Debra Rienstra
Refugia Podcast: A Podcast About Renewal
Host Debra Rienstra interviews a different guest each week, exploring the idea of refugia from a variety of perspectives, from biology to worship to politics. Refugia are places of shelter where life endures in times of crisis. We’re exploring what it means for people of faith to be people of refugia. refugianewsletter.substack.com
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Debra Rienstra
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Nov 9, 2025
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Episodes
#17 Dreaming of Eloheh: Randy Woodley on Following the Harmony Way 17.10.2020 38:59
Randy Woodley brings Christian and indigenous worldviews into instructive conversation, describing his quest to establish Eloheh Farm, a place where people can reconnect with land and recover indigenous farming practices. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/refugia/message This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get acc...
#16 Kites and Kingfishers: Ruth Harvey on Iona Community and Emerging Patterns 10.10.2020 39:33
Ruth Harvey describes how times of crisis spur people toward new ways of imagining and organizing community. She reflects on how the Iona Community models refugia as places we move in and out of, located and dispersed. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/refugia/message This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access...
#15 Momentum into the Next Thing: Bill McKibben on Fighting Overwhelming Odds and Praying Through Mental Static 03.10.2020 39:54
Bill McKibben reviews some recent good news in the climate fight and reflects on an ethic of human solidarity, the demands of activism, and holding on to Christian faith. Also: the book of Job, refugia, and the delights of vernal pools. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/refugia/message This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscri...
#14 Sacramental Cats and Hungry Deer: Dave Koetje on Refugia Amid COVID 26.09.2020 39:51
Biologist Dave Koetje talks with host Debra Rienstra about how the COVID-19 pandemic has altered his ideas about refugia. Also: Zoom worship, garden pests, and stepping-stone refugia. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/refugia/message This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit refugiane...
#13 Important Dying: Dave Koetje and Summing Up the Refugia Series 06.12.2019 38:32
Biologist Dave Koetje returns to reflect with host Debra Rienstra on everything we’ve learned over the course of the last twelve episodes. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/refugia/message This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit refugianewsletter.substack.com
#12 Baselines and Soul Work: Hillary Scholten on Immigration Reform and the Urgency of Creating Good Policy 29.11.2019 26:51
Hillary Scholten, an attorney who worked for the DOJ under President Obama and then provided legal representation for migrant workers in Michigan, considers how government policy, people of faith, and the larger community can intersect to create healing refugia spaces. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/refugia/message This is a public episode. If you would like t...
#11 Jazz on the Dunes: David Jellema and the Colony at Lost Valley 22.11.2019 41:07
In this episode, we travel out to the shore of Lake Michigan and back in time. Jazz musician David Jellema recounts the history of the "artist intelligentsia retreat" founded by his father and uncle. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/refugia/message This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes,...
#10 Do the Next Right Thing: Kate Kooyman on Refuge, Refugees, and Stewarding Citizenship 15.11.2019 41:06
A pastor and education team leader at the Christian Reformed Church’s Office of Social Justice, Kate Kooyman sorts out some confusing matters of immigration policy and explores how people of faith help immigrants and refugees go beyond refuge to community integration. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/refugia/message This is a public episode. If you would like to...
#9 Keep All the Pieces: Tim Van Deelen on Wildlife Conservation and the Ghost of Aldo Leopold 08.11.2019 50:11
Tim Van Deelen, professor of wildlife ecology at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, explains how the term refugia is used in the context of wildlife conservation, along the way telling stories about grizzlies, black-footed ferrets, wolves, and Aldo Leopold. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/refugia/message This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss...
#8 Dying and Rising: Jeff Chu on Composting, Evolving Faith, and Pop-Up Refugia 01.11.2019 37:53
Journalist and recent seminary graduate Jeff Chu ponders the intersection of theology and farming. He also describes the Evolving Faith Conference and other places of healing and fresh imagination for people who are, for whatever reason, feeling on the margins of the church. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/refugia/message This is a public episode. If you would...
#7 Through Pain to Freedom: John Witvliet on Prayer, Lament, and Refugia in Worship 25.10.2019 31:27
John Witvliet, Director of the Calvin Institute of Christian Worship, explores how Christians can create refugia spaces in worship through thoughtful public prayer and courageous practices of lament. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/refugia/message This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes,...
#6 Kitchen Table Refugia: Christina Edmondson on Higher Education, Social Media, and Discipleship for Discernment 18.10.2019 40:33
Dean for Intercultural Student Development at Calvin University and co-host of the Truth’s Table podcast, Christina Edmondson reflects on the potential for refugia on college campuses and on the virtues and difficulties of virtual refugia. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/refugia/message This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subs...
#5 New Generation Rising: Kyle Meyaard-Schaap on Young Evangelicals and the Climate Crisis 11.10.2019 37:51
Kyle Meyaard-Schaap, National Organizer and Spokesperson for Young Evangelicals for Climate Action, takes stock of how the church is doing in addressing climate change and describes how young Christians are leading the way, finding refugia through intentional action. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/refugia/message This is a public episode. If you would like to...
#4 Sacred Vessels: Jo-Ann Van Reeuwyk on the Arts, the Holy Spirit, and Sanctuary Spaces 04.10.2019 36:27
Studio artist and art educator Jo-Ann Van Reeuwyk reflects on art and risk-taking, sacred spaces pedagogy, vessels, and pokey things. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/refugia/message This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit refugianewsletter.substack.com
#3 Seedbed to Be a Blessing: Steve Bouma-Prediger on Refugia in Scripture 27.09.2019 42:35
Steve Bouma-Prediger, professor of religion at Hope College and “ecotheologian,” reflects on examples of refugia in the Bible and the virtues necessary to fulfill our God-given, human responsibility to the earth. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/refugia/message This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bo...
#2 The Great Laughter: Jamie Skillen on Humility and Hope 20.09.2019 34:40
Jamie Skillen, professor of environmental studies at Calvin University, overviews the sometimes tense relationship between Christianity and environmentalism and urges us to aspire toward an “eschatological stewardship.” --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/refugia/message This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get acces...
#1 Little Pockets: Dave Koetje and Defining Our Terms 06.09.2019 22:37
Dave Koetje, professor of biology at Calvin University, helps lay the groundwork with some definitions. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/refugia/message This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit refugianewsletter.substack.com
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