Debra Rienstra

Refugia Podcast: A Podcast About Renewal

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Host Debra Rienstra interviews a different guest each week, exploring the idea of refugia from a variety of perspectives, from biology to worship to politics. Refugia are places of shelter where life endures in times of crisis. We’re exploring what it means for people of faith to be people of refugia. refugianewsletter.substack.com

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Debra Rienstra

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Religion

Latest episode

Nov 9, 2025

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Episodes

Refugia Podcast Episode 40 09.11.2025

Our final episode of Season 4! This week, we travel to Hawaii with a whole troop of good people to visit some remarkable refugia spaces near Kaneohe Bay on Oahu. This episode, produced by Colin Hoogerwerf and Jim Stump, first aired on the Language of God podcast in April of 2025. To learn more about the Language of God podcast, visit their website here . Language of God is produced by Biologos , a...

Refugia Podcast Episode 39 02.11.2025

Christina Bagaglio Slentz is Associate Director for Creation Care for the Catholic Diocese of San Diego . Learn about how her diocese prioritizes climate action here . In this episode, we often refer to Pope Francis’ encyclical Laudato si’ and the ways that faith communities are living out its stated goals . We also discuss the theme “seeds of peace and hope,” the official theme for the 2025 ecume...

Refugia Podcast Episode 38 26.10.2025

As a lay leader of Traverse City Presbyterian Church , Linda Racine and a team of enthusiastic congregants prompted her church to start on a journey toward effective climate action. You can read about their commitment to creation care and learn about their 3 bright ideas for reducing carbon emissions in this congregation-led video . Traverse City Presbyterian took advantage of tools like the Inter...

Refugia Podcast Episode 37 19.10.2025

Elaine Heath is the abbess of Spring Forest , a new monastic community in Hillsborough, North Carolina. Spring Forest centers around communal prayer and meals, a vibrant farm, refugee support, and other ministries you can read about here . You can learn more about Elaine’s work as an author and speaker on her website , or in articles like this one from the Center for Action and Contemplation. Many...

Refugia Podcast Episode 36 12.10.2025

Father Pete Nunally is the founder of Water and Wilderness Church , a Washington DC-based outdoor church and watershed community. You can read more about the model of Water and Wilderness Church here . Father Pete is a passionate and well-spoken advocate on his social media pages and other forums, as in this interview with Creation Justice Ministries . Many thanks to Father Pete and the lovely gro...

Refugia Podcast Episode 35 05.10.2025

Doug Kaufman directs the Anabaptist Climate Collaborative , an organization that leads climate justice initiatives from an Anabaptist faith perspective. Doug and his team support Mennonite and other Anabaptist churches, helping to build networks, train leaders, and empower climate-related initiatives. Doug describes environmental work as a form of peacemaking, a way of countering the slow violence...

Refugia Podcast Episode 34 28.09.2025

Dave Celesky founded called Redeem MI Land , a nonprofit organization inspiring communities of faith in Michigan to invest personally in land restoration projects. Dave describes how his home church, Unity Reformed in Norton Shores, Michigan, has supported the very first Redeem MI Land project, creating a prototype for other communities to follow. Dave’s church is also joining a cohort of A Rocha...

Refugia Podcast Episode 33 21.09.2025

In this episode, Rev. Dr. Heber Brown, founder of the Black Church Food Security Network, describes how experimenting with one small church garden led to connections with other churches and then with farmers and eventually to a transformed ecosystem—in this case, a food shed. This inspiring refugia story weaves through health justice, food security, and climate resilience. Even more, this story ce...

Refugia Podcast Episode 32 14.09.2025

Welcome to the first episode of Season 4! I’m so glad to share with you this delightful episode about a group of terrific Lutheran folks who exemplify joyful lay leadership and getting a whole congregation on board on behalf of climate action. Many thanks to Judy Hinck and to the lively group of Mount Olive members who spent an afternoon with me and Ron sharing their climate justice journey (so fa...

Refugia Podcast Season 4 Coming Soon! 07.09.2025

Join us for another season of the Refugia Podcast, with eight new episodes (plus a bonus!) releasing weekly starting September 14. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit refugianewsletter.substack.com

#31 Artful Wildness: Biologist Dave Koetje Reflects on Season 3 20.11.2022

Dave Koetje returns as co-host to reflect on what we’ve learned about refugia church from our guests this season. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/refugia/message This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit refugianewsletter.substack.com

#30 Fortress Press Roundtable: Sharon Delgado and Talitha Amadea Aho on Sentinel Experiences, the Clash of Kingdoms, and Caring Well for Young People in Crisis Times 13.11.2022

Fellow Fortress Press authors Sharon Delgado and Talitha Amadea Aho discuss writing books during a pandemic, young people's spiritual hungers, and the resources the church can offer during a climate crisis.  --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/refugia/message This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus e...

#29 Climate Hospitality: Karyn Bigelow and Avery Davis Lamb on Creation Justice Ministries and Resilient Church Communities 06.11.2022

The executive directors of Creation Justice Ministries explain how faith-based climate organizations can bring people together, inspiring churches and individuals to build social cohesion and work toward a livable and just future. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/refugia/message This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers o...

#28 Becoming The Refuge: Rev. Gerry Koning on Sensory Sanctuaries, Poo-Sniffing Dogs, and the Transition to a New Kind of Church 30.10.2022

Rev. Gerry Koning describes the process of moving from an ordinary, traditional congregation to a refugia church focused on "all abilities, all creation, all nations." --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/refugia/message This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit refugianewsletter.substac...

#27 God is Still Speaking: Rev. Jim Antal on Communal Vocation, Golden Rule 2.0, and Our Urgent Moral Challenge 16.10.2022

Rev. Jim Antal recounts his long experience in climate activism and shares his conviction that Christians, and people of all faiths, are called to a communal vocation at this crucial moment in history. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/refugia/message This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episode...

#26 At School in Community: Ruth Padilla DeBorst on Intentional Christian Community, Resisting the Allure of Empire, and Planetary Gardening 09.10.2022

Theologian Ruth Padilla DeBorst describes life in Casa Adobe, an intentional Christian community in Costa Rica, and discusses what faithful living can look like as we seek to resist complicity in the abuses of empire. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/refugia/message This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access...

#25 Houses of the Future: Rabbi Dean Shapiro on Biblical Stories, Renewed Ritual, and Facing Climate Change as Religious Communities 02.10.2022

Rabbi Shapiro, founder of an interfaith clergy training program called The Joseph Project, discusses how religious ritual and story bind us together and help us strengthen community in times of crisis.  --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/refugia/message This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episod...

#24 The Arc of Movement History: May Boeve on Bridging Refugia through Global Connection, Leveraging Prophetic Speech, and Looking into the Abyss with Faith 25.09.2022

350.org co-founder and Executive Director May Boeve describes the joy and challenge of connecting climate activists across the globe, scaling up climate solutions, and drawing on faith to drive courage and prophetic speech. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/refugia/message This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get a...

#23 Purple Zone Refugia: Leah Schade on Climate Crisis Preaching, the Prophetic Church, and the Trickster Christ 18.09.2022

To open Season 3, homiletics professor Rev. Dr. Leah D. Schade considers the prophetic role of churches amid the climate crisis, as well as the challenge of working for long-term transformation through preaching and structured dialogue. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/refugia/message This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscri...

Refugia Podcast Season 3 Trailer 04.09.2022

We're back! Join us for Season 3 of the Refugia Podcast starting Sept. 18. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/refugia/message This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit refugianewsletter.substack.com

#22 Living Together in a World of Wounds: Dave Koetje and Summing Up Season 2 28.11.2020

Biologist Dave Koetje returns to reflect with host Debra Rienstra on major themes from Season 2. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/refugia/message This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit refugianewsletter.substack.com

#21 Infrastructures of Holiness: Fred Bahnson on Arks, Intercessory Forests, and Gregarious Hermits 14.11.2020

Writer Fred Bahnson explores the distinction between arks and refugia. He describes his visit to the church forests of Ethiopia and his involvement in the community garden movement, and he ponders the role of metanoia and mystical connection in a refugia faith.  --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/refugia/message This is a public episode. If you would like to discu...

#20: Imaginative and Messy: Kathryn Mae Post on Religion Journalism and Reconstructing Faith 07.11.2020

Kathryn Mae Post describes her own process of reckoning with a faith crisis, engaging in anti-racism work, and starting out in religion journalism at a time of major cultural and religious transition. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/refugia/message This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes...

#19 Love Thy Downstream Neighbor: Tim Van Deelen on Sorrow, Anger, and Conservation Biology. 31.10.2020

Wildlife biologist Tim Van Deelen reflects on the spiritual challenges of wildlife conservation and considers the call to value the commons and engage in strategic activism.  --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/refugia/message This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit refugianewsletter....

#18 Where Beauty is Happening: Katerina Parsons on International Development, Ripple Effects, and Hunger for Deep Roots 24.10.2020

Katerina Parsons reflects on refugia in international development settings, on engaging in advocacy and activism as a young adult, and on feeling restless and place-starved at once. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/refugia/message This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit refugianews...

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