No Small Thing

Fresh off of getting some shout outs from Moses himself on his instagram we are BACK with a deep dive on two very different tracks: Gagarin and Jill/ Jack. Gagarin is a spacey moody grandiose meditation on wanting to live for something beyond oneself probably inspired by the first human to go into space: Yuri Gagarin. Jill/ Jack is a playful meditation on gender and, among other things, how we hav...

Here we go to into the Grae! This week we take a look at two epic songs that are also seemingly blended together. What does it mean to be a Conveyor? Is is a vocation that sets one up to be a messenger to the masses or is it the sense that we are all zombies on a conveyor belt? Is it both or something in between? What do we do with the boxes and labels that we put ourselves and others in! Moses an...

Our deep dive of Moses Sumney's album Grae continues to two VERY contrasting songs this week- In Bloom and Virile. In Bloom is a slow etherial song full of heartache and longing focusing on something that seems like unrequited love while Virile is a charged up anthem that protests and mocks toxic masculinity. We had a ton of fun wondering together about the themes of these two tracks and the thoug...

Our first official deep dive into the music of Moses Sumney's epic double album officially begins! These week we take a look at the first two opening tracks of Grae: Insula and Cut Me!

Moses Sumney is a musician who creates music and art that invites deep exploration and curiosity. As a podcast dedicated to curiosity we decided to get curious about a single album for 3 months and we chose Grae by Moses Sumney. In this episode we explain our intentions for this journey and provide a short introduction to Moses and his music. We also sample a few of his songs from his debut album-...

This week we are joined by Brian Pendergast who is a licensed therapist with training in the psychoanalytic tradition. Brian will soon be releasing a book on multiplicity and we had to take the opportunity to chat with him about his insights. The idea that multiple selves reside inside us that invite curiosity and attention is, of course, something that has become increasingly captivating to us. I...

Do you ever stop and notice all the fascinating variety in the way that people cross the street!? Does it ever make you laugh or angry or confused? How do YOU cross the street? Are you nervous? Apologetic? Clueless? The way people cross the crosswalk needs to be discussed! We need to get to the bottom of what the heck is going on with people's crosswalk personas and habits! Luckily you have some p...

Free association is the expression of the content of consciousness without censorship as an aid in gaining access to unconscious processes. The technique is used in psychoanalysis which was originally devised by Sigmund Freud. What a fantastic tool for curiosity, right!? It is said that our unconscious is not buried inside our mind somewhere, but rather on the surface of our every day speech. We c...

Today's episode is an extra light and playful episode where we discuss our opinions on lunch! WHEN does lunch happen and what makes the best type of lunch in terms of location/ company/ and food. Can lunch happen before noon? Is a soda a "drink snack" (Mace says yes Scott says no!)...and can you have breakfast for lunch? All these things will be discussed, but very few answers will be given!

In our third friendship episode we continue to try and ask significant questions about what friendship is and what makes a good friend! We read some fairly interesting quotes/ engage with listener comments/ and try to describe our own friendship!

Our series on defense mechanisms continues! On our sixth installment we decide to revisit one of the major core defense mechanisms: projection! Not only is projection an extremely prominent part of our everyday lives (meaning it impacts our relationships more than we probably realize!) we have also learned so much more about projection since we first started talking about it over three years ago!...

We are a curiosity podcast and the notion of "slippery slope" comes up a lot during our episodes as a phrase/ concept/ vibe/ FALLACY that inhibit curiosity and intellectual exploration. In this episode we playfully unpack our experience with this ubiquitous phrase and we also engage with our amazing treasure trove of listener comments! Listeners really came through with some amazing insights! Curi...

Our whole podcast PROJECT is about how to help people be less certain and more curious. It starts with US. We are like mad scientists that test the experiments out on ourselves. We don't just want to advocate for and model curiosity- we want to come up with "hacks" that help us enter into curiosity in ways that that broaden our perspective and imagination. Dreams continue to captivate us as a meth...

Synchronicity: the simultaneous occurrence of events which appear significantly related but have no discernible causal connection. (that's the dictionary definition of synchronicity, but of course there is more to it than that!). In this episode we deep dive the origins and multiple meanings of synchronicity and what it brings up for us. We get curious about if it's "real" or just a fun concept......

166: Venting by No Small Thing Podcast

Our series on psychological concepts (instead of the enneagram for now!) continues with scapegoating!

This episode is basically us just going all in on curiosity and what it means to us. Barefoot to Emmaus is a podcast hosted by our dear friends- Char and Byron. It has big No Small Thing vibes in that it is long meandering conversations (typically about theology and faith) with two pals who like to get curious. This episode was actually an interview that we did with Byron and Char for their podcas...

Robyn Henderson-Espinoza, PhD is a Trans Latinx Scholar, Politicized Theologian, and Public Ethicist. They have a book coming out called Body Becoming which offers us a way of understanding the body beyond constructions-- political or medical-industrial-complex defined--toward cultivating the body as important in our endeavors to build a more inclusive vision for democracy. We talk about what it m...

162: Wonder, Fully Made LIVE by No Small Thing Podcast

We are throwing it back to an oldie but goodie, our episode on PLAY!! This is one of our favorite episodes from the archives where we unpack the wonders and discovery found in playing...and how its is NOT just for children...and invites us to be less certain MORE CURIOUS!

When was the last time you really stopped and wondered about breakfast? Isn't it fun to think that we can all set aside some time to really have these conversations!? In this episode we really get into some opinion and hot takes on why breakfast is so controversial! We talk about our own breakfast opinions and really deep dive all of the listener comments we got this week (we got a lot!).

George Weinberg describes Transference this was- it "may be seen as the patient's putting on a green lens on a light and shining it on the therapist. The therapist looks green to them, and that is that. No matter what color clothing the therapist puts on, they will continue to look green to the patient. To resolve a transference, the therapist must, by this analogy, help the patient appreciate tha...

Ashon Crawley is one of our absolute most favorite thinkers, writers, communicators, artists...all of that...Ashon graciously agreed to join us for our second annual "queer youth of faith day". This was an online festival designed to celebrate and empower queer youth of faith from all over the world. Ashon wrote a profoundly vulnerable and insightful piece for NPR about Lil Nas X's most recent sin...

After three weeks of interview we are BACK with a curious and playful conversation about EMBARRASSMENT. What is it? How does it feel? How is embarrassment different from awkwardness or shame or guilt or fear? We delve into these questions and of course share some embarrassing stories of our own!

Rev. Ashley DeTar Birt (aka presbiqueerian aka Dr. Bailey) is one of our new co-laborers at Beloved Arise. This is a conversation about Ashley's journey of becoming the second ordained black queer woman in the Presbyterian Church U.S.A and also about approaching Christianity with curiosity and wonder and joy and humor and creativity. Can ordained clergy preach in drag!? Absolutely! We are so excit...