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Patterns Podcast
Welcome to the Patterns Podcast. Each episode we sit down with the leaders and builders defining how modern digital products come to life. From systems and tools to culture and decision making, we dig into what’s driving real impact today and shaping the future of how teams build.
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May 13, 2026
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Episodes
93. Nathan Curtis, Co-founder of EightShapes: Balancing reuse and customization in UI Design 13.12.2023 38:23
Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Chris Strahl sits with Nathan Curtis as he explores the delicate balance between reusing existing components and creating customized solutions in UI design. They unpack the complexities of design systems, touching on everything from color selection to ensuring functional and aesthetic harmony, providing insights on principled design choices in a world where...
92. Lisa Apers Independent Designer and Researcher: Tailoring UIs with brainwaves for personalized user experiences 30.11.2023 27:03
Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Join Chris Strahl as he sits with Lisa Apers, a visionary in UI design, as she presents her innovative research on brainwave-responsive user interfaces. Explore how EEG sensors integrated into UIs can revolutionize our digital experiences, creating interfaces that dynamically adapt to individual cognitive states and daily activities. View the transcript of...
91. Designing diversity: Crafting tiered systems for a global market with Tim Banker at Slalom Consulting 16.11.2023 31:21
Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Join Chris Strahl and Tim Banker on an exciting dive into the world of innovative design systems. They explore the creation of tailored solutions for a diverse range of global markets, showcasing how a 'system of systems' approach can meet various needs, from marketing to transactional experiences. Get ready to transcend the one-size-fits-all mode...
90. The innovation triad: Needs, coverage and adoption with Alex Wilson and Jon Reidy at T. Rowe Price 09.11.2023 33:05
Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Join Chris Strahl as he sits with Alex Wilson and Jon Reidy as they discuss their approach to evolving with community demands at T. Rowe Price. Dive into the dynamic process of identifying what drives your customers, crafting solutions that resonate, and ensuring widespread adoption of these innovations. View the transcript of this episode here . Register...
89. Metrics matter: Harnessing usage data for adoption, coverage, efficiency, and quality with Maya Hampton at REI 01.11.2023 29:53
Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Join Chris Strahl and Maya Hampton as they unpack the power of usage data and its pivotal role in driving adoption, efficiency, and quality. Dive deep, discover the real value of design systems, and see how every component counts! View the transcript of this episode here . Register here for our upcoming webinar, ‘Design System Roadmap & Strategy for the...
88. Beyond isolation: Harmonizing products in a design ecosystem with JJ Rogers at Watermark 26.10.2023 27:35
Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Join Chris Strahl and JJ Rogers, as they explore the challenges and triumphs of harmonizing diverse products at Watermark, highlighting how a harmonized ecosystem elevates user experience and ensures consistent design across all platforms. View the transcript of this episode here . Check out our upcoming events here . Guest JJ Rogers serves as Director of P...
87. Designing success: Crafting principles for passkey adoption with Kevin Goldman and Sierre Wolfkostin at FIDO Alliance 18.10.2023 34:50
Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Join Chris Strahl, Kevin Goldman, and Sierre Wolfkostin as they sit down to explore the Fido Alliance's mission of revolutionizing online authentication by eliminating traditional passwords and replacing them with secure and user-friendly passkeys. Discover how these principles, tested and proven, are set to transform user experiences and incentivize t...
86. From consistency to contribution: How design systems grow trees with Jay Smith at REI 04.10.2023 34:38
Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Chris Strahl sits with Jay Smith as they unravel the secrets of REI's design system consistency. Uncover how their groundbreaking approach to design, colors, and tokens is reshaping standards. With an eco-friendly twist: for every contribution to the system, trees are planted. As the system grows, so does a forest. View the transcript of this episode h...
85. Driving speed and consistency: The power of design systems in startups with Jamie Totten at Klue 27.09.2023 29:36
Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Chris Strahl sits with Jamie Totten from Klue and they unpack the unique challenges and benefits of implementing a design system in a fast-paced startup. Drawing inspiration from Spotify's "guild format", they emphasize the importance of voluntary commitment, maintaining positivity and on making the most with limited resources. View the trans...
84. Digital typography: Suggesting, not dictating with Juli Sombat at Spotify and Jason Pamental at Chewy 21.09.2023 39:31
Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Chris Strahl sits with Juli Sombat from Spotify and Jason Pamental from Chewy as they unravel the evolution of digital typography, emphasizing the shift from dictation to suggestion. They explore the dynamic between designers and users and the transformative power of user customization. View the transcript of this episode here . Register here for our upcomi...
83. Breaking silos and enhancing teamwork in design systems with Tony Pantello and Chris Henke at Accutech 13.09.2023 34:54
Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Chris Strahl sits with Tony Pantello and Chris Henke who tackle the age-old conflict between design and development. They discuss harnessing the power of design systems to streamline collaboration, conquer inefficiency, and unlock the true potential of their teams. View the transcript of this episode here . Register here for our upcoming webinar, ‘What Real...
82. Design system revamp: Unpacking Monster's UX odyssey with Billea Breen 06.09.2023 31:23
Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Chris Strahl and Billea Breen explore the essential interaction between design and development to craft a flawless user experience, offering tactics to maintain consistency and enhance workflows. View the transcript of this episode here . Register here for our upcoming webinar, ‘What Really Matters in Design Systems’ on October 25th. Guest Meet Billea, the...
81. Embracing change with Mark Reynolds, Design System Consultant: How design and engineering roles are evolving in design systems 30.08.2023 37:28
Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Chris Strahl and Mark Reynolyds navigate the ever-changing world of design systems, exploring the idea that design and engineering roles will become more aligned in the near future. View the transcript of this episode here . Register here for our upcoming webinar, ‘Theming in Complex Ecosystems’ with Donnie D’Amato on August 30th. Guest Mark Reynolds is a...
80. Bridging Code & Creativity with Kevin Broich at Cisco 22.08.2023 38:35
Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Chris Strahl talks with Kevin Broich about his transition from backend developer to designer at Cisco. Kevin shares insights on creating a crucial CSS-based UI kit for Cisco's major rebranding phase and more. View the transcript of this episode here . Register here for our upcoming webinar, ‘Theming in Complex Ecosystems’ with Donnie D’Amato on August...
79. Inside Pinterest's Gestalt System with Product Designers, Kate Halvorsen and Cintia Romero: A community-centric approach 15.08.2023 42:44
Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Chris Strahl chats with Kate and Cinita on Pinterest's design system, Gestalt. Learn how their team built a system prioritizing documentation, inclusivity and accessibility. A space designed to ensure global and remote activity, encouraging users to easily contribute and communicate effectively. View the transcript of this episode here . Register here...
78. Bridging the design-code gap at Meta, a multidisciplinary approach with Sriram Ramasubramanian 08.08.2023 28:13
Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Join Chris Strahl as he sits down with Sriram Ramasubramanian from Meta to discuss the intricacies of designing at scale. Dive deep into the world of design systems, Figma plugins, design tokens, and the challenges of interoperability across multiple platforms. View the transcript of this episode here . Register here for our upcoming webinar, ‘Theming in Co...
77. Robin Cannon, Executive Director and Head of Design System at J.P. Morgan: Creating an environment that encourages and builds trust with design systems 31.07.2023 44:18
Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Chris and Robin discuss creating an environment and ecosystem where people are excited to use design systems; and the importance these systems have when encouraging trust and accountability to assist teams with their work. View the transcript of this episode here . Register here for our upcoming webinar, ‘Theming in Complex Ecosystems’ with Donnie D’Amato o...
76. Christophe Coutzoukis Design System Lead: Building Thriving Design System Communities 24.07.2023 35:34
Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Christophe and Chris discuss the art of building thriving design system communities. They share their profound insights and experiences, offering valuable perspectives on fostering vibrant and inclusive communities that flourish with creativity and collaboration. View the transcript of this episode here . Register here for our upcoming webinar, ‘Introducing...
75. Adam Sedwick Senior Product Manager: Harnessing the power of design systems to unify your team 12.07.2023 36:29
Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Adam and Chris discuss the power of design systems and their ability to break down barriers between designers and developers. View the transcript of this episode here . Register here for our upcoming webinar, ‘Introducing Knapsack V4: A Powerful Update for a Future-Ready Experience,’ July 26th at 1 pm (ET) and 10 am (PT). Guest Adam Sedwick is a senior prod...
74. Richard Banfield, Advisor & Recovering CEO: What does iterative work look like in design systems? 22.06.2023 41:15
Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Richard and Chris discuss iterative work and how integral thinking by doing is when progressing work forward. View the transcript of this episode here . Register here for our upcoming webinar, ‘AI in Design Systems’ on June 28th, 1 pm (ET) and 10 am (PT). Guest Professionally, I express myself through creating new products and businesses, both for myself a...
73. Sheryl Cababa Chief Strategy Officer at Substantial: Using system thinking to make informed decisions 15.06.2023 35:57
Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Sheryl and Chris discuss the complexities of the design system space as it involves human behaviours. View the transcript of this episode here . Register here for our upcoming webinar, ‘AI in Design Systems’ on June 28th, 1 pm (ET) and 10 am (PT). Guest Sheryl Cababa is the author of Closing the Loop: Systems Thinking for Designers. She's a design rese...
72. Danielle MacDonald Creative Head, Digital Product Design: Designing to scale 31.05.2023 36:04
Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Danielle and Chris discuss the impact designing at scale will have on ROI. View the transcript of this episode here . Register here for our upcoming webinar, ‘AI in Design Systems’ on June 28th, 1 pm (ET) and 10 am (PT). Guest Danielle MacDonald is a design leader and self-proclaimed design systems geek, with over 15 years of experience in managing digital...
71. Chris Deluca Senior Front-End Developer: People are the heart of design systems 23.05.2023 38:56
Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Chris Deluca and Chris discuss the significance of prioritizing people in the process of developing design systems. They explore a central question that consistently arises: Whose lives are you striving to enrich and simplify? View the transcript of this episode here . Guests Chris DeLuca is a senior front end web developer from New Jersey with thirteen ye...
70. Pinata's Kendall Totten interviews Knapsack CEO Chris Strahl: Design with code and AI 16.05.2023 58:13
Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Kendall and Chris discuss how design systems represent the strategic platform for how a company creates product. View the transcript of this episode here . Register for our upcoming ‘Design Systems Buying Guide’ webinar on May 24th, 2 pm (EST), hosted by Chris Strahl and Dan Mall. Guest Kendall Totten began as a graphic designer & frontend web dev and f...
69. The single source of truth mentality: Meta Part Two 09.05.2023 20:13
Send us feedback or episode suggestions. A round table discussion hosted by Chris and Andrew from Knapsack with the Meta Blueprint team, part two. View the transcript of this episode here . Guests Christopher Clare - Director of Product Design Chris Clare is the Head of Foundation Design for FB App responsible for unifying the app through the Blueprint Design System, driving efficiency for the res...
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