No Small Thing

About a year ago Kent Thomas started the Do Better Young Life campaign. The campaign aims to hold Young Life to a higher standard in regards to its treatment of queer youth. We believe that being less certain and more curious is what has the potential to change organizations like Young Life. Until then we are so grateful for people like Kent who creatively and winsomely speak truth to power. This...

This week we have the absolute privilege of sharing what we hope to be many more conversations with our favorite "woo woo vibey-ass bitch"- KEVIN GARCIA. Kevin is a digital pastor who is helping change the way we engage with faith/ Christianity/ Jesus/ The Divine etc. We think they are a prophet. This is a classic no small thing style episode where we hear Kevin's journey and then really vibe out...

One of the basic assumptions of Internal Family Systems (IFS) is that it is the nature of the mind to be subdivided into multiple parts or subpersonalities. These parts develop a complex pattern of interaction similar to how individuals in a family might interact, only internally. Much like a mosaic composed of multiple pieces that come together to create a singular work of art, the goal is to ach...

This week we deep dive emo punk gods- My Chemical Romance with our amazing friend Dante. Get ready for an episode of curious conversation about this mysterious (and underrated?) band and also an MCR listening party and some live covers!

In this episode we celebrate 3 years of doing one of the most fun and fulfilling things we've ever done! We look back at some of our favorite pod moments and reflect on this incredible journey we've been on. Hope you enjoy!

What are VIBES? Vibes seems to be a cool catch all word that we use for almost everything these days. "That's a vibe", "good vibes only", "I'm vibing", "I don't like that person's vibes"...what do we mean when we say we use this term!? What are its origins. Is it ultimately useful or is it so ubiquitous that its become useless!? Join us for this week's curious conversation about vibes!

Object relations is an excellent foundation to start talking about psychological concepts and modalities. This is our first deviation from the enneagram and we're hoping you like stepping into this new dimension with us! The dimension of starting to think about how our initial holding environments impacted our whole personality! Welcome to No Small Thing! lol!

We are huge fans of This Jungian Life! Its a podcast where three Jungian analysts talk about life, dreams, and how we grow! We we think paying attention to dreams is an excellent way to cultivate curiosity and this crew are some of the best in the game in terms of giving people the tools they need to learn from their dreams! We are so excited to share this conversation with you and hope for many m...

Vacation...or rest...or Sabbath...or blank space...etc. Join us this week as we explore the topic of taking a vacation. Both Scott and Mace are on their own breaks currently and thought it would be fun to do an episode unpacking this very thing. While we curiously unpack the concept of vacation, we spend most of our time being nostalgic and reminiscing on our own journey's pausing and exploring th...

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Residing inside of all of us are a multitude of different "selves" that we can attend to if we so choose. In this episode we invite you all to get curious about your different selves- or "the other" or "others" within...

What is TIME? Well- for us- time is obviously No Small Thing. In this episode we set out to share some thoughts about what time is, how we personally relate to time, does it even exist, and why we are all so addicted to thinking about our lives in a way that revolves around TIME...but...honestly what we mostly talk about is the complicated relationship both of us have with being on time. If you li...

Is The Enneagram even REAL!? What does REAL even mean!? We are BACK everybody!...with and enneagram episode! And it might be our last for a good while! After our enneagram blitz and then going on a five week enneagram fast we wondering what the future of our pod and the enneagram will be like. We are currently finding ourselves interested in other topics...which makes sense for a curiosity podcast...

Have you ever started your own small business? We did recently! We really don't have any idea what we're doing, but we're putting one foot in front of the other. This episode is an update for the folks that have been with us for a while! We want to invite you into this next phase of the pod! We are moving forward with a deeper sense of a broad vocation to help people live less certain and more cur...

What does it mean to see yourself in others?; to view the suffering, joy, heartaches, struggles, and overall humanity of the world as your own? Do we bear the image of God as individuals or as one collective? What are the implications of seeing ourselves or God in "the other"? Our dear friend Fredrik stops by the pod to raise these important questions and call us to imagine a world where we are ha...

We started a queer affirming youth group. That's basically all you need to know in terms of what you're getting into with this episode. Oh- also its over 3 hours and 20 minutes because this is the story of how we found each other in the context of youth ministry, got asked to leave because we were affirming, started an affirming youth virtual youth group- and met some of the most profound kind wis...

What is a LEARNING VENTURE? It has something to do with setting an intention to be curious; to see the world as dynamic and full of infinite meaning and beauty..and to see "reality" as something that invites participation, play, dance, wonder, joy, and participation. After our enneagram blitz this was a palate cleanse of sorts. Getting back to our roots and getting on the course of continuing to l...

Welcome to the last episode of the Enneagram Blitz. This conversation is a final wrap up to our series of interviews we did with different Enneagram teachers. We share what the interviews meant to us, including each of our journeys with our types being questioned and our own ways we each engaged curiously with the new challenges/insights we were having about the Enneagram. At the end we share what...

In part D of our "enneagram blitz" we get to talk to one of our all time favorite Enneagram teachers and authors- Suzanne Stabile. The saga of typing correctly continues, but this conversation with "the godmother of the enneagram" brought us into a spacious space where we came back to our roots to a certain extent. Suzanne reminds us of what is important and valuable about enneagram work and also...

The journey of discovering Scott's type continues! In the last episode we ended with Beatrice Chestnut thinking Scott is a 5 (which of course we've all thought for going on 4 years now), but a conversation with Ben Campbell (a self identified wizard and enneagram 6) gets us leaning in the direction of 6. This part three of our Enneagram Blitz where we are trying to get to the bottom of how people...

Welcome to the second episode of the enneagram blitz!- a series of five enneagram themed episodes where we really try to get curious about typing and the different approaches some the most significant enneagram teachers we know of take in terms of typing. In this episode we interview BEATRICE CHESTNUT- Author of The Complete Enneagram and host of Enneagram 2.0 (one of our favorite Enneagram podcas...

Welcome to the Enneagram Blitz! Over the next five episodes join Scott and Mace as they curiously explore the Enneagram through a series of interviews with different Enneagram teachers offering unique perspectives and approaches to this wisdom symbol. To kick of this venture NST interviewed the folks from Big Hormone Enneagram, a podcast both Scott and Mace have found refreshing in their brash and...

Zoom is the new telephone! And 2020 will probably be the year we remember that we collectively as a society learned to communicate digitally as a lifestyle. We love it and we hate it. We're grateful and in some ways already nostalgic. We thought it would be cathartic to spend some time processing this strange year and this new technology with your nst pals!

How do we make space for grief? If you are in any way curious about that question this episode is for you. Jesse Brune-Horan is a minister and wellness coach that helps people learn to walk with grief. This is a topic that comes from a deep place of personal grief for Jesse and he was so generous to share his story and insights with us. This episode will help you learn to walk with grief in ways t...

If there is one music group that we had to choose to represent what we are trying to do here at No Small Thing it would be The Books. The Books are wonderfully quirky and iconoclastic musical duo based in New York. They started making music together in 1999 and their music usually includes obscure samples of sounds and speech combined with a variety of musical styles. Not only do we thoroughly the...