C4SS
Mutual Exchange Radio
The Center for a Stateless Society (C4SS.org) is an anarchist think-tank and media center. Its mission is to explain and defend the idea of vibrant social cooperation without aggression, oppression, or centralized authority. In particular, it seeks to enlarge public understanding and transform public perceptions of anarchism, while reshaping academic and movement debate, through the production and distribution of market anarchist media content, both scholarly and popular. It is also the home of Mutual Exchange Radio, a new podcast on anarchist thought, hosted by Zachary Woodman. The show bring...
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May 16, 2026
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Evan Pierce on Universal Ecological Infrastructure 05.09.2021 1:17:09
We're back! A little late, but hopefully worth it, here's our "August" episode of Mutual Exchange Radio. In this episode Alex McHugh stands in for host Zachary Woodman to interview C4SS editing coordinator Evan Pierce. Evan is a gardener, builder, and anarchist working on generating and regenerating universal ecological infrastructure. They're into the cross-pollination of ideas and intersections...
The Outgroup: Industry Baby, Climate Change, & The Space Race 09.08.2021 1:19:05
Here's something a little different! We've released this episode of The Outgroup publicly both as a way to announce our new Patreon levels and as a sort of apology for the recent gap in MER episodes. Thanks for your patience while we sorted things out! Mutual Exchange Radio will be back a the end of this month. In the meantime, we hope you enjoy this episode of The Outgroup , our roundtable curre...
Jesse Spafford on the Libertarian Case Against Property Rights 28.05.2021 2:09:06
In this episode of Mutual Exchange Radio , host Zachary Woodman interviews Jesse Spafford. Jesse is a Research Fellow at Trinity College Dublin working on the project REAL - Rights and Egalitarianism . His research is focused on social and political philosophy with particular attention paid to debates between libertarians, socialists, and anarchists over the moral status of the market and the stat...
Dispatches from Russia (C4SS Around the World) 20.04.2021 55:28
In this special edition of Mutual Exchange Radio, Alex McHugh interviews Ilya, a Russian social anarchist and anti-fascist . Ilya has written for C4SS a couple of times as well as translating some English articles into Russian. In this interview, part of our "Around the World" mini-series with C4SS contributors across the world , we dig into the current muted nature of Russian political activism,...
Shikha Dalmia on Immigration and Populism 17.03.2021 1:05:43
In this episode of Mutual Exchange Radio , host Zachary Woodman interviews libertarian commentator Shikha Dalmia. Shikha is a former policy analyst for the Reason Foundation and has contributed to publications including Bloomberg View, the Washington Examiner , Reason magazine, The Wall Street Journal , and USA Today. In this interview, we discuss two timely issues in American politics: immigra...
No Bosses, No Landlords, No Bureaucrats! 15.01.2021 51:16
We're excited to share this pilot episode of our new show with Joel Williamson, The Enragés . Joining Mutual Exchange Radio on the C4SS podcast roster this year, The Enragés will take a deep dive into the recent works of C4SS writers and scholars on the site. You can find the new show in all the same places as Mutual Exchange Radio, including Spotify , iTunes , Stitcher, YouTube , and on our Patre...
Bonus Episode: Camilo Gomez on Peru's Presidential Crisis 13.01.2021 1:05:08
Posted first on Patreon , this is a special Season 2 bonus episode with a new focus we're trying out: C4SS around the world . Our network is a truly global one and if this is content y'all enjoy, I'd like to do a short series spotlighting some of the brilliant people we're connected to outside of the U.S. For this first episode, I interview C4SS contributor Camilo Gomez on an entirely different k...
Aurora Apolito and William Gillis on Decentralization and Economic Coordination, Part II 21.12.2020 1:04:44
This episode is Part II of a two-part interview with Aurora Apolito and William Gillis, two of the lead contributors to our summer symposium on Decentralization and Economic Coordination . Listen to Part I here , or on Spotify, iTunes, and Stitcher. Aurora Apolito is a mathematician and theoretical physicist. She studied physics in Italy and mathematics in Chicago, and later worked for various sci...
Aurora Apolito and William Gillis on Decentralization and Economic Coordination, Part I 07.12.2020 54:04
This episode is Part I of a two-part interview with Aurora Apolito and William Gillis, two of the lead contributors to our summer symposium on Decentralization and Economic Coordination . Part II will be released on December 21st, although patrons can access that here now . Aurora Apolito is a mathematician and theoretical physicist. She studied physics in Italy and mathematics in Chicago, and la...
Aria DiMezzo: Satanic Trans Anarchist for Sheriff 22.10.2020 53:56
Aria DiMezzo is a candidate running for Sheriff in Cheshire County, New Hampshire as a republican. Why have a Republican sheriff candidate on an anarchist podcast, you ask? Well, Aria is not what you'd expect from a GOP cop. She has had many encounters with police in her life, and very few have been positive. She is high priestess of the Reformed Satanic Church, a trans woman, and an anarchist. An...
Emmi Bevensee on Decentralization and Economic Coordination 08.09.2020 1:07:10
Joining us today is Emmi Bevensee . Emmi is a senior fellow at the Center for a Stateless Society and currently organizing the Mutual Exchange Symposium on Decentralization and Economic Coordination. They identify as a solarpunk mutualist and research disinformation and fascism on the internet as a Mozilla Open Web fellow and data scientist. In this discussion, we discuss Emmi's lead essay in C4SS...
Akiva Malamet on Nationalism and Identity Formation 29.06.2020 1:14:27
Joining us today is Akiva Malamet. Akiva is completing his BA in Government at the Interdisciplinary Center Herzliya (IDC) in Israel. He is an incoming MA student in Philosophy and a member of the interdisciplinary program in Political and Legal Thought (PLT) at Queen's University, Kingston, and Frédéric Bastiat Fellow in political economy and public policy with the Mercatus Center at George Maso...
Vermin Supreme on Ponynomics 05.05.2020 58:17
Joining me today is Vermin Supreme. You might know Vermin as the satirical presidential candidate from the last few election cycles who ran on a platform of free ponies and mandatory tooth brushing, or you might just know him as that guy with a boot on his head. But this year, he's running a slightly different campaign for the Libertarian Party Presidential Nomination. Rather than his usual dog an...
Jason Lee Byas on Methodological Anarchism 05.05.2020 2:01:55
Joining me today is Jason Lee Byas. Jason is a fellow at the Center for a Stateless Society. He is also a PhD student in Philosophy at the University of Michigan. His academic work focuses on punishment (and its alternatives), rights theory, and justice beyond the state. He approaches that work from within the liberal, libertarian, and anarchist traditions -- all of which broadly construed. Today,...
Joel Williamson on Pragmatic Anarchism 07.03.2020 1:08:07
Joining me today is Joel Williamson of Non-Serviam media. Joel is an individualist anarchist from Texas who has been involved in different activist projects over the years. These projects range from fundraising to support political prisoners such as Ross Ulbricht, organizing "counter economic farmers markets, and engaging in varied direct action efforts. His activism has most recently been focused...
Roderick Long on Class Theory 13.02.2020 1:18:19
Joining me today is Roderick Long. If you spend much time looking at C4SS' work or any work in the market anarchist tradition in the last twenty years, you have likely come across Roderick's work and surely something inspired by or responding to it. Dr. Long is a professor of philosophy at Auburn University, president of the Molinari Institute and Molinari Society, editor of The Industrial Radical...
Anthony Di Franco on Counter Culture Labs 08.01.2020 45:25
Joining me today is Anthony Di Franco. Anthony works at the intersections of complex adaptive systems and computing and focuses on developing convivial technologies, decentralizing infrastructure, and increasing the agency of individuals and communities. He is a co-founder and board member of Counter Culture Labs, a group of biohackers in Oakland, where he founded the Open Insulin project, an effo...
Jahed Momand on Epistemological Anarchism 11.10.2019 1:09:12
This month, we bring you a special episode from the Please Try This at Home transhumanism conference. In this episode, podcast producer Alex McHugh interviews Jahed Momand on autonomous medicine. Jahed is a PNW-based anarchist interested in epistemological anarchism and radical approaches to science. He writes long-form essays and a newsletter at againstutopia.com . In the episode, we get into the...
Nathan Goodman on the Provision of Public Goods and Welfare in a Stateless Society 06.09.2019 1:29:18
Today, Nathan Goodman is joining Mutual Exchange Radio to discuss the provision of public goods and welfare in a stateless society. Nathan is a PhD student in economics at George Mason University. Previously, he was the Lysander Spooner Research Scholar in Abolitionist Studies at the Center for a Stateless Society (C4SS). His research interests include defense and peace economics, Austrian economi...
William Gillis on Positive and Negative Liberty 30.07.2019 1:46:00
Welcome to Mutual Exchange Radio, a project of the Center for a Stateless Society. Joining me today is Will Gillis. Will is the director of the Center and is a second generation anarchist who's worked as an activist in countless projects since getting involved in the lead-up to N30. He studies physics and writes regularly on the egalitarian potential of markets. His writing can be found on his web...
Kelly Wright on Grand Juries and How the State Attempts to Control Information 03.07.2019 47:49
Today we are joined by Kelly Wright. Kelly has written for the Center on topics ranging from the history of anarchist thought, transgender liberation, and police militarization. Kelly also served as Chelsea Manning's Campaign Manager for her run for U.S. Senate in the Democratic Primary in Maryland in 2018 and is a member of Chelsea's support committee providing material support for Chelsea as she...
Fabio Rojas on Answering Common Objection to Open Borders 30.05.2019 1:06:24
My guest today is Fabio Rojas, a professor of sociology at Indiana University. Dr. Rojas is an expert who works on the sociology of political movements and social theory. He is the author of several books, including Theory for the Working Sociologist, Party in the Street: The Antiwar Movement and the Democratic Party after 9/11 and From Black Power to Black Studies: How a Radical Social Movement B...
Lyn Ulbricht on Ross Ulbricht and The Silk Road 30.04.2019 51:59
Welcome to this episode of Mutual Exchange Radio, a project of the Center for a Stateless Society. Today's guest is Lyn Ulbricht, the mother of Ross Ulbricht. Ross Ulbricht was the founder of Silk Road, a website run as a market that valued the privacy and security of its patrons highly. Because of its emphasis on privacy, it quickly became famous for hosting exchanges of a clandestine nature, suc...
Maggie McNeill on Sex Work 26.03.2019 1:06:37
Welcome to Mutual Exchange radio, a project of the Center for a Stateless Society. Today's guest is Maggie McNeil, an author, journalist, and blogger who is an expert on sex work and a sex worker herself. Maggie has written a series of short stories on sex work, Ladies of the Night, runs her own blog, The Honest Courtesan , and has had her writings featured in outlets such as The Washington Post...
Kevin Carson on Libertarian Municipalism 27.02.2019 47:21
Welcome to Mutual Exchange Radio, a project of the Center for a Stateless Society. Today's guest is Kevin Carson, a senior fellow of the Center for a Stateless Society who holds the Center's Karl Hess Chair in Social Theory. He has written books such as Studies in Mutualist Political Economy , Organization Theory: A Libertarian Perspective , and The Homebrew Industrial Revolution: A Low-Ove...
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