No Small Thing

The B* Boys are a Seattle Hip Hop group that we think make dope music ...but their journey as friends who formed a band together and grew as artists is just as compelling. Being a creative means living on the edge of uncertainty. These guys consistently lean into the unknown to make music that sounds fresh and authentic. For this episode we got to host the B* Boys at our weekly recording spot (out...

This week its all about ENNEAGRAM SIX (it's been a while!). For this episode we had the privilege of talking to Ben Campbell who is an enneagram six and a certified enneagram coach through The Enneagram Institute. As you know we have been studying The Enneagram for a while now, but Ben shared some thoughts and concepts that kind of blew our mind! We hope you sixes have an opportunity to hear someo...

Walking is quite possibly one of the greatest human experiences. Do you agree? It makes you feel like you're epic main character in a movie when you do it by yourself, it helps you bond and problem solve when you're with a friend, it gets you places! 1 hour before we recorded this conversation an interview we had set up fell through so we pivoted and decided to talk about something that has been r...

Is it possible for two friends to have an over two hour conversation about chips? 100 percent absolutely! In the early days of the pod we often thought that the idea of talking about chips for an hour was like a challenge or something. Now we know that the challenge is actually ending the conversation! What IS a chip exactly? What makes a good chip? And, perhaps most importantly, is a cheeto a chi...

One of the best rap duos of all time (if not THE best) definitely deserve a 2 hour conversation, right!? In this episode we talk about what we love about Run the Jewels...how their music speaks to us...and how their relationship as "band mates" inspires this podcast. And mostly this is actually just a really chill listening party where we listen to a bunch of Run the Jewels tracks and hope we don'...

What is your relationship with your dreams? How often do you dream? Is it every night? Every once in a while? Do your dreams have any significance? How does one interpret one's dreams? Are dreams serious? Funny? Insightful? Benign!? These are just some of the questions we had going into this episode! And we invite you to explore these questions with us! In this episode we talk about a history of w...

This week we are talking Enneagram PASSIONS (aka each type's deadly sin!). Our passion is a CORE element in determining our ennea type and we are long overdue for a discussion about this. We made sort of a BOLD decision for this episode which was to allow Claudio Naranjo be our guide through one of his books on the passions. We got in a bit over our heads but we had fun doing it. We ended learning...

Having a conversation about Black Lives Matter is long overdue. It goes without saying that this is no small thing. We are committed to talking about this and doing our part to work for equity, equality, and justice. This conversation is a conversation between two white people and FOR a primarily white audience. We believe we need to be having these conversations despite inevitably making mistakes...

This week we are bringing you an intriguing interview with BARRY TAYLOR (aka ukbloke). Barry is a philosopher, artist, theologian, author, provocateur, style mavin, and all around cool human. This starts off as a conversation about anti-branding and being true to yourself and your creative vision but in true No Small Thing fashion we end up just talking about philosophy and art and meaning and rel...

The enneagram teaches us to pursue a path integration. 5's go to 8/ 4's go to 1/ 7's go to 5....until now we thought this was somewhat of a nebulous energy to access...but soul child theory basically says that we essentially behaved as our "integrated self" as a kid! In this episode we explore soul child theory! We try to unpack what it is and also, of course, how it applies to us!

For two years we have been recording curious conversations on Thursday nights. These curious conversations about things like Defense Mechanisms and The Enneagram and Color and The Trinity and "Voice" and all these other strange topics...well it leads to to more additional strange and emotional conversations in between takes! And people have honestly asked us to share about these things! So this ep...

Here is our full uncut interview with Abi Robins from Conscious Construction! This interview is a longer version of the interview we recently featured in our 100th episode where we interviewed nearly 30 different people and asked them to reflect on how they are experiencing quarantine through the lens of their type. Abi teaches this stuff for a living and really brought the big eight energy to the...

Join us this week as we celebrate our 100th episode. It's an enneagram week, and in honor of it being our 100th episode we decided to make this a mega episode where we talk with 25+ folks from around the country to here how their are doing and to talk Enneagram AND Covid. This episode both gives a great taste of all the numbers but also sets out to make an audio recording of how folks are doing in...

JOBS PART 2 IS HERE and necessary, everyone! Yes- jobs of course are no small thing...but more than every jobs our on our minds because of covid-19. But also your no small co-hosts day jobs have changed dramatically recently and we thought you would be interested in an update on that. Hopefully this episode will be a cathartic and relevant way to relax and process a little bit with some of your po...

Join us this week as we gush are rave over Fiona Apple's newest album! We begin this episode with a conversation between Scott and Macie about first having Fiona on their radar (Macie being a big fan has a lot to say!) and then they jump right into a conversation about her latest album Fetch the Bolt Cutters...which is SO SO SO good! They talk first impressions, favorite songs and lyrics AND THEN...

This week we are joined by Ashon Crawley for such a riveting and unlocking conversation. Ashon is Associate Professor of Religious Studies and African American and African Studies at the University of Virginia. He is the author of Blackpentecostal Breath: The Aesthetics of Possibility, and recently came out with a new book, The Lonely Letters. In this conversation Ashon invites us into his world a...

Steven Universe is one of our favorite shows and something that the both of us have bonded over throughout the history of No Small Thing. Recently (as many of you know) this very profound and emotional show came to a close. This is our attempt at a conversation where we try to process everything Steven has meant to us...and we specifically try and process Steven Universe Future. You'll hear us dis...

Everyone! Our last interview with Marisa was one of our most listened to recent episodes! And since I (Scott) live with Marisa...and we're quarantined- we thought we might as well give you some bonus content! In this episode we talk about inner sloth, keeping the peace, going to 3 and 6 in "stretch and release", and what it looks like to discover your own inner priorities as a 9. We hope you enjoy...

Finally! We interview Scott's wife MARIS about being and ENNEAGRAM NINE! Marisa is a certified Enneagram Consultant (as well as a wife, mom, pastor, writer, and all around highly inspiring bad ass human). This episode is for all you enneagram nines out there and for people that want to know MORE about nines. It's also for those SOCIAL nines (Marisa is a social nine which happens to be the counter...

Is it possible to have a 2 hour conversation about hair? Of course it is! In this episode we reflect on our own hair journeys. What influenced our sense of style and what was okay and not okay. As we talk we hope you think about your own relationship with YOUR hair. its No Small Thing after all! Why do you choose to have the hair you do now? What were your major influences and what motivates you t...

Welcome to our THIRD episode on gender! We think conversations around gender are SUPER honoring to each individual's story. We all have an utterly unique set of circumstances (genetic and social) that make us who we are...gender is no different! We have so much to learn about how people navigate the world by listening to their unique storie and insights We hope you enjoy this episode with Corey! I...

Is it possible to have a 2 hour conversations about emojis!? Of course it is! This week we take a fun and silly detour to deep dive something that impacts our everyday lives. Emojis are here to stay and impact the way we interact with each other every day! They really are no small thing!

David Bazan is a truth teller. Through his music he has found a way to be brutally honest about his feelings and thought regarding evangelical Christianity. Because of this he has gained a loyal following of fans over the years, but its fair to say that he has most likely lost a fair amount of fans as well. Either way- his music does invite people to be curious and brave regarding their beliefs. I...

We are finally BACK with an episode focused on a particular Enneagram number! This week is all about ENNEAGRAM THREES! This week we interview Emily Mandagie who, along with her husband, runs a business that entails a beautiful travel blog and several stunning instagram accounts. They are an inspiration for our podcast and Emily has definitely found a way to harness her amazing 3 abilities to super...

Is it possible to have a two hour conversation about SNACKS? Of course it is! Are we still surprised after all this time that after talking about snacks for two hours we realize there is still so much to talk about? Yes! This week we invite our friend Kiersten to the pod (aka the snack Queen) to talk snack's with us. During the episode we also munched on several delicious snacks which lead to more...