Owners Table

In Part 2, David Morrison shares how he built a thriving construction company after addiction, debt, and starting his business in rehab. He breaks down real-world lessons on cash flow, margins, leadership, and growing a business without losing your people—while reflecting on faith, recovery, and legacy.

David Morrison went from addiction and prison to rebuilding a stronger life and business than ever before. His comeback story is raw, powerful, and unforgettable.

Thomas breaks down the 9 biggest misconceptions about Infinite Banking — from “It’s just life insurance” to “Dave Ramsey says it’s a scam.” No hype, no sales pitch. Just simple explanations of how IBC actually works, why high-income earners use it, and how it gives you more control, liquidity, and uninterrupted growth. A must-listen if you’ve ever wondered whether Infinite Banking makes sense for...

In Part 2, Thomas and Devin get into the real-world strategies that make salespeople successful — handling objections with confidence, creating client-referral momentum through smart gifting, and structuring each day to actually win in business. Devin shares the mindset and habits that took him from new rep to top performer, plus practical advice on cash flow, appointments, and staying consistent...

At 27 years old, Devin Gillam has already lived three lives — broke college grad, missionary baseball player in Sweden, physical therapy student, and now one of the top Cutco sales producers in the country. In this episode, Devin breaks down how a random Snapchat ad during COVID launched a six-figure sales business, how he sold $300K of knives while in PT school full-time, and the systems, coachin...

In this episode, Bert Barrow shares his journey of losing everything—from being a bank president to selling burial policies and cleaning buildings with his family—and how faith and perseverance helped him rebuild his life. He opens up about learning humility, trusting God through uncertainty, and finding strength in hard work and generosity. Bert also offers candid advice on business lending, risk...

In part 1, Thomas talks with deal-maker and former commercial banker Bert Barrow about how he went from “last in, first out” to creating his own path in lending. They dig into why banks cap your success, how one $3,500 risk turned into a $27,500 payday, and why the money still didn’t feel like enough.

In part 2, Thomas Cox and Blake Shultz continue their talk on real estate investing, private lending, and the infinite banking concept—breaking down how to keep money working, avoid bad deals, and build lasting wealth.

Thomas flips the script — sitting down with his friend Blake Shultz to share the full story behind his journey from football coach to multi-business entrepreneur. From founding Mealfit and Table & Thyme to building vending, real-estate, and investment ventures, Thomas opens up about faith, family, finances, and the mindset that turned everyday opportunities into long-term freedom. Hear how obe...

In Part 2 of his conversation with Thomas, Paul Harbor of Bellwether Enterprises dives deeper into the mindset and mechanics behind managing millions in real estate. He talks about how he structures his commission-only income, what he learned from clients who lost everything, and why attention to detail separates the great investors from the rest. From deal flow and syndications to lessons on fait...

Thomas Cox sits down with Paul Harbor of Bellwether Enterprises to talk about his journey from small-town Jasper to closing over $5 billion in real estate deals. From selling shirts at 12 to a chance guitar sale that launched his career, Paul shares how grit and timing shaped his path in commercial real estate. He breaks down what makes a great multifamily deal, the truth about Fannie Mae and Fred...

In Part 2 of this conversation with Cal Tinsley, we dive deep into the gritty realities of coaching, performance training, and business ownership. Cal opens up about the myths in athletic development, how NIL deals are reshaping youth sports, and what most coaches and parents misunderstand about training. He shares behind-the-scenes stories from his time with the Braves, key insights about scaling...

Weeks before his first child was born, Cal Tinsley was fired with no backup plan—just conviction, pressure, and a decision to build his own business. In this episode, he joins Thomas to talk about betting on yourself, leading before you’re ready, and why sometimes the only strategy is to figure it out or fail. From landscaping jobs to coaching pros and managing 47 teams, Cal shares the mindset and...

Why employees really leave—and how to stop it. David Hicks breaks down the playbook: show a clear growth path, protect work‑life balance, and hire with sales‑level speed. We hit hybrid vs. remote realities, what to do when a star walks, and the “digital footprint” test for roles.

Recruiter David Hicks (25+ years) shows owners how to hire right, not fast. We cover smarter screening, what “culture fit” actually means, where top talent really is (hint: not job boards), and the real ROI of using a recruiter—plus the hidden costs of bad hires you can avoid today. You’ll walk away with smarter ways to hire and retain top people

What happens when you build a successful business—then lose it all? In this raw and honest conversation, Kelly Olcott shares the hard lessons behind his journey from Marine to millionaire contractor, to bankrupt entrepreneur, and finally to building again with more purpose than ever before. It’s not just about money—it’s about legacy, leadership, and learning the difference between chasing success...

Duane continues his conversation with Thomas and shares how he integrates Christian faith and servant leadership into his company’s culture and operations. He discusses the challenges of maintaining spiritual focus in a high-pressure business environment and the importance of mentorship, daily spiritual habits, and generosity. Duane introduces “Abide and Lead,” a ministry initiative helping busine...

Entrepreneur Duane Donner shares his journey from growing up in Louisiana to founding Founders Advisors, an investment banking firm. He discusses his early career, military service, and first entrepreneurial venture, highlighting the challenges and lessons learned. Duane details his spiritual transformation and how faith now guides his approach to business. The conversation explores best practices...

Thomas and Blake continue their conversation about Blake's journey from real estate rentals to business acquisitions, particularly in equipment rentals. Blake shares insights on building a diverse real estate portfolio, reinvesting cash flow, and transitioning from a hustler to a CEO mindset through coaching. They talk about faith-driven leadership, financial literacy for children, and strategies...

In this episode, Birmingham real estate investor and agent Blake Schultz shares his journey from his first flip—marked by costly mistakes—to building a diverse real estate portfolio. Blake discusses lessons learned from rental properties, navigating HOA challenges, and partnering with his father. The conversation covers multifamily deals, the value of strong teams, and strategies for long-term suc...

Thomas shares Jeremy’s real-life journey using infinite banking to buy a car and grow his wealth. Over five years, he avoided bank loans, increased his policy’s cash value, and gained full ownership of the car. The episode highlights how infinite banking can help achieve financial goals and how to use this alternative wealth-building strategy.

Thomas interviews Chris, a Regional Vice President at Ameritas, about the Infinite Banking Concept (IBC) and Ameritas's support for it through whole life insurance products. Chris shares insights from his 19 years at Ameritas, discussing company culture, employee development, and the importance of relationships in insurance. Their conversation covers how technology is changing the industry, the va...

Thomas shares a strategy for business owners to gain tax deductions and build generational wealth by paying their children for legitimate work and investing these funds in whole life insurance policies to grow cash value tax-free. This approach not only reduces business taxes but also teaches children financial literacy and money management.

Thomas explores the Infinite Banking Concept (IBC) as a powerful alternative to traditional savings and investment vehicles. He explains how IBC, beyond just life insurance, allows individuals to grow their money tax-free, access funds anytime, and protect wealth from creditors. By comparing IBC to conventional accounts like savings, CDs, and retirement plans, the episode highlights IBC’s advantag...

Thomas continues his conversation with real estate investor Zac Lovoy about his investment strategies, focusing on owner financing and lease-to-purchase agreements. Zac shares insights on evaluating properties, structuring deals, and the importance of mentorship in real estate. He discusses the value of learning from experienced investors, navigating market cycles, and building knowledge before se...