Joan Garry & Glennda Testone
Nonprofits Are Messy: Lessons in Leadership | Fundraising | Board Development | Communications
Nonprofits Are Messy is the podcast for nonprofit leaders navigating the real challenges of leadership, fundraising, governance, communications, and organizational growth. Hosted by Joan Garry and Glennda Testone, each episode features candid conversations, practical advice, and honest stories to help you lead with greater confidence through the messiness of nonprofit work.
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Jun 20, 2026
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Episodes
Ep 131: Becoming a Social Prophet (with Lynne Twist) 03.04.2021 49:19
If you’re struggling with fundraising or having trouble getting people you know to open their hearts and pockets, listen for tips on how you can inspire others to become social prophets.
Ep 130: A Powerful Approach to Keeping Remote Staff Motivated (with Dr. Paul White) 20.03.2021 50:27
How do we continue to motivate and appreciate our staff in times of prolonged crisis? It has been over a year since the world shut down due to the pandemic and it has been challenging to stay motivated and connected in a virtual work environment. Dr. Paul White makes work relationships work. He is a speaker and trainer who has taught all around the world, from NASA to the CDC, and has co-authored...
Ep 129: Finding the Right Leader For Your Org (with Melissa Madzel) 06.03.2021 51:32
An org is most vulnerable when the CEO decides to move on. In this episode, we discuss the right way to conduct a search for a new leader.
Ep 128: Making Beautiful Music With Community-Driven Partnerships (with Henry Donahue) 20.02.2021 56:08
Learn how Save the Music Foundation creates long-term renewable relationships that lead to multi-year investments from philanthropic funders.
Ep 127: Building a Grassroots Movement From Scratch (with Donna Dees and Shikha Hamilton) 06.02.2021 52:19
In the year 2000, Donna Dees rallied hundreds of thousands of people to march on Washington. How did she build such a large grassroots movement from scratch in only 9 months?
Ep 126: Creating 5-Star Special Events in the Virtual Age (with Liz Page and Amanda Harless) 23.01.2021 53:36
How do you create a truly successful virtual event? My guests share with us how intimate a virtual event can actually be!
Ep 125: What Will You Carry Into 2021? 09.01.2021 19:07
As we close out a most devastating year, I’d like to offer you my own reflections on the things I am carrying into 2021.
Ep 124: The 5 Giving Trends That Will Define Online Fundraising (with Scot Chisholm) 02.01.2021 52:58
Where is online fundraising headed post-pandemic? Scot Chisholm, founder of fundraising software platform Classy, looks into his crystal ball and tells us what he sees.
Ep 123: The Single Best Sign of a Healthy Nonprofit (with Carlos de la Rosa and Rosanne Siino) 19.12.2020 1:02:38
Do you know the single best indicator of the health of a nonprofit? There is one KEY ingredient for a healthy nonprofit. And it’s even more important during a crisis. In this episode I talk with Carlos de la Rosa and Rosanne Siino, Executive Director and Board Chair of the Lindsay Wildlife Preserve. Hint: Notice I invited an E.D. AND a board chair on the podcast… The “co-pilots” of the organizatio...
Ep 122: How to Use Artificial Intelligence to Improve Donor Retention (with Allison Fine and Beth Kanter) 05.12.2020 55:58
This episode is about the role that AI is starting to play in transforming philanthropy by reducing rote tasks and fueling donor retention.
Ep 121: Creating a 5-Star Board Retreat (with Dolph Goldenburg) 21.11.2020 49:07
We discuss why boards matter, when to have a board retreat, how retreats have gone virtual, and what it takes to make a retreat a home run.
Bonus Episode: Turn Your Impatience to Your Heroic Pursuits 05.11.2020 12:08
I would like to encourage you to turn your impatience toward your heroic pursuits. After all, there’s a reason you become a nonprofit superhero.
Ep 120: Raising the Next Generation of Nonprofit Leaders (with Charlotte Alter) 24.10.2020 1:00:15
Boomers are aging out of nonprofit leadership in droves. Many started organizations post Vietnam and there is a huge impending leadership void in the sector that needs to be filled. Nonprofit boards tend to skew old and are distrusting of youth and "inexperience". And so the cycle continues. So who will fill this void? How do we build a leadership pipeline? In May of 2017 Charlotte Alter, national...
Ep 119: Your First 90 Days as an Executive Director (with Michael Watkins) 10.10.2020 53:43
There are steps can be taken to ensure success and begin the process of crafting your legacy as a leader, even BEFORE you take on a new role.
Ep. 118: The Growing Charitable Movement That’s Raised a Billion Dollars (with Sara Lomelin) 26.09.2020 49:19
Giving circles have raised well over a BILLION dollars over the past 20 years. Learn how your org can tap into this growing movement.
Ep 117: The Hunt for Great Board Members (with Robert Acton and Lalita Badinehal) 12.09.2020 55:06
If you’ve ever had trouble finding great board members, or getting them ready to serve your organizations at a high level, you’ll want to listen to this episode.
Ep 116: The Most Important Piece of Diversity Work: Belonging (with Neha Sampat) 29.08.2020 56:28
My journey through the world is highly enriched by the diversity of folks around me.
Ep 115: Taking Nonprofits From Good to Great – Part 2 (with Jim Collins) 15.08.2020 41:47
In this episode, Jim Collins and I continue to explore the question of why some organizations thrive in uncertainty and chaos and others do not. Quite timely!
Ep 114: What If Fundraising De-Emphasized the Donor? (with Vu Le and Michelle Muri) 01.08.2020 52:55
There are those who believe that the donor-centric fundraising model may be perpetuating the very inequity we seek to address in the nonprofit sector.
Ep 113: Taking Nonprofits From Good to Great – Part 1 (with Jim Collins) 18.07.2020 32:47
My guest today, best selling author Jim Collins, literally wrote the book on how to navigate a path from good to great and I could not be more excited to have him on the podcast!
Ep 112: What Foundations Are Thinking Right Now (with Caryl M. Stern) 04.07.2020 38:03
So many nonprofits are struggling. Facing crises that are existential. I wanted to know what funders, especially foundations, are thinking at this time.
Ep 111: Once Upon a Time There Was a Fundraiser Who… (with Dan Portnoy) 20.06.2020 51:43
Just for a moment, imagine what it would mean for your organization if you could double your online fundraising next year.
Ep 110: How to Have Difficult Conversations – Part 2 (with Sheila Heen) 06.06.2020 34:11
Accepting criticism is an important leadership skill. But how might we exercise that skill when it feels off base, unfair, or poorly delivered?
Ep 109: How to Have Difficult Conversations – Part 1 (with Sheila Heen) 23.05.2020 39:45
How do you build the muscle to make sure difficult conversations go well? What might you not be aware of that could change everything?
Ep 108: A New CEO Job Starts in the Heat of a Pandemic (with Ellen LaPointe) 09.05.2020 49:27
Imagine you start a new CEO job at a wonderful nonprofit. And then a pandemic hits. Changes things just a bit, right? That's what happened to my guest.
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