Knapsack
Patterns Podcast
Welcome to the Patterns Podcast. Each episode we sit down with the leaders and builders defining how modern digital products come to life. From systems and tools to culture and decision making, we dig into what’s driving real impact today and shaping the future of how teams build.
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May 13, 2026
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Episodes
DSP 118. Reusability, Collaboration, and Empathy: Catalina Manea on Bridging Design and Development to Build Applications with Design Systems" 17.09.2024 25:34
Send us feedback or episode suggestions. On today's episode of the Design Systems Podcast, we hear from Catalina Manea, Senior Designer at Spelunk, about the crucial intersection of design and development. Catalina shares her journey from graphic design to product and systems design, providing insights into the importance of reusability, cross-functional collaboration, and empathy in building...
DSP 117. Why Kate Moran Thinks Humans Are Essential to the Future of Generative UI and AI. 03.09.2024 42:45
Send us feedback or episode suggestions. What does the future of UX look like? In today's episode, our host, Chris Strahl, sits down with Kate Moran, the VP of Research and Content at Nielsen Norman Group. They explore the promise of hyper-personalized experiences, the challenges of resource limitations, and the innovative potential of AI in accelerating design processes. Kate touches on the...
DSP 116. Designed for success: How Guy Segal Built a Design System that Product Teams Want to Use. 20.08.2024 30:31
Send us feedback or episode suggestions. In this episode of The Design Systems Podcast, Chris Strahl welcomes Guy Segal, the director of digital ecosystem and design systems at Thomson Reuters. Guy shares his experience of building a design system that serves over 150+ brands and the importance of having a point of view when you are working to bring both quality and consistency to a large portfoli...
DSP 115. Design System Sources of Truth: Transparency and Collaboration with Dropbox’s Mark Shuster 06.08.2024 29:46
Send us feedback or episode suggestions. It’s all just opinions, man! In this episode of the Design Systems Podcast, Mark Shuster talks about the shift away from enforcing strict guidelines through design systems towards enabling good design and production practices in a more transparent and collaborative way. Chris and Mark discuss different sources of truth within a design system, flexibility a...
DSP 114. Design Systems and Ways of Working: Nick Hahn on Collaboration, Adoption, and AI 09.07.2024 35:18
Send us feedback or episode suggestions. This week we are joined by Nick Hahn to explore how designers, engineers, product managers, and entire organizations have changed the way they think about and work with design systems. Nick shares insight from his experiences at IBM, InVision, Meta, and Bill.com to highlight the importance of collaboration, governance, education, and cultural adoption. Join...
DSP 113. Config 2024: Highlights and Hot Takes with Jina Anne and Adekunle Oduye 28.06.2024 21:03
Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Recording during Config 2024, this bonus episode of The Design Systems Podcast features long-time friends of the Pod, Jina Anne and Adekunle Oduye. They share their fresh takes on the latest Figma keynote, including the buzz around AI-generated designs and the revamped Figma UI. The conversation explores the future of design systems, deeper code integration...
DSP 112. Creating Effective Design Systems for Small and Mid-Size Companies: Apiture’s Journey 27.06.2024 28:48
Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Today’s episode features Ashley Willard and Sarah Kimball (Skim) from Apiture, a smallish fintech company with big enterprise ambitions for its design system. Host Christ Strahl chats with Ashley and Skim about the challenges and opportunities their small team faces trying to navigate the complexities of building a design system that unifies the look and fe...
DSP 111. How AI is Revolutionizing Design Systems and Customer Experiences with Dave Calleja 12.06.2024 41:25
Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Chris Strahl welcomes Dave Calleja back to the podcast to discuss the changing nature of design systems, integrating AI into the human creative process, and how to use behavior data for real-time design adaptations. Dave shares his views on the importance of design systems to customer experiences and how modern tools help scale personalized experiences that...
DSP 110. The Evolution of ServiceNow's Design System with Meredith Van Lier 28.05.2024 32:43
Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Today on the podcast, we talk to Meredith Van Lier, the director of product management at ServiceNow. Chris and Meredith discuss the unique evolution of ServiceNow's design system and its shift towards a more flexible and user-centric design approach, emphasizing collaboration, automation, and accessibility. Learn about the strategic vision, collaborat...
109. Making Design Systems Inclusive with Accessibility Specialist Daniel Henderson-Ede 14.05.2024 26:23
Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Welcome to another episode of The Design Systems Podcast! In honor of Global Accessibility Awareness Day, we're thrilled to have Daniel Henderson-Ede, an accessibility specialist, here to discuss the need for and challenges of making inclusive design experiences for those with disabilities, and how design systems can help. Daniel shares why and how acc...
108. U.S. Bank’s Beau Ulrey on Building Trust Through Design Systems 30.04.2024 31:33
Send us feedback or episode suggestions. On this episode of the Design Systems Podcast, we're thrilled to have Beau Ulrey, the Design System Manager at U.S. Bank, join host Chris Strahl live at the Kiln space in Portland. Today’s episode deep dives into the intricate world where design meets development. Beau will share his fascinating journey from a design and photography background to becom...
107. The Evolution of IBM's Carbon Design System with Scott Strubberg 16.04.2024 34:52
Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Join host Chris Strahl as he welcomes our guest Scott Strubberg to the Design Systems Podcast. Scott is a product manager and a key figure behind IBM's Carbon Design System. Today’s conversation unravels the complexities and innovations of integrating brand consistency across digital and physical realms. Chris and Scott explore how feedback and communi...
106. Brad Frost on Adaptable Design Systems 02.04.2024 47:19
Send us feedback or episode suggestions. We sit down with Brad Frost, a leading voice in design systems. Together, we explore the critical intersection between adaptable design systems and brand identities, unveiling the secrets to creating components that not only function seamlessly across platforms but also resonate with diverse brand aesthetics. Listen in as we discuss the layers of a successf...
105. Ranjeet Tayi from Informatica: AI-Driven Design 19.03.2024 39:50
Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Informatica's design and AI director, Ranjeet Tayi doing us on the Design Systems Podcast to discuss AI's transformative impact on design systems, elucidating the shift from static products to dynamic, personalized AI-driven experiences. Chris and Ranjeet navigate through the intricacies of AI's influence on crafting hyper-personalized interf...
104. Shawn Cheris from Adobe: Spectrum 2 Design System and AI’s Role in the Future of Design 12.03.2024 46:13
Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Chris and Shawn explore how design tools shape final products, emphasizing the crucial role of managing elements like forms and tables. Shawn shares insights on uniting Adobe departments for greater cohesion and how Spectrum 2 reflects organizational change. They discuss AI integration in design interfaces, drawing parallels with Apple's iPhone design...
103. Nate Baldwin from Intuit: Multi-Brand Theming in Complex Organizations 07.03.2024 34:37
Send us feedback or episode suggestions. In this episode of the Design Systems Podcast, we explore the intricate world of theme management in complex design systems at Intuit. Nate Baldwin, Principal Designer at Intuit, shares a revolutionary framework for design tokens, enhancing governance and accessibility. We learn about Figma's role in color swapping and Intuit's theming engine for...
102. David Müller: Intentional Breakpoints and AI Insights 29.02.2024 29:53
Send us feedback or episode suggestions. In this episode of the Design Systems Podcast, we invite you to join us as we engage in a conversation with David Müller, a product designer and design systems lead at one of the world’s top financial institutions. Together, we dive deep into the intricate landscape of banking systems, exploring the complexities of equipping problem solvers with the necessa...
101. PJ Onori of Pinterest/Disney: Design Systems Shifting the Productivity Paradigm 20.02.2024 38:57
Send us feedback or episode suggestions. PJ Onori, a design systems veteran since 2011 and a driving force behind Pinterest's Gestalt system, talks about the transformative impact of design systems on product development, potentially reshaping the job landscape in design and engineering. In this episode, PJ recounts a pivotal experience at Disney, highlighting the delicate balance between pro...
100. Brian Dorsey on Design and Engineering Synergy at Mastercard 13.02.2024 29:34
Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Join us for a milestone episode of The Design Systems Podcast, featuring Brian Dorsey, a key contributor to Mastercard's groundbreaking design system MADE. Explore how integrating designers into infrastructure teams has revolutionized collaboration. Discover how Mastercard leverages its design system to drive business forward with insights on accessibi...
99. Jackie Lai, Lead UX Designer at OPIS Dow Jones, on Creating Future-Proof Systems 07.02.2024 29:40
Send us feedback or episode suggestions. On this episode of DSP, we welcome guest Jackie Lai, a lead UX designer at OPIS, a Dow Jones company, with a rich background in interactive and product design. Explore Jackie's diverse design journey from web to physical products and the transformation of design tools. Discover the importance of cross-functional collaboration and the perpetual evolutio...
98. Exploring Alexandrian Patterns in Design Systems with Kevin Muldoon at Dow Jones 30.01.2024 28:36
Send us feedback or episode suggestions. In this episode of The Design Systems Podcast, we’re joined by guest Kevin Muldoon, Lead Design Technologist/Design Systems at Dow Jones, to discuss the concepts of alexandrian patterns and their application in design systems. We explore the idea of themes as reusable objects to solve specific design problems, discussing the challenges and potential solutio...
97. Curt Schreiber, CCO at VSA, on Building Global Design Systems for Scale 23.01.2024 36:41
Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Curt Schreiber, Chief Creative Officer at VSA Partners, joins us for a compelling conversation on the multifaceted nature of design systems. We explore how these intricate frameworks must cater to a diverse array of users and stakeholders, highlighting the need for design systems to personify the organization's character. Curt shares his insights on ma...
96. Jina Anne and Adekunle Oduye: Navigating Career Pathways in Design Systems 16.01.2024 44:36
Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Jina Anne and Adekunle Oduye join host Chris Strahl in a candid conversation that explores career pathways within the evolving realm of design systems amidst the latest market conditions. They share valuable insights on how the key to thriving in uncertain times is through understanding the nuanced dance between business language and design practice. Jina,...
95. Matt Weinberg, Sr. Product Designer at Angi: Empathy-First Approach to Evolving Design Systems 02.01.2024 25:17
Send us feedback or episode suggestions. In this episode of the Design Systems Podcast, we discuss the evolution of design systems with special guest Matt Weinberg, Senior Product Designer at Angi. Matt has a passion for empathy-driven design solutions and shares his unconventional career path that led him to tackle the challenge of refining and improving the design systems at Angi. He reveals how...
94. Josh Clark, Founder of Big Medium: Scaling Digital Strategy Within Complex Organizations 19.12.2023 41:50
Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Josh Clark and Chris Strahl dive into an in-depth discussion about navigating the digital landscape amidst economic unpredictability. They discuss the intricacies of building and maintaining design systems in large organizations, addressing the challenges of scaling, and emphasizing the strategic value of digital investments. Josh, an advocate for design sy...
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