No Small Thing Podcast
No Small Thing
A weekly podcast hosted by Mace Mooney and Scott Gronholz that tries to help listeners live a less certain and more curious life. Life is big and complicated and there truly is "no small thing"; everything is worth talking about. Welcome to the conversation!
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Jan 11, 2026
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136: Small Talk 18.01.2021 1:26:28
Do you like small talk? We really thought we didn't! Until we started thinking about what small talk actually IS. Is small talk merely that awkward superficial "filler" that we experience while passing an acquaintance in the grocery store? Or does the smallness of the talk have more to do with our mindset? Honestly we came away from this convo with more questions than answers, but we can guarantee...
135: Enneagram: #nota4 (with David Gray and John Luckovich) 11.01.2021 2:10:37
Join us this week as we sat down and talked all things Enneagram with David Gray and John Luckovich from Big Hormone Enneagram and enneagramer.com. These two have such wonderful insights into the enneagram, typing, and its symbolic roots. Our conversation was lead by curiosity as we first picked David and John's brains about all things enneagram from essence, personality, ego, growth, mistyping an...
134: Dreams 4 04.01.2021 1:30:01
Our fourth full episode on DREAMS! Welcome to our final (for now) episode on dreams. This we we try to veer away from the kinds of dreams you have in your sleep at night and veer TOWARD a conversation about dreams in a meta sense or in the sense of manifesting dreams and what it means to have visions and goals for your life...THOSE kinds of dreams. We also share our particular dreams for our podca...
133: Dreams 3 28.12.2020 1:32:47
This episode is the second in our latest D R E A M S E R I E S happening with NST where we are deep diving dreams for three weeks. In our first episode we unpacked a bit of psychology around dream theory, delving into some Jungian concepts around dream analysis and symbolism. This week we start out fresh in the morning with interpreting our dreams from the night before...Scott has a really wild,fu...
132: Dreams 2 21.12.2020 1:59:49
We are a podcast that is trying to help people live a less certain and more curious life. Because of this mission we are in a constant search for ideas, methods, and concepts that will help us get more curious. What could be more RIPE for curiosity than DREAMS! Exploring dreams and taking them seriously instantly puts us in a place of disorientation and but also leaves us feeling in control becaus...
131: Top Albums of 2020 18.12.2020 2:16:06
Join us in this bonus listening party episode where we share our personal favorite albums from the year 2020. This is becoming a NST tradition where both Scott and Mace come with their top songs/albums of the year and invite you into a listening party as we reflect on the year through music. We hope this invites you to think about who your top artists and albums were this year!!
130: Enneagram Fours with Zach Griffin 07.12.2020 2:08:04
Our enneagram series continues with our THRID Enneagram FOUR episode. This has been a long time coming...and for this episode we bring you our first ever interview with another ennea four- Zach Griffin! Zach manages an ennea four instagram account called Enneagram4confessions and a podcast with the same name. We highly recommend both! This interview was true NST vibes in that it was just a perfect...
129: Yule 30.11.2020 1:41:49
Have you ever stopped and wondered about some of the more deep and nuanced and maybe even hidden references and imagery of the Christmas season? Advent, for example, is rich practice of waiting and YULE and Winter Solstice are often overlooked in our mostly western context as well (at least from the context of your nst pals). In this episode we interview Matty Lauder about his passion for the YULE...
128: Art Moves Both Ways 23.11.2020 1:52:12
A while back your pal Mace started an instagram account called Art Moves Both Ways to highlight the art (primarily acrylic paintings) that they create in their free time. Recently AMBW has become much more central to Mace and the life of the podcast. Art is No Small Thing and it is a vehicle to explore creativity and curiosity. We thought that it was essential for us to dedicate at least one episo...
127: Coffee 16.11.2020 1:51:37
Coffee seems to be something that unites most of us...its a ritual...a habit..an eye opener..a conversation starter...love it or hate it coffee is a signifiant part of our lives. We thought it deserve at least an episode's worth of curiosity! In this episode we deep dive our coffee preferences...pet peeves, ideal barista experiences, and why we like coffee so much!
126: Hope 09.11.2020 1:43:17
What is hope? What would YOU say hope is? Is it is a feeling? A sentiment? Is it action? Where does the word come from? What does it mean for us to be hopeful right now in the midst of an important election/ covid-19 and all other things 2020. This episode will give you some good thoughts (dare we say HOPEFUL thoughts) to ponder....our HOPE is that you will end this episode with a clearer yet ...n...
125: Enneagram Eights and Queering the Enneagram (with Kevin Garcia and Abi Robbins!) 02.11.2020 2:11:34
Seriously no joke this might be our best enneagram episode we've ever done! This week's guests are two spiritual enneagram leaders/ podcasters/ authors/ coaches and just all around bad ass self aware enneagram 8 wing sevens! This week we welcome Abi Robins and Kevin Garcia! We deep dive enneagram eights, but we also have an enlightening conversation about queering the enneagram and what marginaliz...
124: Ambiance 26.10.2020 1:03:06
Ambiance is extremely important to us and we're surprised we haven't talked about it yet! In this episode we have a curious conversation about moments and experiences that have impacted our personal preferences for good ambiance. We also unpack why creating good ambiance could be important for hosting and curating memorable experiences while also acknowledging that both of us probably take ambianc...
123: TV 19.10.2020 1:55:05
Join us this week as we unpack T E L E V I S I O N! In this conversation we get curious about TV and the role it has played in our lives. We start of exploring both Scott and Mace's TV journey's which really exposes and highlight the huuuuuge difference in TV over just a 15 year time difference. The pod then jumps into the topic of reality TV, Mace loves it, Scott hates it. Reuven joins us for one...
122: Projection Identification 12.10.2020 1:36:27
This week we continue our series on Defense Mechanisms and tackle a very complicated and tricky defense mechanism called Projection Identification. Defense Mechanisms are lies we tell ourselves to avoid discomfort and identifying ways these defenses show up in our lives can help us have healthier and more cooperative relationships...and potentially get us out of mystifying ruts we might find ourse...
121: Enso (with Gregg BelisleChi) 05.10.2020 1:18:26
Are you a music lover? Do you like good conversations about good music with people who are interested in music? Do you like jazz or are you at least interested in knowing more about jazz as an art form and hearing people talk about the creative process? Do you like PODCASTS? This episode is for you! In this episode we talk to our good friend Gregg about his new album that just released for purchas...
120: Enneagram and Sports (with Eli Rall) 28.09.2020 1:50:08
Have you ever thought about how your Enneagram type influences your interaction with sports? Or have you ever thought what Enneagram type each sport is!? Your no small team is here this week to deep dive these more light hearted with questions with some curiosity around the intersection of sports and enneagram. Shout out to our friend Eli who came up with this idea!
119: Queer Theology with Linn Marie Tonstad 21.09.2020 1:32:55
Beloved Arise is a non profit organization that exists to support queer youth of faith. Part of the work we have been involved in is spreading this message of affirming theology to teens desperately need to hear it. Linn Maris Tonstad is professor of systematic theology at Yale Divinity School and author of Queer Theology. In this conversation we take a curious deep dive into affirming theology an...
118: Seasons 14.09.2020 2:00:30
In this week's episode we take some time to reflect on the different meanings and and collective understandings of seasons. We talk about our thoughts and feelings on summer, fall, winter, and spring...and then we have a curious conversation about seasons of life and transitions and what it means to be present to our shifting contexts. We also have a Reuvenation!
117: Childhood Toys 07.09.2020 1:43:05
Let's pause and reflect on child hood toys! Also- let's take some time to actually contemplate and discuss what makes something a toy. Is a tambourine a toy? How about a trampoline? A frisbee? In this episode we get nostalgic and contemplative (and slightly argumentative!) about childhood toys! And we also have a hilarious discussion with my (Scott's) brothers about our childhood toys!
116: Gender 4 (with Mace Mooney) 31.08.2020 1:46:12
A year ago we released an episode where your pal, Mace, described what it meant to identity as gender queer. Since then we have hosted several wonderful and beautiful conversations about what it means to identity as transgender. We believe that there is a time and place for debates and discussion on this topic, but we also believe that hearing people's individual stories are just as important and...
115: Enneagram 7 (with Lillie Dawes) 24.08.2020 1:29:56
We are long overdue for an ENNEAGRAM SEVEN episode! In this episode we interview LILLIE! An enneagram 7 and a TEEN with a lot of insight regarding this her personality and how the enneagram has helped her understand herself more. Whether you're an enneagram seven or just a person trying to understand sevens better this episode is super informative and fun!
114: Björk 17.08.2020 2:05:12
Could we become a podcast exclusively dedicated to talking about Bjork? The answer is yes! Bjork is an absolute icon that is 10,000 years ahead of her time and has produced such dense/ rich/ layered/ beautiful original content that it was impossible...absolutely impossible to fit even 1 1 hundredth of our thoughts into one measly episode! Having said that we hope you enjoy this 2 hour convo of us...
113: Covid-19 (A check-in) 10.08.2020 1:38:53
In this episode we step back and try to check in on how we're are doing with this global pandemic. In many ways No Small Thing has been producing content as if nothing has changed (even though our 100th episode was about enneagram and Covid). We also realize that headlines have a lot to do with political debates/ updates and arguments about mask wearing etc. We thought it might be cathartic to jus...
112: White Supremacy and Defense Mechanisms 03.08.2020 1:53:12
White Supremacy is a toxic yet often stealth like reality that has had incompressible negative consequences for America. Yet White Supremacy often seems to be a taboo subject for... you guessed it- white people. Of course we are curious about why this is so hard for white folks to grapple with...and one approach that we hope is helpful is to think about how defense mechanisms shut down white peopl...
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