Ben Murray

SaaS Metrics School

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Ben Murray brings you actionable SaaS metrics lessons that he has learned through years of being in the SaaS CFO trenches. Whether you are new to SaaS or a SaaS veteran, learn the latest SaaS and AI metrics, finance, and accounting tactics that drive financial transparency and improved decision-making. Ben’s SaaS metrics blog consistently rates a 70+ NPS, and his templates have been downloaded over 100,000 times. There is always something to learn about SaaS and AI metrics.

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Ben Murray

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Business

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www.thesaasacademy.com

Latest episode

Oct 15, 2026

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Episodes

Renewal Rate vs. Retention: What SaaS Leaders Must Know 03.10.2025

Is renewal rate just another way of saying retention? Not exactly. In episode #316, Ben Murray breaks down the difference between renewal rate and the classic retention metrics—gross revenue retention (GRR), net revenue retention (NRR), and customer/logo retention. Ben explains why the renewal rate is the leading indicator of retention, especially when running annual or multi-year contracts, and w...

Defining AI ARR to Your Board and Investors 21.09.2025

Every Board, investor, and potential acquirer is asking the same question: How are AI initiatives driving revenue? In episode #315, Ben Murray shares insights from his research into public tech companies and how they’re defining and disclosing AI ARR (Annual Recurring Revenue). Using Verint as a case study, Ben explains how companies are leveraging AI-driven ARR, tying it to measurable outcomes, a...

Top Financial Metrics Tracked by Usage-based Companies 18.09.2025

Many usage-based companies like Twilio don’t disclose ARR as their North Star metric. So, what do they track instead to communicate growth and efficiency to investors? In episode #314, Ben Murray shares his research from 10-Q filings, press releases, and earnings calls to uncover the seven most common financial metrics that usage-based companies highlight. From revenue growth and gross margin impr...

5 Metrics Every SaaS Leader Must Master 16.09.2025

There are hundreds of SaaS metrics, but which ones truly matter for SaaS leaders who want to scale, raise capital, and maximize company valuation? In episode #313, Ben Murray breaks down the five essential metrics every SaaS executive must understand — whether you’re a founder, CFO, or operator. From bookings to retention, gross profit, OpEx, and the ROSE efficiency metric, you’ll learn how to rea...

Oracle Stock Jumps Over 30% Based On This One Metric 11.09.2025

Oracle’s stock recently jumped 37% — and the driver wasn’t just revenue growth or earnings per share. The market reacted to one SaaS metric: RPO (Remaining Performance Obligations), which surged 359% year-over-year. In episode #312, Ben Murray explains the RPO metric, how it’s calculated, and why investors are paying close attention to it. From Oracle’s $455B backlog to Snowflake’s disclosure prac...

SaaS COGS Explained: Get Gross Profit Right 07.09.2025

Your SaaS COGS (Cost of Goods Sold) is one of the most important foundations in your SaaS P&L — and getting it wrong can distort your gross profit margins, forecasts, SaaS metrics, investor metrics, and ultimately your valuation. In this episode, Ben Murray breaks down exactly what belongs in SaaS COGS, how to handle multi-hat employees, and why clean financial reporting is critical for scalin...

Understanding the SaaS Magic Number — Benchmarks, Nuances & Investor Insights 03.09.2025

The SaaS Magic Number is one of the most Googled SaaS metric posts — but it’s also one of the most misunderstood. In episode #310, Ben Murray explains what the SaaS Magic Number really measures, why investors care about it, and the benchmarks you should use to evaluate your own business model. From the formula (revenue growth vs. sales & marketing spend) to the nuances (why churn and expansion...

7 Metrics a Strategic Acquirer Wants to See in Your SaaS Business 28.08.2025

When a strategic acquirer or private equity firm comes knocking, they’ll ask for more than your headline ARR number. In episode #309, Ben Murray shares the seven critical numbers that buyers want to see before moving forward with a deal. These SaaS metrics and investor metrics are not only central to due diligence but also directly impact your company's valuation. From ARR and contracted ARR to re...

Customer Concentration Risk Will Kill Your Fundraise or Exit 23.08.2025

When preparing for fundraising or an exit to private equity, one overlooked metric can derail your deal: customer concentration risk. In episode #308, Ben Murray explains what customer concentration is, why it matters to investors, and how it can directly impact your SaaS valuation. If too much of your revenue comes from just one or two customers, that risk may scare off private equity buyers or l...

What Gross Margin Should I Use in CAC Payback Period 20.08.2025

The CAC payback period is one of the most important SaaS metrics — and a top investor metric used in boardrooms, fundraising, and valuation discussions. But here’s the nuance: which gross profit should you use when calculating it? In episode #307, Ben Murray explains why CAC payback must be gross margin adjusted and why using your company’s total blended gross margin is a mistake. Instead, you’ll...

Are AI Companies Out Funding Pure-Play SaaS? 14.08.2025

Is the AI funding boom overshadowing traditional SaaS ? In episode #306, Ben Murray shares fresh fundraising data from over 8,000 tracked funding events to see how AI-native companies compare to pure-play SaaS in investor activity. Analyzing the first week of August, Ben breaks down the percentage of companies that are AI-first and how many SaaS products now include AI features or LLM integrations...

Top SaaS Metrics When Scaling to $1M ARR 12.08.2025

What SaaS metrics and financial metrics really matter when you’re scaling toward your first $1 million in ARR? In episode #305, Ben Murray breaks down the essential numbers to track using his Five Pillar SaaS Metrics Framework. From building a strong accounting foundation to tracking investor metrics like retention, bookings, and gross profit, this episode gives you the tools to set your business...

The Top 3 SaaS Metrics That Drive Your SaaS Valuation 08.08.2025

What SaaS metrics actually move the needle on your company valuation? In episode #304, Ben Murray shares his “Power 3” SaaS metrics — the three investor metrics that consistently signal scalable growth and increase SaaS valuations. While many articles list “top metrics” without context, these three have proven to be the most impactful in boardrooms, investor meetings, and due diligence. If you wan...

How to Code Executive Expenses in Your SaaS P&L for Accurate Metrics 05.08.2025

Accurate expense coding is critical to building a clean SaaS P&L that drives investor confidence, valuation discussions, and clarity in internal metrics. In episode #303, Ben Murray explains exactly where SaaS operators should code executive-level expenses (CMO, CRO, VP of Services, CFO, etc.) and why coding accuracy is a non-negotiable for both SaaS metrics and investor metrics. Ben also high...

How to Align ARR Growth with Sales & Marketing Spend 30.07.2025

You’ve added new ARR—but are you spending too much to get it? In episode #302, Ben Murray walks through two practical ways to align your ARR growth with your sales and marketing spend. If you're unsure whether you're underinvesting, overspending, or just inefficient, this episode will help you benchmark your GTM motion using real data and operator-friendly metrics.  What You’ll Learn Two ways...

Is Revenue Recognition Messing Up Your Retention Numbers? 29.07.2025

Does your retention data feel off—or even meaningless—because of catch-up invoices, credit notes, or daily revenue recognition? In episode #301, Ben Murray explains how proper revenue recognition practices can sometimes interfere with clear retention reporting and what SaaS operators can do about it. Learn how to build a pro forma MRR schedule that strips out accounting noise and gives you clean,...

RPO Explained: The Overlooked SaaS Metric That Signals Growth 23.07.2025

RPO—Remaining Performance Obligations—might not be a term you hear often in private SaaS, but public companies are required to disclose it, and it’s becoming a critical forward-looking metric. In episode #300, Ben Murray breaks down the RPO concept, how it's calculated, and why it matters in understanding your future revenue. Whether you’re preparing for due diligence or just want a stronger grip...

How SaaS Companies Turn Usage Revenue into ARR 18.07.2025

How do usage-based SaaS companies convert transactional or variable revenue into Annual Recurring Revenue (ARR)? Episode #299 gives you a practical framework for presenting usage-based ARR to your Board, investors, and internal teams with clarity and confidence. After manually reviewing hundreds of public filings and investor materials, Ben Murray breaks down the real-world methods used by compani...

Want a Private Equity Exit? Start Tracking This Metric 16.07.2025

In episode #298 of SaaS Metrics School , Ben Murray dives deep into one of his favorite metrics: ROSE – Return on SaaS Employees . If you’re aiming to build a durable SaaS business or position your company for a private equity exit, this episode is a must-listen. Ben explains why ROSE is far more insightful than traditional Revenue per FTE and how it helps evaluate organizational efficiency by fac...

How to Handle Reactivation MRR in GRR vs NRR 12.07.2025

In episode #297, Ben Murray tackles a common SaaS metrics question: How should reactivations be treated when calculating gross and net revenue retention (GRR & NRR)? Key takeaways: Reactivated customers (e.g., those who churned quickly but later update payment info) should not be included in new revenue — doing so skews CAC and CAC payback metrics. Gross Revenue Retention (GRR) only accounts f...

This Public Company Restated Its Headline ARR Number 10.07.2025

Have you ever seen a public company restate its ARR ? In episode #296, Ben Murray dives into a real-world example from the London Stock Exchange—Celebrus Technologies—and unpacks why and how they updated their Annual Recurring Revenue (ARR) definition. Key Highlights: Financial restatements ≠ just GAAP: ARR, a non-GAAP metric, is increasingly being scrutinized as pricing and revenue models evolve....

Benchmarking Your CAC Payback: How Do You Compare to Top SaaS Performers? 07.07.2025

In episode #295 of SaaS Metrics School , Ben Murray breaks down how to benchmark your CAC Payback Period accurately—and why generic social media posts can lead you astray. Too many founders rely on simplified benchmark numbers, such as “12 months or less is good,” without understanding the nuances behind the data. Ben explains why ACV segmentation is critical, how top-quartile companies perform ac...

Adapting CAC Payback Period for Usage-Based SaaS Models 05.07.2025

In episode #294 of SaaS Metrics School , Ben Murray dives into one of the most important metrics for SaaS operators and investors: CAC Payback Period —with a focus on adapting it for usage-based pricing models . Whether you’re B2B, B2C, or AI-focused, CAC Payback is a must-have metric when you're investing heavily in go-to-market strategies. But how do you accurately calculate it when your busines...

CARR Is the New ARR? A SaaS Operator's Guide to This Hot Metric 02.07.2025

In episode #293, Ben dives into Contracted Annual Recurring Revenue (CARR) —a once obscure metric that's now becoming a standard in financial dashboards and valuation discussions . Ben explains how CARR differs from ARR, breaks down the formula, and shares how it’s being used in real-world enterprise SaaS settings. He also shares why defining ARR is more complicated than it seems—especially with v...

Should You Target 80% Gross Profit in SaaS? Let’s Break It Down 27.06.2025

Gross profit is a core metric in SaaS—and 80% is the benchmark often thrown around. But is that still realistic in today’s landscape? In episode #292 of SaaS Metric School , Ben Murray walks through real benchmarking data from Ray Rike’s benchmarks at Benchmarkit.ai and explains how gross profit should evolve as your business scales. He also dives into how to set up your SaaS P&L correctly and...

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