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The Center for a Stateless Society (C4SS.org) is an anarchist think-tank and media center. Its mission is to explain and defend the idea of vibrant social cooperation without aggression, oppression, or centralized authority. In particular, it seeks to enlarge public understanding and transform public perceptions of anarchism, while reshaping academic and movement debate, through the production and distribution of market anarchist media content, both scholarly and popular. It is also the home of Mutual Exchange Radio, a new podcast on anarchist thought, hosted by Zachary Woodman. The show bring...
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May 16, 2026
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Jason Lee Byas on Justice Beyond the State 16.05.2026 1:54:31
The guest today is Jason Lee Byas. Byas is currently a Junior Faculty Fellow at the Georgetown Institute for the Study of Markets & Ethics, and starting this fall will be Assistant Professor of Philosophy & Political Economy at Tulane University, with a coappointment at the Murphy Institute. His research focuses on criminal punishment, reparations, and other forms of responding to wrongdoing, alon...
Aaron Ross Powell on Libertarianism and Buddhism 27.03.2026 56:00
Joining me today is Aaron Ross Powell. Aaron is currently the director of Liberal Projects at the Institute for Humane Studies where he is the chief editor of Liberalism.org and host of the Liberalism.org podcast as well as Reimagining Liberty . I wanted to have Aaron on today to discuss two seemingly disparate intellectual interests of his: Buddhism and libertarianism. To many, these may seem lik...
Kevin Carson on the Methodenstreit 26.02.2026 1:27:44
Welcome to Mutual Exchange Radio, a project of the Center for a Stateless Society. I am your host, Zachary Woodman. Today's guest—for the third time on MER—is Kevin Carson. Kevin probably needs no introduction, but he is a senior fellow of the Center for a Stateless Society (c4ss.org) and holds the Center's Karl Hess Chair in Social Theory. He is an anarchist without adjectives, heavily influenced...
Matthew McManus on Liberal Socialism 22.09.2025 2:17:58
Today my guest is Matthew McManus. Matt McManus is an incoming assistant professor of political theory at Spellman College. He is the author of The Political Right and Equality as well as The Political Theory of Liberal Socialism , which we are discussing today. McManus sees himself as engaging in a project of retrieval of a forgotten tradition of thought within the liberal tradition which advocat...
MER Roundtable: Immigration Under Fascism 15.04.2025 59:01
Zachary Woodman , Alex McHugh , and Nathan Goodman join Cory Massimino for a panel on Trump's authoritarian actions on immigration, the history of immigration control and regulation, and what you can do to resist the administration's authoritarian xenophobia. Show notes and Sources: Zachary Woodman's Segment on the Trump Administration's Actions on Immigration So Far Trump's Executive Order on t...
Mutual Exchange Radio: Christopher Coyne and Abigail Hall on 'How to Run Wars' 24.06.2024 1:46:49
This episode is hosted by C4SS's Elinor Ostrom Chair in the Study of Self Governance, Nathan Goodman. Nathan is joined by Christopher Coyne and Abigail Hall for a deep dive into the authors' new book, How to Run Wars, A Confidential Playbook for the National Security Elite , available from June 18th on Amazon, or through the Independent Institute. E-book versions are available for Kindle, Apple iB...
John Cavanaugh on Data Privacy & The Digital Divide 30.05.2024 1:14:43
This episode of MER features Alex McHugh interviewing John Cavanaugh of the digital-privacy organization, The Plunk Foundation. The Plunk Foundation promotes digital data privacy through education, advocacy, and policy recommendations, and by developing privacy tools and tech. Our conversation ranges from the deeper discussion on consent and privacy as related to self-ownership, to the more practi...
Mikayla Novak & Akiva Malamet on Gender as a Discovery Process 15.03.2024 1:50:22
This episode brings Austrian economics into the gender identity discussion. We get into a lot of messy and fascinating questions about gender, identity, and social structures. Read the paper here : https://cosmosandtaxis.files.wordpress.com/2023/10/malamet_novak_ct_vol11_iss11_12_epub.pdf Mikayla Novak is senior fellow with the F. A. Hayek Program for Advanced Study in Philosophy, Politics and E...
Jason Lee Byas about Public Choice Theory, Reparations (for slavery and other injustices), and War 04.12.2023 1:29:05
Cory Massimino chats with Jason Lee Byas about public choice theory, reparations (for slavery and other injustices), and war. Jason Lee Byas is a fellow at the Center for a Stateless Society and a PhD student in Philosophy at the University of Michigan. His academic work focuses on punishment (and its alternatives), rights theory, and justice beyond the state.
Dennis Danvers on Writing, Sci-Fi, and the Weirdness of Time 29.07.2023 1:08:28
Alex McHugh interviews sci-fi author Dennis Danvers on anarchist ideas in fiction, his books The Watch and Leaving the Dead, and the life of a writer. http://dennisdanvers.com/ Mr. Danvers has written a variety of well-received sci-fi novels, including Circuit of Heaven , Time and Time Again , and End of Days , as well as the Locus and Bram Stoker nominee Wilderness . His short fiction has appear...
scott crow on Music, Media, and Community Defense 04.05.2023 1:16:58
A wide-ranging interview with acclaimed anarchist activist and musician, scott crow ( https://www.scottcrow.org/ ). Alex McHugh hosts, with the first half focusing on scott's music and media project, eMERGENCY heARTS, and the latter on his previous work on theories of liberatory community armed self-defense. * Content note: scott and I talk about the murder of Garrett Foster in the second half of...
Tux Pacific on Cryptocurrency and Anarchism 30.03.2023 58:19
In this episode of Mutual Exchange Radio, Tux discusses their unique take on cryptocurrency, the connection between markets and anarchism, and being anti-capitalist in a capitalist world. Tux Pacific (they/she) is a cryptographer, anarchist, and the founder of Entropy, a decentralized custodian for crypto. Their crypto-inclusive perspective has been shaped by their non-traditional background as a...
Ash P. Morgans on Egoism, Anarchism, & Religion 30.12.2022 1:34:44
In our final episode for the season, Ash P. Morgans talks to host Alex McHugh about egoism, anarchism, and religion. This conversation was an excellent cap-off to our Mutual Exchange symposium on egoism and anarchism and continues some of the discussions that came up throughout the symposium. Particularly, we explore the intersections of ethics, morality, anarchism, and religion from the egoist or...
Elizabeth Nolan Brown on Feminism and Libertarianism 11.09.2022 50:17
Elizabeth Nolan Brown is a senior editor at Reason magazine, a co-founder of Feminists for Liberty, and a journalism lecturer at the University of Cincinnati. In this episode of Mutual Exchange Radio, Elizabeth discusses abortion, sex work, moral panics, conspiracies, feminism, libertarianism, and more.
Eric Fleischmann on Laurance Labadie & Historical Materialism 01.08.2022 1:08:03
This month on Mutual Exchange Radio, we are joined by Eric Fleischmann, leading an informative and inspiring conversation about their comprehensive Laurance Labadie archival project, Labadie's special relevance for the market anarchist tradition, their study on Historical Materialism and more. Eric Fleischmann (he/they) is an anarchist indebted to communistic and continental thought but engaged pr...
Logan Marie Glitterbomb on Agorism, Manifold Coloured Markets, Mardi Gras, and Gun Control 30.06.2022 1:58:26
This month, we are joined by Logan Marie Glitterbomb, leading an awesome conversation about the fundamentals of Agorism, as well as its lesser known forms and environmentalist potential. We're also talking about Mardi Gras, Logan's legal incident, gun control and more. A Catholic anarchist-without-adjectives, Logan Marie discovered anarchism through the punk scene in high school and went on to joi...
Cathy Reisenwitz on Sex, Power, and Feminism 27.05.2022 47:28
Cathy Reisenwitz joins Mutual Exchange Radio to discuss feminism, bodily autonomy, BDSM, power, and all things Sex and the State. Cathy is a writer with bylines in The Week, Newsweek, Forbes, the Daily Beast, VICE Motherboard, Reason magazine, Talking Points Memo, Ravishly, Kink and Code and other publications. She is the Head of Content at a tech startup and VP of Comms for San Francisco Sex-Pos...
Abigail Devereaux on Complexity Economics 04.05.2022 1:07:56
Abigail joins Mutual Exchange Radio to discuss the connections between complexity economics, systems theory, emergent order, science fiction, and more. Dr. Abigail Devereaux is a Research Fellow at the Institute for the Study of Economic Growth and Assistant Professor of Economics at Wichita State University. She's also affiliated with the Independent Institute, the American Institute of Economic...
Special Cast: Inside Operation Solidarity 14.03.2022 1:05:02
Host Alex McHugh interviews one of the founders of the radical humanitarian project Operation Solidarity, which is helping to organize anarchist resistance to the invasion as well as humanitarian support networks. If you're able to support this project with funding or material aid, please click through the linktree below. Support Operation Solidarity: https://linktr.ee/operation.solidarity "War an...
Special Cast: Inside the Russian Resistance 10.03.2022 43:46
MER host Alex McHugh interviews C4SS Russian translator Citizen Ilya on the Russian invasion of Ukraine, anarchist resistance to war, and what things look like on the ground in Russia. We intend this to be a two-part series. An interview with some of the folks behind the anarchist humanitarian project for Ukraine, Operation Solidarity, is forthcoming in the next week or so. Links: The Black Head...
Sarah Skwire on What We Can Learn from Literature 01.03.2022 1:14:41
In this month's episode, Alex McHugh interviews Sarah Skwire, Senior Fellow and Director of Communications at Liberty Fund about the importance of studying literature and language, and why social scientists should pay attention to works of fiction and literary history. Sarah's work can be found most often in the following places: The "Reading Room" on OLL: oll.libertyfund.org/reading_room Adam Sm...
Meet the Hosts: Cory Massimino & Alex McHugh 02.02.2022 1:53:10
This year, C4SS Fellow Cory Massimino joins Alex McHugh as a host for Mutual Exchange Radio. For this first episode of the season, we sat down together to talk about intellectual influences, the upcoming podcast season, and C4SS's forthcoming Mutual Exchange Symposium on Egoism and Anarchism. See the Mutual Exchange Symposium starting 2/2/2022 at: https://c4ss.org/content/category/mutual-exchange
Nathan Goodman on Border Militarization and Foreign Policy 31.12.2021 1:45:00
In our final episode for the year, Alex McHugh interviews a return guest to the show Nathan Goodman. We focus on Nathan's recent paper, published with Chris Coyne, "U.S. Border Militarization and Foreign Policy: A Symbiotic Relationship" - https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3961152 Nathan is a Postdoctoral Fellow in the Department of Economics at New York University, affiliated wi...
Gary Chartier & Charles Johnson on "Markets Not Capitalism" 10 Years On 31.10.2021 1:09:37
For the 10-year anniversary of what many would consider our foundational book, C4SS Mutual Exchange Coordinator Cory Massimino interviewed Markets Not Capitalism editors Charles Johnson and Gary Chartier. They discuss the legacy and impact of MNC ten years on! If you've not read it, you can find the free .pdf and audiobook at: c4ss.org/content/12802
Gus diZerega on Democracy as a Spontaneous Order 25.09.2021 1:54:22
In this episode of MER, Alex McHugh interview Gus diZerega on his work around democracy as a spontaneous order. Gus is a retired professor with a Ph. D in Political Science from the University of California, Berkeley. He is now an independent scholar and has been involved in an ongoing back and forth on libertarianism with our own Roderick Long. Read more about Gus diZerega at www.dizerega.com . R...
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