Patterns Podcast

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. A round table discussion hosted by Chris and Andrew from Knapsack with the Meta Blueprint team (part one). View the transcript of this episode here . Guests Christopher Clare - Director of Product Design Chris Clare is the Head of Foundation Design for FB App responsible for unifying the app through the Blueprint Design System, driving efficiency for the re...

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Kaelig, Darren, and Chris talk tokens and code: “Using a whole different type of brain.” View the transcript of this episode here . Want to hear more? Register for Knapsack’s upcoming talking tokens webinar here . Guests Kaelig Deloumeau-Prigent, Principal Software Engineer at Netlify Founder of the Design Tokens W3C Community Group, providing open standard...

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Amber, Taylor, and Chris talk tokens; the pros and cons. View the transcript of this episode here . Guests Amber Stickel, Principal Design Technologist at Intuit Front-end designer and developer with a passion for creating modular, reusable, and flexible interfaces and systems. With multidisciplinary knowledge and tools in hand, I’m hoping to improve the we...

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Morgane and Chris discuss the idea that many design systems pitch themselves as a technical asset. However, design systems can extend past this notion to offer business value,  patterns, and ROI. View the transcript of this episode here . Guest Morgane Peng is a Managing Director and Head of Design at Societe Generale Corporate & Investment Banking wher...

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Evan and Chris discuss source of truth and how it is linked most importantly to overall user experience opposed to just design or code. View the transcript of this episode here . Guest Evan Lovely is the co-founder and Head of Product & Engineering at Knapsac k. Evan was previously the CTO at Basalt Inc and a software architect at Phase2. He has a passi...

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Jennie and Chris discuss following the path of least resistance when building design systems. It must feel natural and easier for the people using the system, so much so, it doesn’t make sense to continue with old habits.  View the transcript of this episode here . Guest Jennie Yip is a hybrid design engineer with a heart for elegant user interfaces, simple...

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Avery Oldt and Chris discuss the importance of scaling ideas, systematic thinking, and cross-team integration for product delight and success. View the transcript of this episode here . Guest Avery Oldt is Head of Design & Research at Amazon for Amazon Fashion. His past work includes leading design, product, and engineering teams at MTV, Restoration Har...

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Jack McCloy and Chris discuss the purpose of a design system and its ability to iterate faster, build better, more accessible, consistent products. Not only saving money but achieving outcomes you wouldn’t practically be able to do without a systems approach. View the transcript of this episode here . Guest Jack McCloy is an Engineering Manager at Amplitude...

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Adekunle and Chris cover a number of topics spanning from the importance of flexibility, connection, communication, collaboration and designing systems to ultimately solve problems for its users.  View the transcript of this episode, here . Guest Adekunle Oduye (Add-eh-koon-lay Oh-due-yay) is currently building design systems at Plaid . Outside of work, he...

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Jen, Donnie and Chris discuss how design systems reflect the people a part of it, who use it and who maintain it; and the importance of collaboration, that systems are built for and with people. View the transcript of this episode, here .  Guest Jen is a product designer and educator from NYC. She’s currently a Senior Experience Designer at Signet Jewelers,...

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Michael and Chris discuss how systems have always been prominent when solving problems within designs and the importance they have in connecting and enabling everyone to remain consistent along the user journey.  Donald Judd - 100 untitled works in mill aluminum, 1982–1986 View the transcript of this episode, here . Guests Michael Jeter is the Creative Dire...

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Francesco and Chris discuss the importance of foundational concepts like code, that help secure buy-in and  prove value within an organization. Thus, supporting Francesco's current thoughts that building on existing design systems proves to be more viable for his work at Klarna. View the transcript of this episode here . Guests Francesco Cutolo is a De...

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Tyce and Smith discuss with Chris the concept of local systems and the focus on building areas within the business that extend past basics and build on core components that create variance.  View the transcript of this episode here . Guests Tyce Clee is an Engineering Manager working on Encore, the design system for Spotify. They’re a big fan of arcade game...

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Todd and Chris discuss shipping experiences, the experience being the product, and the math behind building a well-oiled design system.  View the transcript of this episode here . Guest Todd is the Chief Product Officer of Remote where he leads all things Product, including the Product Management and Design teams. Todd has led Product, Design, and P&L a...

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Nick and Chris discuss how 75% of production design jobs are going to go away, and what will replace this space. Ultimately, how do designers become proactive vs. reactive in an ever changing environment? View the transcript of this episode here . Guest Nick Hahn, is the founder of Creative Liberation, a coaching and design consultancy. He has spent 20 year...

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Dana Lawson and Chris discuss the future of design systems as it relates to the relationship between engineering leaders and design counterparts.  View the transcript of this episode here . Guest Dana Lawson is Senior Vice President of Engineering at Netlify overseeing Engineering and Support. Previously she has led and grown teams at GitHub, Heptio, InVisi...

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Kathryn Gonzalez and Chris discuss the evolution of design systems from centralized to localized and how DoorDash’s design system team is evolving as their system matures. Guest: Kathryn Gonzalez is the head of design infrastructure at DoorDash, where she leads design systems design, design systems engineering, accessibility, and prototyping. She was the fi...

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Evan Lovely (Head of Product & Engineering), Chris Bloom (Principal Front-End Engineer), Jake Love (Senior Solutions Engineer), and Brittany Smart (Solutions Engineer) join Chris to discuss the state of design systems today. Listen as the Knapsack team shares hot takes on everything from the lesser known elements of successful design systems to the role...

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Stephen Gates and Chris discuss the realities of design system leadership, unconventional sources of inspiration, and the impact of design on society.  Guest: With over 20 years of experience, Stephen is a global design leader who has built world-class teams at organizations that integrate research and data with human-centered design methods to drive busine...

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Sponsored by Knapsack, the design system platform that brings teams together. Learn more at knapsack.cloud . Vojtech Miksu (Software Engineer at Uber) and Evan Lovely (Chief Architect at Knapsack) join Chris to discuss the gap between a frontend developer’s code base and what actually gets shipped, the next-gen tool ( Ladle ) Vojtech created to address this...

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Meghan Rosatelli and Saejin Choi join Chris to discuss transitioning multiple design systems into one, shifting system consumers’ mindset from working with a local system to working with a global system, and using play to drive excitement and adoption of a design system. Guest: Meghan Rosatelli is the Director of Design for Capital One’s enterprise design s...

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Nick, Ellis, and Chris discuss how News UK’s design system, NewsKit , united multiple disparate brands in a central source of truth, and how infrastructure management has helped scale design and engineering practices. Guest: Ellis Capon is a Senior Product Manager at News UK, who looks after the NewsKit design system amongst other products within the NewsKi...

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Curious about the fun parts of design systems? Check out this episode of the Design Systems Podcast featuring Davy Fung, co-host of design systems podcast Design System Office Hours ,  who joined Chris to talk about working creatively within design system constraints, common structures for design systems, and building a Jedi Council of Design System Advocat...

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Una, Chris, and Chris talk about production-level code, the accessibility of Web3, and the new sliced bread of the web. Prepare for Una to blow your mind with how dynamic CSS can be. Guest: Una Kravets is ​​a Brooklyn-based developer who's making the web more styleable as a Developer Advocate at Google Chrome. Previously, she was the Director of Produc...

Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Corey and Chris discuss how design systems represent an organization’s lifeblood, the sisyphean parts of design system maintenance, and what stands out about design system culture at Compass. Guest: Corey is the Head of Design Systems at Compass. He has made a career out of building and leading design teams through complicated enterprise challenges to creat...