Jennifer Chaiken, LMFT and Emmalee Bierly, LMFT
ShrinkChicks
Emmalee Bierly, LMFT and Jennifer Chaiken, LMFT, owners and co-founders of The Therapy Group (@thetherapygrp), bring you the ShrinkChicks Podcast. ShrinkChicks is on a mission to make therapy and therapeutic topics more relatable and accessible. Each Monday, Emmalee and Jen will explore different mental health topics and invite you to sit in on their insight, humor, and knowledge, leaving the psychobabble behind.
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Episodes
The Comparison Trap: Why Do We Do It? 12.05.2025 40:16
On this week's episode of ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are exploring the topic of comparing ourselves to others. They discuss why we engage in comparison, two different types of comparison, insecurity and comparison, the role social media plays (hint: it's a big one), how to be intentional with social media consumption, using comparison as helpful information to understand what you want, comparin...
Why Is It So Hard to Say No? 05.05.2025 36:13
This week on ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are back to recording in person at West Chester Studios and unpacking the difficulty behind saying no. They discuss our fears about saying no, why we tend to believe others are going to react negatively to our “no," the resentment that arises when we ignore our boundaries, preferring internal distress over external distress, what we get wrong about bounda...
Navigating Differences Within Your Relationship 28.04.2025 33:59
On this week's episode of ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are talking about the ways in which we're all different from our partners - from attachment styles, to conflict/resolution styles, to love languages, and political views. They discuss the various ways these differences show up in relationships, how to communicate through the differences for a deeper understanding of one another, conflict styl...
Sometimes The Goal is Just Survival 21.04.2025 36:07
This week on ShrinkChicks, Emmalee shares a recent experience that reminded her that we are allowed to just survive and that we don’t have to constantly work toward "healing" or "growing." Em and Jen talk about radical acceptance, burnout, living in the present moment, shame spirals, control, and so much more. Tune in to hear their humanity and for permission that we're all allowed to take breaks...
Who You Think You “Should” Be vs. Who You Are 14.04.2025 37:05
On this week's episode of ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are talking all about the "shoulds." They discuss how the "shoulds" or certain, specific expectations of ourselves connect to control, anxiety, and depression, battling the "shoulds" when other people are in a phase of life you envy, why comparison is so innate, what to do when others have expectations for you or of you, what it actually mean...
Why Do We Get Authenticity Hangovers? 07.04.2025 35:30
This week on ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are talking all about vulnerability and why being vulnerable can feel so good...until it doesn’t. They discuss vulnerability, rejection, and self-protection, where the fear of being seen can stem from, authenticity and the fear of judgment, corrective experiences to regain trust, how to work on vulnerability in therapy, real vulnerability vs. unbridled se...
Avoidance Does Not Equal Healing 31.03.2025 38:42
On this week's episode of ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are dissecting the difference between avoidance and healing. They start the episode off by explaining how to recognize the difference in your own life and how they can tell the difference in theirs. Emmalee and Jen discuss when saying "no" is a boundary and when it is avoidance, the ability to call out your avoidance as the first step of heal...
What Do We Do About Burnout? 24.03.2025 43:47
This week on ShrinkChicks, Mercury is in retrograde, so naturally, Emmalee's flight got canceled. Nikki, Emmalee and Jen's producer, is filling in and joining Jen to talk about all things burnout. Jen and Nikki discuss the early signs of burnout & how to recognize it, the personality types that are prone to burnout, the various professions at risk of ignoring burnout, and two different kinds o...
The Fear of Being "Too Much" 17.03.2025 35:47
On this week's episode of ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are diving into the fear of being "too much." They start the episode by sharing what "too much" means to both of them and where the feeling/fear can stem from. Emmalee and Jen talk about how we, as a society, feel about authenticity and how that plays a role in the label of "too much." They discuss shame, societal expectations as women, how t...
Why Is Dating So Terrible? 10.03.2025 39:16
This week on ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are joined by the ever-insightful author, dating coach, screenwriter, and fellow podcaster Allison Raskin to talk all things dating and relationships! The episode begins with Emmalee and Jen learning about Allison's own personal journey and how it led her to help others navigate romantic relationships. They discuss how dating has changed over time, the re...
Just Two Therapists with ADHD 03.03.2025 40:22
This week on ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are covering a long awaited episode topic: ADHD. They share about their ADHD diagnoses, when they were diagnosed, and their different experiences living with ADHD. Emmalee and Jen discuss the difference between men and women with ADHD including the age of diagnosis and presentation, shame that can arise from ADHD, what masking is and why we do it, emotion...
Green Flags: The Underrated Signs of a Healthy Partnership 24.02.2025 37:57
On this week's episode of ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are sharing their thoughts on green flags in relationships and the signs of a healthy partnership. They discuss both green flags when first dating and green flags within the relationship once it is established. Em and Jen answer your questions about the feeling of unfamiliarity that can occur when dating someone with green flags, how to tell...
Balancing Family Dynamics AND Your Relationship 17.02.2025 38:46
This week on ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are talking all about balancing family dynamics along with your relationship with your significant other. They're also discussing this from YOUR perspective and the balance that your significant other strikes between you and their family of origin. They cover topics like the natural insecurity in the in-law relationship and why it can be harder to set bou...
Is it Me? Recognizing Your Patterns in Your Relationship 10.02.2025 37:47
On this week's episode of ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are answering your questions about how to recognize your own patterns in your relationships. The episode starts off with some big news from Emmalee! Then, Em and Jen talk about the insight, awareness, and action needed in order to understand the patterns within your relationship. They discuss why we seek familiarity from our childhood in roma...
Understanding Obsessive Compulsive Disorder 03.02.2025 41:43
This week on ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are so excited to sit down with Alegra Kastens, LMFT! Alegra is the founder of the Center for OCD, Anxiety, and Eating Disorders . She specializes both in the treatment of Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD) AND has her own lived experience with OCD. Alegra gives us all a greater understanding of what OCD looks like and the different ways it can present...
What is High Functioning Codependency? 27.01.2025 50:11
On this week's episode of ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are thrilled to be joined by the one and only Terri Cole, licensed psychotherapist, author, speaker, and global expert in relationships and empowerment! Terri is here to share her infinite wisdom and tell us all about her new book Too Much . Too Much focuses on the concept that Terri coined called High Functioning Codependency (HFC). Terri e...
How Do I Build Self-Trust? 20.01.2025 35:02
This week on ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are answering your questions about self-trust and holding yourself accountable in a compassionate way. The episode begins by addressing the "shoulds" that can come with the start of the New Year and shame vs. self-compassion when it comes to setting goals. Em and Jen discuss self-trust, where it stems from, and how to work on strengthening it. They answer...
When Birth Doesn't Go as Planned 13.01.2025 45:37
On this week's episode of ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen sit down with one of their dear friends, Kayleigh Summers, LCSW. Kayleigh, aka The Birth Trauma Mama, shares her vulnerable birth trauma story and details how the experience led her to where she is today. Kayleigh discusses topics like toxic positivity when it comes to trauma, why “getting over it” is not the goal, others invalidating birth t...
Questions You’re Too Scared To Ask Your Therapist 06.01.2025 41:17
This week on ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are talking through your questions and confessions that you're too scared to ask and tell your therapist! They cover topics like asking your therapist what your diagnosis is, processing the fear of judgment in therapy, and what is "too personal" of a question to ask your therapist (such as, do they have a toxic MIL, too?). Em and Jen discuss looking up yo...
Rewind: Inner Child Work & Wounds 23.12.2024 40:20
The holidays are upon us, and Emmalee and Jen are taking a break from a new episode to spend time with their loved ones and recharge for the New Year! This week, they wanted to re-release the episode Inner Child Work & Wounds as this time of year can bring up a LOT. The episode begins with Emmalee and Jen explaining what inner child work actually entails. They discuss inner child wounds and ho...
Surviving The Holiday Season (Continued) 16.12.2024 39:46
This week on ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are sharing the second part of their two-part series, where they answer your questions about how to survive the holidays this season! They discuss how to bring back childhood and holiday joy, what to do if your kid doesn’t react positively when given a present, the mental load of the holidays, transitioning from your family of origin to the creation of yo...
Surviving the Holiday Season 09.12.2024 36:48
On this week's episode of ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are sharing part one of a two-part series where they answer your questions about how to survive the holidays this season! They discuss how to protect your peace, regressing when you’re home for the holidays, navigating splitting the holidays with your partner’s family, building up your distress tolerance when it comes to disappointing others,...
Riding The Waves of Grief 02.12.2024 38:11
This week on ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are joined by the incredible Dr. Shoshana Ungerleider, an internal medicine physician, a leading voice in healthcare, founder and board president of End Well , and host of the Before We Go podcast (@ beforewegopodcast )! Shoshana shares her personal story of grief, anticipatory grief, and dealing with her own mortality. Emmalee, Jen, and Shoshana discu...
Rewind: Decision Paralysis 25.11.2024 41:16
This week on ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are re-sharing one of their favorite episodes while they take a little Thanksgiving break. This time of year is filled with decisions, both big and small, and Em and Jen are validating the various challenges that can come when making decisions. They talk through what makes us freeze when faced with a decision, analysis paralysis that comes with an abundan...
The Relationship Between Spite & Motivation 18.11.2024 37:57
This week on ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are talking about spite and motivation. They start the episode off by discussing both of their ADHD diagnoses and how motivation, for them, can be hard to come by. Then, they define spite by explaining the two different types and discussing the motivation behind proving people wrong. Emmalee and Jen share how spite was the catalyst for starting their busi...
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