CGO), Victoria Sakal (The Vault), Daniel Pinkston (Performance Marketing Manager) and Myles Madden (Performance Marketing Manager) hosted today's Stacking Growth episode to talk about measuring brand and demand creation. They cover leading and lagging indicators, adopting a long-term mindset, how and where to create demand, and which qualitative and quantitative metrics you should...