Charles Coplin and Mike Smith
Out of Our League
Hosts and former NFL executives Charles Coplin and Mike Smith offer unique insight and perspective into the world of sports. Charles Coplin is an Emmy Award winning Producer and Programmer who has worked for four television networks, two American Sports Leagues, overseen shows with Beatles, Stones and Springsteen, and consulted with Russian media on how to create and grow sports fans. He sits at the apex of sports, entertainment and popular culture utilizing ever changing technologies to tell stories both live and on tape across multiple platforms. Mike Smith is the Founder of Huddle Advisory,...
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Jul 9, 2026
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Episodes
VARgentina 09.07.2026 50:44
We love the World Cup, but… This week Charles and Mike discuss the continued brilliance of the world’s great tournament, but also run through their issues with VAR, Team USA’s embarrassing exit, FOX’s coverage, and more. Plus, LeBron’s latest free agency is playing out on a podcast, and does anybody care about the MLB All-Star festivities? Jason’s Wormbyte dives deeper into the World Cup ratin...
Did You Know the U.S. is Playing vs. Bosnia and Herzegovina Tonight on FOX? 01.07.2026 37:13
So much for a quiet time in the sports calendar. Charles and Mike react to LeBron James’ decision to leave the Lakers, Kawhi Leonard being traded back to the Raptors, and other happenings around the association. Then they bring in Jason to talk all things World Cup from Mike’s first-hand experience, FOX’s coverage, the ratings, and more! Happy Bobby Bonilla day!
What Does This Mean For Thanasis? 23.06.2026 39:17
Is it still NBA season?! Charles and Mike react to a massive day of news around the association, including the Heat acquiring Giannis Antetokounmpo in a blockbuster deal, Dusty May leaving Michigan for the Mavericks, and the First Round of the Draft. Plus, the World Cup ratings are booming thanks to Team USA and all of the superstars, another twist in the Brendan Sorsby saga, a complex controvers...
Empire State of Mind 16.06.2026 30:20
The Knicks and Hurricanes are champions again! Charles and Mike praise the dominant playoff runs by the new champs and close the book on the NBA & NHL seasons after two highly-rated finals. Then they turn their attention to the World Cup, which has already featured a huge USMNT win, name-less stadiums, and hydration breaks. Plus, Brendan Sorsby is headed to the NFL Supplemental Draft, the A...
The OG 11.06.2026 43:03
It was an MSG miracle! Charles and Mike react to the Knicks’ historic comeback in Game 4 of the NBA Finals, discuss the larger implications of the instant classic, break down what this series has meant for the league as a whole, and hear from Producer Joe about his experience attending Game 3. Plus, the Stanley Cup Final has also been filled with thrillers, Brendan Sorsby has the NCAA hitting a...
French Press 01.06.2026 30:35
Oui Oui! France has taken over the sports world. Charles and Mike start with breaking news in the NFL that includes the Rams making another blockbuster trade, this time for Myles Garrett, and Russell Wilson joining CBS' pregame show. Then, both the NBA Finals & Stanley Cup Final are set, but the narratives and hype for the two series couldn’t be further apart. Plus, PSG repeats at Cham...
Analytically Speaking 28.05.2026 41:56
What a week it was! Charles and Mike start by recapping a fun night out celebrating their old boss & mentor, Steve Bornstein. Then they talk NBA and Stanley Cup Playoffs, where the Knicks and Avalanche are awaiting their respective championship opponents. Plus, the NBA institutes new draft rules, Greg Olsen wins the Emmy over Tom Brady, a bipartisan effort to “protect college sports” is int...
Spur of the Moment 20.05.2026 45:28
It took awhile, but the NBA & Stanley Cup Playoffs are heating up! Mike and Charles react to a pair of classic Game 1s, discuss ESPN’s coverage, and speculate about a potential dream Knicks-Spurs championship matchup. Then they turn their attention to the NFL Schedule Reveal, highlighting the increase in standalone games, which teams got put into a tough spot, and much more! Plus, after pre...
Sharp Elbows & It’s Quite Cloudy In Philadelphia 11.05.2026 23:36
It’s cloudy again in Philadelphia. Charles and Mike check in on the latest from the NBA & NHL playoffs, including both Philly teams being swept, a controversial Victor Wembanyama ejection, and trouble watching games while traveling. Then the guys discuss the upcoming NFL Schedule reveal, react to the unsurprising announcement of Cowboys/Giants Week 1 on SNF, debate the 76-team NCAA Tournamen...
The Superstation, The NBA Playoffs, and Theeee Yankees Win 06.05.2026 28:26
With the second round underway in both the NBA and NHL Playoffs, Charles and Mike discuss the ratings, the TV schedule, major injuries, and more! Then, Jason rants about the NHL Draft Lottery, MLB’s ABS evolution continues, and could Mike Tomlin be the next John Madden? Jason’s Wormbyte honors two icons that we lost this week: Ted Turner & John Sterling. Plus, The Dr. Mike Smith Sports Mome...
Draftapalooza 23.04.2026 44:09
It’s Draft Day! This week, Charles and Mike discuss the NFL Draft and explain why it has become such an indicator of the league’s success. Then they react to Mike Tomlin’s move to NBC, the ongoing Mike Vrabel/Dianna Russini saga, and the NFL’s meeting with the FCC. Plus, the playoffs are underway in both the NBA and NHL! Jason’s Wormbyte covers the latest from LIV, conversations around the CFP...
The Good, the Bad and the Ugly 08.04.2026 38:05
Charles and Mike covered all the bases this week: The good (Michigan and UCLA winning National Championships), the bad (the Lakers losing both Luka Doncic and Austin Reaves), and the ugly (Geno Auriemma’s behavior after UConn’s semifinal loss). Plus, North Carolina hires Michael Malone, Fernando Mendoza will not attend the NFL Draft, and Jo Adell has a day that at least Charles will remember. Ja...
You Can’t Defeat The Robots! 01.04.2026 40:09
Is this the maddest March yet? Charles and Mike react to Braylon Mullins' instantly iconic game-winner to send UConn to the Final Four and discuss the NCAA Tournament as a whole. Then they cover all of the news out of the NFL League Meetings - Will we see replacement refs again? Would an 18-game season be too much? Should the Super Bowl always be in Las Vegas? Plus, Tiger Woods steps away...
More March Madness 18.03.2026 33:04
It’s backwards day on Out of Our League! This week, Jason takes the reins of the show as he and Mike START with an insightful Dr. Mike Smith Sports Moment of the Week, and then discuss the success of the World Baseball Classic, the start of the NCAA Tournament, the latest on NBA expansion, and much more! Then Charles, who couldn’t help but chime in a few times earlier, finally has his own segmen...
Bam Bam 12.03.2026 38:43
Dr. Mike is under the weather this week, so Jason joins Charles as they discuss Bam Adebayo's historic yet controversial 83-point game vs the Wizards. One World Baseball Classic manager doesn't understand the format. NFL Free Agency gets no more bizarre than Maxx Crosby is a Raven and is now back to being a Raider. What's the fallout? Tua, Murray, Willis on the move - what is the be...
Of Paramount Importance 05.03.2026 27:24
This episode was… paramount. Charles and Mike react to the blockbuster Paramount-Warner Bros. deal and discuss all of the questions that it raises. What’s next in the “Streaming Wars”? How does it impact the future of sports rights? What will it cost the consumer? And so much more. Plus, Jason’s Wormbyte pays tribute to the great Lou Holtz, dives into the F1-Apple partnership, and of course tou...
The Gold Standard 25.02.2026 36:19
Team USA Hockey struck gold twice, defeating Canada in overtime on both the men’s and women’s side. Charles and Mike react to the epic conclusion to the 2026 Winter Olympics, discuss NBC’s production of the games, and what it may mean for the NHL going forward. Plus, it’s NFL Combine week, and the guys have plenty of stories from their trips to Indianapolis. Jason’s Wormbyte covers his experien...
US vs The World 18.02.2026 30:55
It was another busy week in the wide world of sports, and the guys have it all covered! Charles shares his thoughts on the NBA's revamped All-Star game and the league's self-acknowledged regular season issues. Mike tackles the end of the NFLPA report cards and a change coming to MLB broadcasts. While Jason's Wormbyte hits the latest from the Olympics, Anthony Kim's comeback,...
Super Tazón Sesenta 10.02.2026 39:23
The Seahawks dominance made Super Bowl LX pretty boring on the field, but how was the overall production? Charles and Mike react to NBC’s broadcast, the brilliance of Mike Tirico and Cris Collinsworth, Bad Bunny’s much-debated halftime performance, and everything else from the big game. Plus, the Winter Olympics are underway, but they already lost their biggest star. NBA All-Star Weekend is up nex...
Pray for It 05.02.2026 50:02
Super Bowl week is here! Charles and Mike discuss ratings expectations for NBC, Bad Bunny's inevitably polarizing halftime show, and Roger Goodell's groundhog day-esque press conference, where the commissioner once again had to address the league's lack of diversity when it comes to coaching hires. Plus, it's time for the Winter Olympics (also on NBC), the ESPN/NFL deal is of...
Bill Doesn't Receive a Hall Pass 29.01.2026 31:55
Bill Belichick isn’t a first-ballot Hall of Famer? Really? Charles and Mike react to the stunning snub before diving into an all-time great NFL postseason that will culminate with Super Bowl LX between the Patriots and Seahawks. Plus, Shedeur Sanders is a Pro Bowler (again, really?), and the rich get richer as the Dodgers sign Kyle Tucker. Jason’s Wormbyte covers his first-hand experience watchi...
Brokedown Palace: The Steel Curtain is Closed 14.01.2026 36:21
After five straight (mostly) thrilling days of football, Charles and Mike are here to break it all down! Was that Aaron Rodgers’ final game? Is Mike Tomlin headed to television? Which network had the strongest broadcast? Plus, the Bears vs. Packers rivalry is officially back, the CFP ratings take a hit, Fanatics is getting into the content business, LeBron is pat-ching himself on the front of...
Quoth the Raven, Nevermore 07.01.2026 28:08
The final day of the NFL regular season dragged on until the Sunday Night Game 272 thriller, which had major consequences. Charles and Mike react to all of the Week 18 happenings, break down the Wild Card Weekend TV schedule, and highlight another record-breaking ratings season for the NFL. Then, John Harbaugh joined six other fired head coaches, but why are there only two open GM jobs? Jason&ap...
Looking Back On The First Quarter Of The 21st Century 03.01.2026 52:46
Happy New Year! Charles and Mike ring in 2026 by discussing the surprising College Football Playoff semifinal field. Then, they turn their attention to the NFL to talk about what's at stake in Week 18, try to predict what the Super Wild Card Weekend schedule may look like, and react to the Chiefs’ move across state lines. Plus, Jason presents an audio montage featuring some of the biggest...
And the Oscar Goes To...YouTube! 18.12.2025 35:00
Did Charles really pick the Criterion Channel over the NBA Cup final? He tells Mike why he made that decision, despite the fact that he considered the league's third annual in-season trip to Vegas to have been a success. Staying in the association, expansion may or may not be on the way, and league decisions on both Terry Rozier and the Los Angeles Clippers still hang in the balance. The N...
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