CBE International
Mutuality Matters
The Mutuality Matters podcast is now part of CBE International’s online library of free resources! New hosts join the CBE Mutuality Matters team to offer weekly conversations with leaders, pastors, authors, scholars, activists, and humanitarians on women, men, equality, and the Bible. CBE International (Christians for Biblical Equality) advances the gospel by equipping women and men of all cultures, races, and classes to lead and serve as equals. Founded in 1989, CBE has supporters and ministry partners in over 100 denominations and 65 countries, and offers annual conferences, adult and youth...
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Apr 24, 2026
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Episodes
Holiness, Women, and the Church with Carla Sunberg 24.04.2026 45:52
Dr. Sunberg highlighted the overarching biblical (prescriptive and descriptive) texts supporting women’s shared leadership such as: Genesis 1:26–30 , and Galatians 3:28 , and Romans 16:1–16 . These texts are the “rings that rule overall rings” to use a JRR Tolkien image. Even more, throughout Scripture we see, the power of the Holy Spirit empowering, guiding, encouraging women leaders. Paul’s Gosp...
From Genesis to Junia: An Honest Conversation About Women in Church Leadership with Dr. Preston Sprinkle 18.03.2026 44:44
On this episode of Mutuality Matters, Dr. Mimi Haddad meets with Dr. Preston Sprinkle to discuss his new book, "From Genesis to Junia: An Honest Search for What the Bible Really Says about Women in Leadership." A deeply committed Christian, husband, and father, Preston Sprinkle said his career has focused on serving the church as a scholar. As such, he approaches questions concerning faith and lif...
After the Harm: Wrestling Evil and Reclaiming Women’s Voices in Scripture with Rev. Dr. Ingrid Faro (Women and Words) 27.02.2026 58:24
On this episode of Mutuality Matters: Women and Words, Host Dr. Mimi Haddad interviewed Rev. Dr. Ingrid Faro. Ingrid described her challenging childhood and young married life as one of abuse, both psychologically and physically. Her early church experience was equally difficult, as women were to be seen but not heard. In her family of origins, she felt invisible and unimportant. She was terrified...
Does Paul Contradict Himself? A Conversation with Rev. Dr. Michael F. Bird (Women and Words) 16.01.2026 36:11
In this podcast, Rev. Dr. Michael F. Bird explores the crucial sociological context that often influences human interpretation of Scripture along with the complexities involved in reading passages from Paul who is considered both the ally of both egalitarians and complementarians. Spending significant time on Paul’s reference to Phoebe ( Romans 16:1–2) as deacon in the church of Cenchrea. Too of...
Women in the Gospel of Luke with Dr. Joel B. Green: Part 2 (Women and Words) 20.11.2025 38:26
In this episode of Mutuality Matters, host Dr. Mimi Haddad continues her interview with guest Dr. Joel B. Green, an expert on the Gospel of Luke, about the portrayal of women in Luke's writings. Together they explore how these depictions challenge traditional gender roles and the importance of translation choices in understanding biblical messages about authority and equality. Dr. Green highlights...
(Women and Words) Inside the Bible Translation Room with Dr. Joel B. Green: Part 1 31.10.2025 35:12
In this episode of Mutuality Matters, hosted by CBE International, Dr. Joel B. Green joins the conversation to discuss the importance of Bible translation and interpretation, emphasizing the inclusion of women in the process. Dr. Green, a seasoned Bible scholar and faculty administrator, shares his extensive career and insights on the subject. He underscores the necessity of diverse perspectives i...
(Women and Words) Understanding "Wives Submit" and the Household Codes in 1 Peter 3:1–7 with Dr. Jeannine Brown 15.08.2025 1:08:43
In this episode of the Mutuality Matters podcast from CBE International, hosts Mimi and Charel speak with Dr. Jeannine Brown who discusses the pressing need to interpret the Biblical text of 1 Peter 3:1–7 within its first-century Greco-Roman context. Dr. Brown emphasizes the importance of understanding the cultural and historical background behind the passages on submission, particularly 1 Peter 3...
(Women and Words) The Intersection of Culture and Bible Translation with Mayra Ugalde: Part 5 01.08.2025 28:32
In episode of Mutuality Matters, hosted by Mimi Haddad and produced by CBE International, guest Mayra Ugalde addresses the importance of women's leadership and service in the church, as guided by biblical teachings. She emphasizes the necessity of obedience to Jesus over cultural obstacles and discusses the significance of both Old and New Testament scriptures in supporting women’s roles in minist...
(Women in Scripture and Mission) The East African Revival Moment with Bishop Emily Onyango 17.07.2025 41:31
In this episode, Kim talks to Rt. Rev. Dr. Emily Onyango about the East Africa Revival Movement that began in 1927 and is still reverberating through East Africa today. Begun by two people praying for true faith in the Anglican church, the movement grew among laypeople to denominations across East Africa, challenging patriarchy, tribalism, and racism. Because one priest oversaw six or seven church...
(Women and Words) The Intersection of Culture and Bible Translation with Mayra Ugalde: Part 4 13.06.2025 49:22
This episode of Mutuality Matters, hosted by CBE International, interviews Mayra Ugalde who delves into the significant role women played in Paul's ministry and offers insights into commonly misunderstood biblical passages used to limit women's roles in church and society. The discussion emphasizes the importance of understanding the cultural context of scripture, the equality in Christ beyond gen...
(Women in Scripture and History) The Women of Exodus with Dr. Carmen Joy Imes 09.05.2025 43:35
In this episode, Kim talks to Dr. Carmen Joy Imes about the women of Exodus. Dr. Imes brings her deep knowledge of Exodus to the average Christian audience, explaining how the structure and literary parallels of Exodus to show how the women are the rescuers of Moses, who then rescues the Hebrews. She provides the details of the midwives’ spiritual work of saving lives. She demonstrates how Pharaoh...
(Women and Words) Which Bible Translation Is Best in Latin America? with Mayra Ugalde: Part 3 02.05.2025 37:04
In this episode of Mutuality Matters, hosted by CBE International, the focus is on the significance of Bible translation and its impact on women's lives worldwide, especially in Latin America. Special guest Maya Ugalde, honorary director of the Bible Society of Costa Rica, shares her extensive experience in Bible publishing and distribution. The discussion covers the importance of diverse translat...
(Women in Scripture and History) Who was Mary Magdalene really? with Rev. Dr. Jennifer Powell McNutt 17.04.2025 37:52
In this episode, Kim talks to Rev Dr. Jennifer Powell McNutt about Mary Magdalene. She discusses the Biblical witness of Mary Magdalene, and what happened historically to Mary so that she came to be understood as a prostitute. She also discusses the meaning of Apostle and why the Eastern and Western churches remember Mary Magdalene as an apostle to the apostles. Bio Rev. Dr. Jennifer Powell M...
(Women and Words) The Intersection of Culture and Bible Translation with Mayra Ugalde: Part 2 04.04.2025 37:28
This episode of the Mutuality Matters podcast, hosted by CBE International, features an in-depth discussion with Mayra Ugalde, the Honorary Director of the Bible Society of Costa Rica. Mayra shares her perspective on growing up in a Latin family with traditional gender roles and delves into the complexities of Bible translation. She emphasizes the importance of diverse translation teams to avoid b...
(Home, Church, and World) Family and Mutuality with Rev. Dr. Emily McGowin 14.03.2025 35:11
In this episode, we’re joined by Rev. Dr. Emily McGowin, professor of theology at Wheaton College and author of the new book Households of Faith, to discuss the theology of family. Guest Bio The Rev. Dr. Emily McGowin is associate professor of theology at Wheaton College . She is also a priest and canon theologian in the Anglican diocese of Churches for the Sake of Others (C4SO). Her latest bo...
(Women and Words) From Oppression to Empowerment: Women in Scripture with Mayra Ugalde: Part 1 07.03.2025 53:25
00:00 Introduction to Mutuality Matters 00:02 Cultural Background and Personal Story 01:33 Guest Introduction: Mayra Ugalde 03:24 Mayra's Experience with the Bible 07:22 Impact of the Bible on Women's Lives 13:41 Challenges and Misinterpretations 16:40 Mayra's Work and Contributions 21:38 Jesus's View of Women 24:02 Translation vs. Interpretation 43:49 God's Maternal Love 52:11 Conclusio...
(Side by Side) Together in All Things with Kelsey and Dane Schuett 21.02.2025 46:03
Married couple Kelsey and Dane Schuett are together…a lot. Not only do they serve on the same church staff team, but they also serve alongside one another in mission with InterVarsity Christian Fellowship. Most importantly, they are co-parenting their young son Leo. In this episode, hosts Rob and Layla are joined by Dane and Kelsey who invite listeners into their theological journeys, the joys and...
(Home, Church, and World) Mutuality and Masculinity with Zachary Wagner: Part 2 14.02.2025 26:30
This episode is a part of a segment of the Mutuality Matters podcast, hosted by Tara and Todd Korpi. In this segment we discuss headship theology––dynamics of power, authority, and gender, and how they function in Christian homes, the local church and society. In this special two-part interview, we’re joined by Zachary C. Wagner, director of programs for the Center for Pastor Theologians and autho...
(Women and Words) Bible Passages that Support Women’s Leadership with Rev. Dr. Aída Besançon Spencer 07.02.2025 40:47
In the second episode, Dr. Mimi Haddad meets with Rev. Dr. Aída Besançon Spencer to explore key ways Scripture goes against the grain of culture. While some scholars uphold Bible cultural as the moral standard, Aída encouraged readers to begin in the New Testament. For example, in the story of Martha and Mary ( Luke 10:38-42 ), Martha was anxious that Mary would help her serve the disciples a meal...
(Women in Scripture and History) Pandita Ramabai, a Bible Translator and Social Activist with Dr. Boaz Johnson 24.01.2025 23:14
In this episode, Kim talks to Dr. Boaz Johnson about the Indian scholar and activist Pandita Ramabai. Through this interview we hear both about Dr. Johnson’s own background growing up in India and how the writings of Pandita Ramabai influenced his own faith. As the interview unfolds, we follow the progression of Ramabai’s own life from being an orphaned Hindu whose father secretly taught her the H...
Mutuality and Masculinity with Zachary Wagner: Part 1 (Home, Church, and World) 17.01.2025 30:42
This episode is a part of a new segment of the Mutuality Matters podcast, hosted by Tara and Todd Korpi. In this segment we discuss headship theology––dynamics of power, authority, and gender, and how they function in Christian homes, the local church and society. In this special two-part interview, we’re joined by Zachary C. Wagner, director of programs for the Center for Pastor Theologians and a...
(Women and Words) Comparing Bible Translations with Rev. Dr. Aída Besançon Spencer 10.01.2025 37:11
In the first episode, host Dr. Mimi Haddad meets with Rev. Dr. Aída Besançon Spencer to discuss Bible translation. Aída considers the different goals of translation teams from translations focused on a word for word translation; to meaning for meaning; to thought for thought and those that are a paraphrase. Each translation team from the NRSV , to the NIV , KJV and the ESV elevate their priorities...
Women, Honor, and Head Coverings with Dr. Cynthia Long Westfall (Women in Scripture and History) 13.12.2024 40:24
In this episode, Kim talks to Dr. Cynthia Long Westfall. Dr. Westfall shares her background, providing context that helps explain her interest in the New Testament and Paul. Her mentors, service, analytical mind and questions led her into digging into the New Testament and Paul, and women’s sexuality. She provides excellent context and interpretations of Paul’s difficult passages. She specifically...
(Home, Church, and World) The Five Myths of Purity Culture with Dr. Camden Morgante 06.12.2024 31:35
In this episode of Mutuality Matters, hosts Todd and Tara Korpi sit down with Dr. Camden Morgante to discuss her new book, Recovering from Purity Culture. The conversation explores the impact of purity culture on both men and women, the myths propagated by purity teachings, and practical steps for healing and recovery. Dr. Morgante shares her personal journey and professional insights as a psychol...
Bible Translation vs. Interpretation: Where Bible Translators Go Wrong with Hélène Dallaire (Women and Words) 25.11.2024 33:34
In this episode of Mutuality Matters, Dr. Mimi Haddad and Dr. Hélène Dallaire engage in a rich discussion on women's roles in biblical scholarship, the challenges faced in male-dominated fields, the impact of flawed Bible translations on women, and the crucial need for translating Scripture accurately to empower women. They explore stories of women overcoming barriers, the significance of mentorin...
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