No Small Thing

Welcome to our second conversation on friendship! This week we deep dive friendships of pop-culture...what we think makes for a good friendship...and what we ultimately want out of our own personal friendships! We hope this gets you thinking about your own philosophy of friendship and maybe even enjoying your current friendships a bit more. They are no small thing after all.

This week is all about the concept of PLAY! We think learning to be able to play is a foundational skill in learning how to be more curious. Play is a vital quality to cultivate in the lives of children and it is also essential to maintaining as an adult. Play often happens when we get lost in the flow of something...that can include activities like art and sports, but psychoanalysis also is a for...

Christena Cleveland is helping us re-imagine God in a way that prioritizes the marginalized and helps us see God through diversity. Her perspective is a crucial element in helping people who seek to pursue and enact a robust understanding of justice live that out in an effective way. She is helping us discover God in ways that are healing and necessarily transformative.

This week is a pretty light hearted discussion on The Enneagram and birthdays! How does each type engage with their birthday and how do we experience those types!? In this episode we really tried so hard no to be super serious...but we also want to honor the types and be serious! Its complicated. We hope you enjoy this episode and maybe get a few laughs!

Listening may be one of the most unpracticed yet most needed skill in the modern world. Most people live in with an extreme listening deficit. As a podcast we continue to seek out conversations that explore how to be more curious and listening seems almost synonymous. In this episode we talk about what makes a good listener and a bad listener, we engage with listener comments, and we discuss what...

This is the official recording of our LIVE SHOW! We were so honored to host a No Small Thing episode at 415 Westlake in Seattle! We focused on Defense Mechanisms..and we specifically focused on Repression and Denial(these are the things we think are fun to talk about!). This was a fantastic opportunity for us to host a live physical version of what we have been doing every week for over a year and...

Here it is! Our top 5 albums OF THE DECADE. Our lists our different (no overlaps!) and we have a lively and curious discussion about our picks! Hopefully this gets you in touch with your own favorite albums and gets you into a nice reflective nostalgic mood!

The instinctual variants of the enneagram may be even more important than knowing your number...yet the variants are often overlooked in a lot of the podcast content out there. The more we talk about the enneagram the more intrigued we are by the variants. This is an episode dedicated to unpacking why this is so important to understand. Its everything we love about the enneagram! It helps us under...

Matthias Roberts is a pioneer in sparking discussions around the intersection of queerness and Christianity. As the host of the weekly podcast, Queerology, Matthias shines a spotlight on the stories of queer Christians. His book, Beyond Shame, releases in January. It is a profound book about how to develop a sexual ethic on your own terms. This interview is a rare opportunity to hear Matthias's st...

Drew Ragan is a strength coach who owns and runs his own gym called Soul Centered Strength which seeks to empower clients to become their most embodied, strong, and centered selves. In this episode we talk about Drew's journey of trauma and self-discovery that helped him become a trainer who tries to care for the whole person. We also get a bunch of good fun health and wellness tips from Drew! We...

Maturity- what definitions or descriptions come to mind when you think of this word? If you're like us its more complicated than we think. In this episode of No Small Thing we try to pull apart the meaning of maturity and look at if from different lenses. Part of this is pretty funny (just looking at a Quora article) and part of it should be fairly stimulating as we, together, try to come up with...

What is a Guru? This is a complicated topic depending on how you approach it. Is a Guru a religious or spiritual teacher? Yes. Is a Guru a projection of a hope for someone who holds the answers to the universe? Also yes. Do we, as humans, tend to make Gurus of celebrities, religious leaders, and historical figures in order to avoid looking internally at our own capacity to understand and embrace w...

In this episode we attempt to share some "HOT TAKES" on The Enneagram. We don't really know what hot takes are, but we're pretty sure what we ended up sharing wouldn't qualify as hot takes by most people's standards. What we end up doing is sharing a lot of curious thoughts about The Enneagram. It was nice to take a step back from taking an in depth look at each number and to check in on why we co...

Jesus is King is indeed a controversial album (as all Kanye albums are!) and we are here for the deep dive! We try to approach this album with curiosity while remaining somewhat critical! Both of us take theology and spirituality very seriously so we have a lot of opinions about Kanye's new direction. Our opinions hopefully spark some true curiosity. Know that we are trying to be curious right alo...

What is "work"? Why do we have jobs? What is this system that we all participate in? On this week's episode we have a light hearted and curious conversation about these paradigms that have a huge influence on our daily life. We share our own journey's of work and engage with some more deep and philisophical questions about what it means to step into who are made to be.

This week we had the amazing opportunity to have an in depth conversation with Padraig O Tuama. Padraig is a poet and theologian who's work centers around themes of language, power, conflict, and religion. In this conversation Padraig specifically talks about his own experience growing up gay in the catholic church, his eventual coming out, and his profound and delicate work with as an advocate fo...

This week Scott interviews one of his all time favorite philosophers and teachers- Peter Rollins. They talk about something called PARAPRAXIS- the (seemingly) small things that tell us there is something wrong.

This week is an enneagram week and we are talking about TWOS. We invite our amazing two guest from last year (Katie Thomas) BACK on the podcast to check in and hear about what she has learned about herself since our last recording. We also get to talk to Sydney (Macie's partner) who happens to be a TWO. During this episode we try to go a little deeper into the variants and wings and we help Katie...

Gender is most certainly no small thing. This week we begin what is sure to be a long journey with this topic. We start by deep diving Macie's decision to come out as gender queer. We hope this is a helpful for anyone struggling with identity or gender or just coming out in general. And we also hope you enjoy getting to know Macie more!

Certainty is often a roadblock to curiosity and creativity. Of course- the No Small Thing squad is all about trying to help you be more curious. In this episode we finally try to address why we think its so important to try to be a little less certain in our daily lives. This is the beginning of a much larger conversation on the topic of certainty, but we hope its a helpful launch point!

It turns out we really enjoy talking about Defense Mechanisms! This is our fourth installment on this series. Defense Mechanisms are LIES WE TELL OURSELVES TO AVOID PAIN. We are on a mission to try and understand our Defense Mechanisms and help you understand yours as well. Let's get curious about Idealization and Displacement!

This week we are back with our third installment of a Steven Universe episode, this time deep diving and discussing Steven Universe THE MOVIE. We are mega-fans of this show...and super fans of this movie! Rebecca Sugar and team have done it again giving us a heart-warming, deep, introspective, thoughtful story that every audience could enjoy. We begin this week by sharing our initial thoughts on t...

We are BACK with another ENNEAGRAM ONE episode. This is our second enneagram episode since we started recording enneagram episodes over a year ago. For this conversation we invite our good friend Matthew back to check in about being an enneagram one and we talk to our friend Hannah as well. Interesting thing about Hannah is that she was on our 8 episode, but discovered that she mistyped so she joi...

In this episode Scott interviews his friend Tony Hale. Tony is known for playing endearing characters like Buster Bluth from Arrested Development and Gary from Veep, but he is also an extremely fun/ interesting/ complicated 3 dimensional HUMAN (Enneagram 2!) that we hope you get to know a bit more through this interview. Pay special attention to Tony's appreciation for curiosity and doubt in the C...

We are back with out third installment Age and Wisdom. It's a large underlying value of NST's to see the inherent wisdom and insight in children/youth/those who are younger than us so its always fun when we come to this topic where we get to deep dive why this means so much to us. This episode starts with an actual interview with youths! For the first ten-ish minutes enjoy Scott interviewing a gro...