Jennifer Chaiken, LMFT and Emmalee Bierly, LMFT
ShrinkChicks
Emmalee Bierly, LMFT and Jennifer Chaiken, LMFT, owners and co-founders of The Therapy Group (@thetherapygrp), bring you the ShrinkChicks Podcast. ShrinkChicks is on a mission to make therapy and therapeutic topics more relatable and accessible. Each Monday, Emmalee and Jen will explore different mental health topics and invite you to sit in on their insight, humor, and knowledge, leaving the psychobabble behind.
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Episodes
Emmalee's Birth Story 14.07.2025 38:33
This week on ShrinkChicks, you all get to meet Birdie, Em's newborn daughter! Emmalee shares her birth story and how her expectations for labor went completely out the window. She discusses dealing with unmet or different expectations, why comparison to others or even yourself can be challenging when it comes to birth and postpartum, information overload & control, medication during pregnancy,...
Rewind: How to Stop Taking Sh*t Personally 07.07.2025 40:57
Emmalee and Jen are taking the week off from a new episode to practice what they preach and allow themselves a break to recharge. In this rewind episode, they teach us how to stop taking sh*t so personally. They discuss where taking things personally may stem from, times when we are more prone to taking things personally, and sensitivity to rejection. Then, Em and Jen answer your questions about c...
Why Rejection is SO Painful 30.06.2025 38:31
On this week's episode of ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are talking about the painful emotion of rejection. They discuss why rejection stings so badly, how to reframe and depersonalize rejection, logic vs. emotion when it comes to rejection, why it can make many of us shut down, how to start to get more comfortable with rejection, and so much more! Tune in to gain insight, awareness, and action! P...
Self-Sabotage & Why We Do It 23.06.2025 37:34
This week on ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are talking about self-sabotage and why we do it. They discuss how to identify if you’re self sabotaging, the different ways self-sabotage can present itself, if they consider themselves self-sabotagers, self-criticism vs. self-compassion, how self-sabotaging behaviors can be a protective mechanism, avoidance, fear of failure and discomfort, and so much m...
What's My Conflict Language? 16.06.2025 35:37
On this week's episode of ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are talking about conflict languages! Much like love languages, we each gravitate toward certain patterns when in conflict. Em and Jen break down five different conflict languages to help you understand how you approach and navigate conflict. They discuss how to identify which conflict language(s) you speak, the avoidant + anxious dynamic in...
Confronting Your Conflict Avoidance 09.06.2025 36:52
This week on ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are confronting conflict avoidance! They discuss how they each handle conflict personally, the two ends of the spectrum: from avoidance to reactionary, the benefits and downfalls of conflict avoidance, the temporary discomfort for long-term relief, why practice makes progress, getting comfortable with your tears, and so much more! Em and Jen also share a...
Why Do We Chase Happiness? 02.06.2025 33:32
On this week's episode of ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are talking all about happiness. They discuss happiness as an unwavering state vs. an emotion just like any other, the difference between happiness and contentment, the role that toxic positivity plays, the pressure we may feel both internally and externally to be only happy during certain life milestones, our obsession with happiness as a...
Rewind: Forgiveness, Anger & Resentment 26.05.2025 36:16
Happy Memorial Day! Emmalee and Jen are taking the week off from a new episode to practice what they preach and allow themselves a break to recharge. In this rewind episode, they dive into the topics of forgiveness, anger, and resentment. Em and Jen discuss why forgiveness is for us and not for the other person, the parts of forgiveness that they struggle with, how anger and resentment play a role...
Meeting New Versions of Ourselves 19.05.2025 36:55
This week on ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are talking about the many versions of ourselves that evolve over time. They discuss comparing our past selves to our present selves, how to release old parts of ourselves while greeting new ones, the emotions of grief & loss occurring simultaneously with excitement & anticipation, radical acceptance and how it ties into meeting new versions of yo...
The Comparison Trap: Why Do We Do It? 12.05.2025 40:16
On this week's episode of ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are exploring the topic of comparing ourselves to others. They discuss why we engage in comparison, two different types of comparison, insecurity and comparison, the role social media plays (hint: it's a big one), how to be intentional with social media consumption, using comparison as helpful information to understand what you want, comparin...
Why Is It So Hard to Say No? 05.05.2025 36:13
This week on ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are back to recording in person at West Chester Studios and unpacking the difficulty behind saying no. They discuss our fears about saying no, why we tend to believe others are going to react negatively to our “no," the resentment that arises when we ignore our boundaries, preferring internal distress over external distress, what we get wrong about bounda...
Navigating Differences Within Your Relationship 28.04.2025 33:59
On this week's episode of ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are talking about the ways in which we're all different from our partners - from attachment styles, to conflict/resolution styles, to love languages, and political views. They discuss the various ways these differences show up in relationships, how to communicate through the differences for a deeper understanding of one another, conflict styl...
Sometimes The Goal is Just Survival 21.04.2025 36:07
This week on ShrinkChicks, Emmalee shares a recent experience that reminded her that we are allowed to just survive and that we don’t have to constantly work toward "healing" or "growing." Em and Jen talk about radical acceptance, burnout, living in the present moment, shame spirals, control, and so much more. Tune in to hear their humanity and for permission that we're all allowed to take breaks...
Who You Think You “Should” Be vs. Who You Are 14.04.2025 37:05
On this week's episode of ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are talking all about the "shoulds." They discuss how the "shoulds" or certain, specific expectations of ourselves connect to control, anxiety, and depression, battling the "shoulds" when other people are in a phase of life you envy, why comparison is so innate, what to do when others have expectations for you or of you, what it actually mean...
Why Do We Get Authenticity Hangovers? 07.04.2025 35:30
This week on ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are talking all about vulnerability and why being vulnerable can feel so good...until it doesn’t. They discuss vulnerability, rejection, and self-protection, where the fear of being seen can stem from, authenticity and the fear of judgment, corrective experiences to regain trust, how to work on vulnerability in therapy, real vulnerability vs. unbridled se...
Avoidance Does Not Equal Healing 31.03.2025 38:42
On this week's episode of ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are dissecting the difference between avoidance and healing. They start the episode off by explaining how to recognize the difference in your own life and how they can tell the difference in theirs. Emmalee and Jen discuss when saying "no" is a boundary and when it is avoidance, the ability to call out your avoidance as the first step of heal...
What Do We Do About Burnout? 24.03.2025 43:47
This week on ShrinkChicks, Mercury is in retrograde, so naturally, Emmalee's flight got canceled. Nikki, Emmalee and Jen's producer, is filling in and joining Jen to talk about all things burnout. Jen and Nikki discuss the early signs of burnout & how to recognize it, the personality types that are prone to burnout, the various professions at risk of ignoring burnout, and two different kinds o...
The Fear of Being "Too Much" 17.03.2025 35:47
On this week's episode of ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are diving into the fear of being "too much." They start the episode by sharing what "too much" means to both of them and where the feeling/fear can stem from. Emmalee and Jen talk about how we, as a society, feel about authenticity and how that plays a role in the label of "too much." They discuss shame, societal expectations as women, how t...
Why Is Dating So Terrible? 10.03.2025 39:16
This week on ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are joined by the ever-insightful author, dating coach, screenwriter, and fellow podcaster Allison Raskin to talk all things dating and relationships! The episode begins with Emmalee and Jen learning about Allison's own personal journey and how it led her to help others navigate romantic relationships. They discuss how dating has changed over time, the re...
Just Two Therapists with ADHD 03.03.2025 40:22
This week on ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are covering a long awaited episode topic: ADHD. They share about their ADHD diagnoses, when they were diagnosed, and their different experiences living with ADHD. Emmalee and Jen discuss the difference between men and women with ADHD including the age of diagnosis and presentation, shame that can arise from ADHD, what masking is and why we do it, emotion...
Green Flags: The Underrated Signs of a Healthy Partnership 24.02.2025 37:57
On this week's episode of ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are sharing their thoughts on green flags in relationships and the signs of a healthy partnership. They discuss both green flags when first dating and green flags within the relationship once it is established. Em and Jen answer your questions about the feeling of unfamiliarity that can occur when dating someone with green flags, how to tell...
Balancing Family Dynamics AND Your Relationship 17.02.2025 38:46
This week on ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are talking all about balancing family dynamics along with your relationship with your significant other. They're also discussing this from YOUR perspective and the balance that your significant other strikes between you and their family of origin. They cover topics like the natural insecurity in the in-law relationship and why it can be harder to set bou...
Is it Me? Recognizing Your Patterns in Your Relationship 10.02.2025 37:47
On this week's episode of ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are answering your questions about how to recognize your own patterns in your relationships. The episode starts off with some big news from Emmalee! Then, Em and Jen talk about the insight, awareness, and action needed in order to understand the patterns within your relationship. They discuss why we seek familiarity from our childhood in roma...
Understanding Obsessive Compulsive Disorder 03.02.2025 41:43
This week on ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are so excited to sit down with Alegra Kastens, LMFT! Alegra is the founder of the Center for OCD, Anxiety, and Eating Disorders . She specializes both in the treatment of Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD) AND has her own lived experience with OCD. Alegra gives us all a greater understanding of what OCD looks like and the different ways it can present...
What is High Functioning Codependency? 27.01.2025 50:11
On this week's episode of ShrinkChicks, Emmalee and Jen are thrilled to be joined by the one and only Terri Cole, licensed psychotherapist, author, speaker, and global expert in relationships and empowerment! Terri is here to share her infinite wisdom and tell us all about her new book Too Much . Too Much focuses on the concept that Terri coined called High Functioning Codependency (HFC). Terri e...
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