Charles Coplin and Mike Smith
Out of Our League
Hosts and former NFL executives Charles Coplin and Mike Smith offer unique insight and perspective into the world of sports. Charles Coplin is an Emmy Award winning Producer and Programmer who has worked for four television networks, two American Sports Leagues, overseen shows with Beatles, Stones and Springsteen, and consulted with Russian media on how to create and grow sports fans. He sits at the apex of sports, entertainment and popular culture utilizing ever changing technologies to tell stories both live and on tape across multiple platforms. Mike Smith is the Founder of Huddle Advisory,...
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Jul 9, 2026
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Episodes
A Rivers Runs Through It 12.12.2025 33:47
As always, it was a jam-packed week in the world of football. Charles and Mike discuss Sherrone Moore being fired from Michigan and then arrested that same night, Notre Dame taking its bowl and going home, and the Irish-less College Football Playoff field. Then, in the pros, the Colts turn to... Philip Rivers?! The draft will be shorter, the refs will get more training, and the flag football mo...
Ho! Ho! Hoe! 05.12.2025 28:04
Live from New York! For the first time ever, the guys come together to record a live, in-person show! Charles and Mike discuss Lane Kiffin's dramatic move from Ole Miss to LSU and what it means for the overall state of college sports. Plus, a very successful Thanksgiving weekend, and an even more intriguing weekend ahead for the NFL, Netflix's big move to hire Elle Duncan away from ES...
Blame it on the Voodoo 19.11.2025 38:24
Disney is finally back on YouTube TV! Charles and Mike discuss the deal, which includes a belated, but under-promoted, win for consumers. A big week on the field in the NFL led to more bad calls, bad coaching, and a second spitting incident of the season. Off the field, all three Thanksgiving halftime shows have been announced, but when will we know who Netflix's Christmas act will be? Pl...
Remembering Paul Tagliabue 12.11.2025 44:59
Charles, Mike, and Jason pay tribute to the great Paul Tagliabue and share stories from their time working with him when he was the Commissioner of the NFL. In media news, the YouTube vs. Disney blackout is somehow still going, while ESPN and FOX are playing Grinch when it comes to Netflix's Christmas Day talent. Plus, two more athletes are indicted on gambling-related charges, Nico Harriso...
How Can MLB Leverage This Momentum? 05.11.2025 41:32
The Dodgers went back-to-back in arguably the greatest World Series of all-time. Now, how does MLB capitalize on it? Charles and Mike answer that question and react to the epic series from all angles. The YouTube TV-Disney blackout continues, begging the question, "when will the fans say enough?" Plus, a major betting scandal in the UFC, LIV Golf may need to become LXXII Golf, and Tom...
Let's Play 18! 29.10.2025 33:28
The 2025 World Series has delivered so far, headlined by Monday's 18-inning Game 3 thriller. Charles and Mike share how long they were able to stay up, as well as their overall thoughts on the Fall Classic from a media and business perspective. Carlie Irsay-Gordon is revolutionizing NFL ownership, the jerseys stain a Sunday Night Football matchup between two iconic teams, and the Ravens&apo...
The NBA is Back, You Bet 23.10.2025 38:49
The NBA is back... with a massive scandal. Charles and Mike react to Chauncey Billups and Terry Rozier being arrested for illegal gambling, and discuss what it means for the sports world in general. They stay in the association to discuss NBC's big opening night and Inside the NBA's ESPN debut. The World Series is set, but who is going to watch? Plus, Sean Payton disses his old quart...
Not So Happy Valley 15.10.2025 33:48
It was cloudy again in Philadelphia as the Phillies were eliminated, the Eagles got crushed in primetime, and James Franklin was fired. Charles consoles Mike through it all before they turn their attention to the MLB Postseason as a whole, including a potential Dodgers vs. Mariners World Series matchup and a missed opportunity by the league to promote their stars. Plus, Brian Daboll should expec...
Chris Fowler In The House 08.10.2025 58:00
Another week, another big guest! Mike is back from vacation, and he and Charles are joined by ESPN's Chris Fowler to discuss the state of College Football, the luster-losing MLB Postseason, Jerry Jones' expensive middle finger, and, of course, Taylor Swift. Plus, Chris details the preparation that it takes to call championship events across three different sports. Do play-by-play guy...
Jeff Pearlman In The House 01.10.2025 38:09
With Mike on vacation this week, Charles is joined by New York Times Best-Selling Author Jeff Pearlman to discuss some of his favorite subjects, including the Mets, the Jets, Walter Payton, and his upcoming book "Only God Can Judge Me: The Many Lives of Tupac Shakur". Then, Charles and Jeff discuss Bad Bunny headlining Super Bowl LX, the NFL's continued growth internationally, and...
Get Off My Lawn 24.09.2025 44:23
It was a great weekend for the NFL, but it left Charles with numerous grievances. He rants to Mike on the state of current NFL studio shows, the accessibility of games, and more. Plus, robot umps are here, POTUS is headed to another sporting event, and is a new NFL media deal already looming? Jason's Wormbyte spans from FIFA (of course) to Mike Gundy to Fat Bear Week?! And the Mike Smith S...
The Best There Ever Was 18.09.2025 47:17
Brady, Brady, Brady. As usual, the GOAT was all over the news this week. Mike and Charles discuss how comfortable the NFL may or may not be with Brady as an analyst, an owner, and a flag football player?! Plus, the tush push is under fire again, and there are more developments in the Clippers' Kawhi Leonard saga. Jason's Wormbyte honors Robert Redford, one of the best there ever was...
The Triumphant Return of the Couch Potato 10.09.2025 46:05
YouTube? Lightning? Historic comebacks? The NFL is back! Mike and Charles react to all the happenings of Week 1 and look ahead to the Week 2 TV schedule. Plus, you can add presidential arrival-induced delays to the list of reasons to watch sports at home. Jason's Wormbyte pays tribute to two legends, and the Mike Smith Sports Moment of the Week spawns another classic Prince story.
The NFL Kicks Off, You Have Questions...We Have Answers 03.09.2025 45:25
This being 150 (and they said it wouldn't last) Jason, Charles, and Mike ask each other questions and then take voicemails from long-time fans, including a couple of voices you might recognize. Plus, Micah, and did the Commish just tell us who halftime is?
"It's Not Happening. I Can't Talk About it." 20.08.2025 36:35
Spike Lee's documentary about Colin Kaepernick falls incomplete. Charles channels Fox Mulder to suggest a conspiracy theory. Mike joins in, and they talk about proposed MLB expansion and media deals. The HR Derby is headed to Netflix? Will Beyonce perform? Jason on the continued saga of CFB and a thumbs way up for the new Cowboys doc. Plus, the Dr. Mike Smith Sports Moment of the Week.
UFC Presents Happy Birthday America Live From The White House, Only on CBS 14.08.2025 41:32
A gigantic week for the UFC, Taylor goes to New Heights, Gruden and Flores strike back. Additionally, do people care about sideline reporters or the Milwaukee Brewers? Mike, Charles, and Jason have much more on the week in spots.
Breaking Down the Massive ESPN/NFL Deal 07.08.2025 45:16
As the former head of NFL HR and the first head of programming for NFL Network, Mike and Charles discuss the seismic sports media deal that finally came to fruition. How it affects the marketplace, the future, the fan, the people and perhaps most importantly the Red Zone! Plus Jason's Wormbyte on Heung-min Son going from London Town to Tinsel Town and the Dr. Mike Smith Sports Moment of the...
345 Park Avenue 31.07.2025 39:37
Mike and Charles open the show discussing the horrible tragedy that occurred in the NFL offices on Monday. As the former Head of Human Resources, Mike gives insight on how the League Office will forever be changed. After a break, Jason put together some exciting sound from the world of sports in the month of July. Labor woes after the NFLPA scandal, Bryce Harper v Rob Manfred, WNBA players wear &...
Basketball Moneyball 02.07.2025 43:17
Mike and Charles follow the money to NBA free agency and NFL expansion. Plus the NFL goes to the movies, and speaking of movies, F1 is the rare good sports movie, and Jason joins to talk about 2025 biggest media stories so far. All that and the Dr. Mike Smith Sports Moment of the Week as his triumphant return to the Patriots.
Winning Time 19.06.2025 50:50
The guys discuss the big news from the week, a historic Lakers sale, great championships with small audiences, and the changing media landscape. US Open golf, PGA Tour, basketball, hockey, and the Dr. Mike Smith Sports Moment of the Week.
Is Anybody Watching? 11.06.2025 34:34
Three sports, three finals, but is anybody watching? More NCAA upheaval, plus Jason's Wormbyte on Oakmont and the dreadful USMNT and the Dr. Mike Smith Sports Moment of the Week, RIP Brian Wilson.
Really? Again? 05.06.2025 41:05
He's baaaack. Aaron Rodgers is a Steeler. Tom Thibodeau is no longer a Knick. TNT says farewell to the NBA (sort of). Will this be the lowest-rated NBA Finals, and if so, how would that affect the NBA? More soccer violence in Europe, and MLB invests in Women's Softball, which has better ratings than the Stanley Cup Final. Plus Jason's Wormbyte on FIFA and the Dr. Mike Smith Sports M...
Time to Change the Format? 21.05.2025 47:13
The NBA Playoff format and thoughts and insights on many different sports are discussed by Charles, Mike, and Jason and of course the Dr. Mike Smith Sports Moment of the Week
Ultimate Commander 07.05.2025 29:54
Buzzer beaters, last-minute lamplighters. It's playoff time, and more people are watching. The NFL goes to the White House. Among the topics, Alcatraz. Wrexham is in the money, the Wormbyte; a fantastic Champions League game, and the Mike Smith Sports Moment of the Week.
We're Not Going To Talk About That 30.04.2025 29:43
Why did Shadeur Sanders fall so far? What's up with Bill Belichick's book? The NBA Playoffs are getting chippy. Plus Jason's Wormbyte and the Mike Smith Sports Moment of the Week.
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