Jordan Hale, LMFT
Psyche Magic
Jordan Hale is a Therapist (LMFT) who interviews artists and healing arts practitioners about working with the subconscious to enhance creativity and self-awareness. Each episode, she explores themes related Jungian dreamwork, tarot, nature-based spirituality, and many other wisdom traditions in a casual, playful context. If you're interested in learning about shadow work healing practices and accessing deeper levels of your creativity more easily and consistently, you've come to the right place! psychemagic.substack.com
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Jordan Hale, LMFT
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Dec 1, 2025
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Episodes
Creating While Mothering with Christina Cone (Musical Artist, Creative Agency Founder/Owner) 01.12.2025 1:13:23
On this episode, I had the privilege of sitting down with my dear friend Christina Cone in her home here in East Nashville. I knew she would be the perfect person to talk with about how to maintain one’s creative and artistic identity while simultaneously diving headfirst into motherhood. Christina fronts the band Frances Cone along with her husband, Andy. She also founded Phases, a boutique creat...
Sustaining Meaning in The Art Life with Mary Lattimore (Harpist) 13.08.2025 53:07
For our 50th episode, we have an extra special guest who I was so honored to speak with: musical artist/harpist Mary Lattimore! Mary’s ethereal instrumental music, particularly her 2020 album Silver Ladders , was a cornerstone of my self-care in pregnancy, and I’ve been a massive fan ever since. Mary joined me virtually from her home in Los Angeles to discuss her favorite ways to build and nurture...
Announcement: Jungian Active Imagination Workshop Offering! 13.06.2025 2:24
Join us for this virtual workshop Monday 7/14 at 7pm CST via Zoom (the recording will be available after the fact as well!) where we will: 🌱 Explore how Jung discovered and used active imagination to bring unconscious thoughts into awareness for personal growth and creativity ✍️ Utilize different automatic writing techniques to generate ideas and connect with your existing creative skills 🔮 Enga...
Episode 48: What is Ego Death? On Healing via Psychedelic Medicine with AJ Murillo (Writer and Philosopher) 11.06.2025 1:06:30
On this episode, we welcome writer, philosopher, and “introspective detective” AJ Murillo to the show! We discuss her wisdom and perspective gained on psychedelic journeys and explore the subject of her most recent book : the concept of ego death as an aspect of emotional and spiritual healing. We also share some amazing stories about psilocybin guiding us deeper into our intuition, helping both o...
More Wind: A Tribute to David Lynch with Michael McMillian 05.03.2025 1:05:29
On this very special episode, my dear friend Michael McMillian (actor, writer, creator and co-host of The Bigfoot Collector’s Club Podcast) joins me to discuss one of our favorite creators of all time: the late, great David Lynch. We were blessed with a poignant Lynchian message via our tarot pull, discussed Lynch’s appearances in both of our dreams, and our enduring love and reverence for his wor...
Understanding the Natal Chart with Becca Neighbor (Astrologer and Singer/Songwriter) 22.01.2025 55:31
On our latest episode, I interview Becca Neighbor: Astrologer and Singer-Songwriter about making sense of the Natal Chart (aka Birth Chart) in Astrology! Her intuitive method of reading the birth chart highlights key placements illustrating the blessings and challenges inherent in each chart, with the goal of enhancing self-awareness and self-compassion. We also discuss Becca’s journey in navigati...
Tarot for Transformation with Sam Burton (Singer/Songwriter and Tarot Reader) 18.12.2024 51:12
On this long-anticipated episode, I got to sit down with singer/songwriter Sam Burton to talk about the role that practices like Tarot and Jungian dream work have played in his personal growth and resulting creative endeavors/artistic career. We also discussed the evolution of his method of reading Tarot for others, and the delicate ethical considerations of this vulnerable but powerful work. Sam’...
Channeling Sacred Rage with BELLSAINT (Singer/Songwriter) 16.10.2024 1:01:00
On this very special episode, I interview my dear friend and incredibly talented singer/songwriter Caroline Brooks aka BELLSAINT about her healing processes that helped her birth brave and powerful newest album: i used to be funny. We touch on themes of narcissistic abuse (both interpersonally and systemically) as well as religious trauma, and the healing and lifesaving power of art and creativity...
Nurturing the Creative Spirit with Dr. Sarah Bollinger (Psychotherapist and Potter) 11.09.2024 1:03:06
On this very special episode, I interview my dear friend: Dr. Sarah Bollinger! Sarah is a fellow Psychotherapist in private practice as well as an incredibly skilled potter, who has grown her once humble side-hustle, Slow Life Pottery, into a thriving second business. We discuss her commitment to nurturing her creative spirit across all aspects of her life and the ways she has maintained this insp...
Jungian Astrology with Judy Balan (Novelist, Writer, and Consulting Psychological Astrologer) 07.08.2024 1:11:23
On today’s episode, I interview Judy Balan: Novelist, Writer, and Consulting Psychological Astrologer, about the convergence of two of my special interests: Jungian Psychology and Astrology! We discuss the power of working with astrological concepts archetypally vs. predictively in the context of Judy’s fabulous book: Why Am I Like This? A Journey into Psychological Astrology. We also unpack a dre...
Intersectionality and Inner Teen Healing with Elizabeth Su (Author and Creator of The Adventure Tarot) 10.07.2024 1:02:57
On this episode, I interview the fun and fabulous Elizabeth Su about her amazing deck The Adventure Tarot and her decision to center Asian-American women in this project, working to actively dismantle the lack of representation in spiritual spaces that have so often centered the white experience. We discuss undoing patterns of codependency, encountering shadow figures in dreams, navigating neurodi...
Weaving Ritual into Everyday Life with Raven Robbins (Spiritual Consultant, Tarot Reader, & Metaphysical Educator) 12.06.2024 1:01:14
On this episode, Raven Robbins and I unpack the archetype of the Mother through the lens of both personal and collective experiences. We also discuss Jungian archetypes in a broader context and their significance on the esoteric path. We explore ritualized healing practices around creativity and reparenting the inner child, which can be incredibly potent at any life stage, and Raven describes her...
Archetypal Artistry with Emily Weiner (Painter and Ceramicist) 08.05.2024 1:08:11
On today’s new episode I got to interview Emily Weiner: visual Artist and fellow East Nashvillian, at her fabulous home studio! We discussed the distinctly Jungian and philosophical influence on her work, her creative process and career trajectory, along with her methods of incorporating both the personal and collective unconscious into her process — letting the layers of meaning unfold over time....
Jungian Dreamwork with Melissa Grace (Jungian Life Coach) 19.04.2024 58:41
On this episode, I interview Jungian life coach, dream worker, intuitive reader, and co-creator of the Dreaming Oracle: Melissa Grace! This is a deep-dive for my Jungian enthusiasts out there, as Melissa goes in-depth about her time-honored dream work techniques and the transformative power of the dream circle groups she runs regularly. We also discuss using oracle cards as a tool for building a r...
Expressive Arts Therapy and The Power of Play with Sarah Rodgers, LMFT 06.03.2024 1:12:30
On this exciting episode, I interview Sarah Rodgers: Licensed Marital and Family Therapist, Registered Drama Therapist, and an AAMFT Approved Supervisor. We discuss her emphasis on experiential therapy modalities that involve a reclamation of creative expression as an essential form of emotional healing. We also touch on Somatic Experiencing and attuning to the wisdom of the body, as well as some...
Dancing Through a Panic Attack with Angie McMahon (Australian Singer-Songwriter) 10.01.2024 1:15:09
We are kicking off 2024 with an extra special episode welcoming the always-enchanting Angie McMahon to the show! Angie has just released her second full-length album Light, Dark, Light Again , and joins me to discuss the creative process and healing practices that birthed this spellbinding and transcendent creation. Her emphasis on the somatic and the subconscious truly embodies so much of the int...
Hypnosis and Non-Attachment with Ben Glover (Hypnotherapist and Musician) 06.12.2023 1:09:52
On this episode, Ben Glover educates me about the world of Hypnotherapy, which is all about connecting to the subconscious to facilitate change on a deeper level. When working with his clients to help with things like smoking cessation, anxiety, and addressing creative blocks, Ben often engages the language of symbol as a means of communicating with the subconscious mind. We discuss lucidity and r...
Hypnagogic Dreams and the Creative Lifestyle with Allison Filice (Illustrator and Designer) 08.11.2023 1:13:24
On this episode, I interview freelance illustrator, designer, podcaster, and fellow Jungian enthusiast Allison Filice about her experiences with hypnagogic (or, "in-between") dream states, and how her subconscious mind directly inspires her art on a daily basis. Allison and I share a mutual enthusiasm for the intersection of spirituality, the healing arts, and creativity which is reflect...
Grief Rituals and Visitation Dreams with Elena Box (Shamanic Death Doula and Comédienne) 04.10.2023 1:16:18
Just in time for spooky season, on this episode I interview the fabulous Elena Box, Shamanic Death Doula and Comédienne, about learning to form a relationship to death and dying as an integral part of the life cycle. We discuss strategies and practices for managing and working with grief in its many forms and phases, as well as a powerful visitation dream from Elena’s dad after his passing. Our di...
Body Neutrality with Sarah Jane Chapman (Yoga Therapist, Tarot Reader/Creator) 06.09.2023 1:02:37
Welcome to Season 3 of Psyche Magic! On this episode, I interview Sarah Jane Chapman about body neutrality and unconditional acceptance, intergenerational trauma, and the intersection of astrology and tarot. We also discuss her amazing tarot deck - Be With Your Body Tarot. And, last but not least, I do an intro about some exciting updates about our newest offerings and changes to the format of our...
Mediumship Development with Michael Mayo (Evidential Psychic Medium) 19.04.2023 1:13:38
On our Season 2 Finale, I interview an extra special guest - Michael Mayo! Michael is an Evidential Psychic Medium, Co-Founder of The Oakbridge Institute - a Center for Mediumistic and Psychical Studies, and author of the new book Spirit Speaks - A Step by Step and Evidence-Based Approach to Genuine Spirit Communication. Michael and I discuss an early dream he had foreshadowing his work as a Medi...
Sex Dreams with Myisha Battle 05.04.2023 1:09:13
On this much-anticipated episode, I interview Myisha Battle, Clinical Sexologist and Sex and Dating Coach, about the fascinating world of sex dreams! We experiment with treating sex and the sexualized figures that may appear in our dreams symbolically, and tie this in with her work in sex-positivity and education. We also discuss her excellent new book - This is Supposed to Be Fun: How to Find Joy...
Spirit Guide Dreams with Alyse Dusseault 22.03.2023 57:53
On this uplifting episode, I interview Alyse Dusseault (@intuitively_alyse) - Grief Coach, Reiki Practitioner, and Intuitive, about her firsthand knowledge of deep grief as it informs her skilled and compassionate work. This involves empowering those who are grieving to cultivate creative and spiritual means of continuing their relationship with their loved ones, rather than adhering to the persis...
Precognitive Dreams with Lu (Housecraft Productions) 08.03.2023 1:06:44
On this episode I get witchy and chaotic with Lu, Founder and Executive Director of Housecraft Productions (@housecraftofficial). We discuss her craft, passed down through her matrilineal line, and their shared gift of precognitive dreams. She shares a powerful example of one such dream regarding a major turning point in her life, and this sense of contemplation and preparation that can come withi...
Iconic Dream Sequences: The Sopranos 22.02.2023 56:24
On this very special compilation episode, my guests and I discuss the groundbreaking use of dream sequences throughout one of our all-time favorite TV series: The Sopranos! My friends Eduardo Domenech (attorney and my original Sopranos shaman who introduced me to the show) and Michael McMillian (actor, writer, and co-host of the Bigfoot Collector’s Club podcast) put our heads together about the la...
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