Sober Not Mature

Hey! It's Mike and Bill again and it's our first Live Stream episode! The full audio is still here, but if you want to check out the video, visit us on YouTube - sobernotmature (and let us know what you think!) Mike did his reading and it was about the Serenity Pray. It's something that we used a lot in the beginning and still use at times and we had a good conversation. We received a...

Happy Freakin' New Year! Well, it's almost that time and it's your favorite fellas joining you this week. Mike's reading was about the New Year and we talked about what it was like then and what it's like now. (sounds kinda familiar) We talked about an annoying word and we gave an update on the number of "F" words from the last episode. It was a lot. Then on to square...

This week we have a gift for you. Yep, it's us. Just in time for Christmas. Mike did his reading and it was about the gifts that we get these days. Interesting lives and a world that is wide open. No more boredom and lives that have no meaning. Then we jumped into the 12th Step and talked about what it means to us and why it's so important. We had a couple of announcements about our friend...

This week it's just us and Mike and his girlfriend are in Mexico! We started off with Mike's reading and it talked about how we all do this sober thing the same way, but also just a little bit differently. The same path, with slight (and unique) variances. Then some nice comments from a listener and a follower. A short story about another podcast and proof that we don't always think be...

This week we have Mara! @marajsankin Another really, really good friend from Cleveland. We had a lot of fun with this conversation, but recovery is serious business with Mara. This is not her first run at this and she told us what happened and how she came back to sobriety. She also taught us a new word... "sodriety." (listen and you'll hear what it means.) The most important part of...

This week we have Nico Morales @nohalonm Nico joins us from New Mexico and took the time to walk us through all of the things that brought him down. He started using at 14 and gave up family and everything else that meant something to him. Then he found a solution. He doesn't follow the same path as we do, but we are all headed in the same direction and we talked about the similarities, rather...

It's the Gratitude Episode, with your friends, Mike and Bill! Mike did his reading and yep, it was about gratitude. The importance of saying thank you, being kind and being better than we used to be. Then we did a recap of the sober retreat that we went to last weekend. It was fun, engaging and we highly recommend attending a retreat. It was wonderful. We did have a slight "run in" w...

Yep, this week it's Mike and Bill and an early release, since we have a busy weekend ahead of us. Mike did his reading and it was about how "we" see alcohol and drugs, how "we" become fools when we drink, what we lose when we drink and ultimately what we gain when we stick around. Then we chatted for a few minutes about chaos. The life of chaos that we used to live and the...

This week we have Michael! Our really, really good friend from Cleveland and one of our sober friends for over 13 years. Michael told us a little bit about how he got here, but more importantly, why he stays here. We talked about The Keating Center and the 3/4 house that we were all at. Then about the woman that he met, who became his wife and the mother of his 2 beautiful daughters. There were po...

It's your friends, Mike and Bill this week! And we had some things to talk about. Mike did his reading and it was about monsters and miracles. Pretty much a then and now when it comes to folks like us, and we had a nice conversation about it. Then on to Step 11 (Since it's the 11th month) and it deals with prayer and meditation. We both work this step every day, but maybe differently than...

Yay! Just Mike and Bill this week. Eh, it is what it is, right? Mike did his reading and it was about responsibility. Certainly something that most of us lacked before we got sober, so it was a good conversation. Then we inadvertently got into a conversation about sponsors and sponsees. The main thing is that "we" can't keep anyone sober, but we can offer guidance and experience. We...

This week we have Heidi! @moonwater_motherearth Our good friend and "bestie" from Cleveland. She walked us through a little bit about what got her here (which was actually a guy), and then the goof stuff. What her life is like today. From not knowing how she would do anything without a substance, to a life that is full beyond her wildest dreams. And yes, she said the line... "It&#39...

Yeah... it's Mike and Bill again this week. We recorded on Thursday this week and it's Bill's son's birthday! Mike did his reading and it was about instincts, impulses and the dreaded idea of growing up. We have "not mature" in the name of our podcast, but even we have grown up. A little bit. It did make for a good conversation though. Then we talked briefly about "t...

Well, it's just the two of us again and we actually had quite a bit to talk about. Mike did his reading and it was about choices. They are lost while we are drinking, but when we get sober, we have a "sense' of choice again. It was a good reading and a good discussion. It's October, the tenth month, so we dove into the 10th Step. Personally, we both feel like this step is a big on...

Yep, just Mike and Bill this week and we were a little punchy, but in a fun way... Mike did his reading, and as always it was a good one, that turned into a great conversation. Faith, openness, higher powers and light switches. (it will make sense when you listen) We talked about the trip that Bill took, some old feelings and a story from a meeting that he went to in the bible belt. Lot's of G...

This week we have Carly and Breeze! @carlyannmariereed @_breezexx We had a great conversation with them and it was amazing how much we all have in common. They are young and we are old, but we all ended up in the same place. Kind of cool. They gave us some background and then they told us about this wonderful thing that they are doing called, Trust Your Message @trustyourmess_age Carly and Breeze...

This week we have Katie! She is Bill's son's girlfriend, a young person, a normie and she is a Mental Health Technician. We had a great conversation with her and she walked us through what she does, how she got there and what she enjoys about it. She works with individuals who are struggling with mental health and she often works with people who are starting their recovery journey.  We als...

This week we have Gary! He has listened to us for a while and approached us a couple of months ago. It took a little bit to fit him into the schedule, but we are glad that we did. He walked us through his childhood, the trauma that he dealt with and how he drank. Drinking took away the negatives and as with many of us, he never had just one. Then he walked us through the steps, in story form, and...

Just Mike and I this week, but we did have a lot to talk about. We had a whole sheet full of notes, but really only talked about a few things. Mike's reading had to do with the concept of "progress not perfection," and we know about that all too well. Then we jumped into Step 9, because it actually is September already! That was a great conversation and one that I think everyone can...

Holy cow, it's Season 4! And to start it off, we have Mike from Sober Press. @soberpress First of all, with 2 "Mike's," I tried to set up a nickname for the resident Mike, but I couldn't seem to keep that straight. I tried though... Mike from Sober Press has become what we consider an Instagram friend and we have had plenty of conversations and interactions with him on the so...

This week it's Mike and I and we are recording late! Listen and find out why, but it did make us a little punchy, but in a fun way. Mike had a great reading this week and then we jumped into Step 8 for a little bit. It turned into a good conversation and one that may be helpful to some people. A very good friend of ours passed away recently, but he died sober. He "graduated." We told...

This week it's our good friend Gretchen (G). We had her on before (Episode 31) and she's back to talk about her knee surgery and how she dealt with the procedure, the pain, the meds and the overall recovery. And she did it all sober. Then we talked about the pains we all have. Getting old has its challenges. Mike did his reading and it had to do with acceptance. Coincidentally, G has been...

This week we have Alysse, founder of The Sober Curator. @thesobercurator You may have read some of our posts as far as how we became acquainted and if not, we do talk about it briefly. Alysse is truly one of us and she has 17 years sober. She has had her ups and downs, successes and failures and she does a great job of walking us through her story. We heard a lot of things that we have heard befor...

This week we have Alex "King Roach" Montañez @ImKingRoach Alex approached us a few months ago to be on and after a few adjustments and date changes, we were able to have a great conversation with him. He gave us a brief background about what happened and why he got sober, and then we got right into the fun stuff... what he is up to now. He started his company www.dominatetheglobe.com in...

Yep, it's Mike and Bill again. Fresh off a weekend of bikers, Jetts, Foos and a bad "hotel" experience. But, it was a great weekend. We started off with Mike's weekly reading and it was a good one. All about service and we got into a conversation about what we do for service. Is it enough? Will it ever be enough? Listen and find out. Then we recapped the weekend and we have some...